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William Treseder
11-05-22, 17:34
Jamie Vardy and Wayne Rooney, will surely be cringing about this court case.
tforturton
11-05-22, 17:51
Jamie Vardy and Wayne Rooney, will surely be cringing about this court case.
I should imagine that, like everyone else, they don't give a f*ck....
dembethewarrior
11-05-22, 17:56
You'd wonder how anyone on here cares enough to mention it as well, to be fair.
William Treseder
11-05-22, 18:38
You'd wonder how anyone on here cares enough to mention it as well, to be fair.
Sorry boss. Just caught it on the news whilst eating my tea.
You seem to have cared enough to read the thread and reply?
Hungry Blue
11-05-22, 18:43
What about poor Pete's "chipolata"?
dembethewarrior
11-05-22, 18:51
Sorry boss. Just caught it on the news whilst eating my tea.
You seem to have cared enough to read the thread and reply?
I'm not going tit for tat. My reply was on the back of your commenting on it being cringeworthy.
It is and it's not the type of thing I ever expected being discussed on here, if it is it is, if it gets 10 pages of in depth discussion, great.
I just didn't think anyone on here would care hence my reply.
Taunton Blue Genie
11-05-22, 18:59
Libel cases are interesting and, as I understand it, usually the domain of the wealthy and where the 'winners' are not able to recover their full costs (which are often astronomical) from the opposition. A media lawyer has estimated that the case will cost each party around £1m and the winner will be re-imbursed around 70% of their costs only and a mere £15K-£40K in damages - leaving a deficit of around £300K. The loser will pay hugely, of course.
During some trials such as this, and indeed the Heard v Depp trial, information about poor behaviour and serious character defects on both sides can be exposed and neither party may come out the other end with much credit.
It seems a extremely expensive poker game where only the lawyers really win.
You'd wonder how anyone on here cares enough to mention it as well, to be fair.
Agree. The OP is not even worth the time replying about.
SunderlandBluebird
12-05-22, 12:14
Libel cases are interesting and, as I understand it, usually the domain of the wealthy and where the 'winners' are not able to recover their full costs (which are often astronomical) from the opposition. A media lawyer has estimated that the case will cost each party around £1m and the winner will be re-imbursed around 70% of their costs only and a mere £15K-£40K in damages - leaving a deficit of around £300K. The loser will pay hugely, of course.
During some trials such as this, and indeed the Heard v Depp trial, information about poor behaviour and serious character defects on both sides can be exposed and neither party may come out the other end with much credit.
It seems a extremely expensive poker game where only the lawyers really win.
I doubt the money makes a big difference to either but the ego in allowing it to get to court from Vardy's side is mental. She will probably "legally" win the case that it can't be proven it was her that leaked the specific story as a couple of people had access to her account, but she has been exposed via whatsapp convos on trying to sell numerous stories on Drinkwater, Mahrez etc to a rag like the sun for relative peanuts and comes across a c*nt, baffling all round!
https://twitter.com/tompeck/status/1524687491336478720?t=4MnaH2CFwt9dKz0hj0muNA&s=19
North Cardiff Blue
12-05-22, 13:30
What about poor Pete's "chipolata"?
Poor old Pete, he's finished on the pulling front, although I doubt Jordan would have hung around for as long if that was true?
She'd have been on to the next one before he'd finished the frst line of mysterious girl!
dembethewarrior
12-05-22, 13:45
Poor old Pete, he's finished on the pulling front, although I doubt Jordan would have hung around for as long if that was true?
She'd have been on to the next one before he'd finished the frst line of mysterious girl!
Some of these celeb couples are a but more complicated, perhaps she could put up with the tiny manhood for the extra fame it brought them being a couple?
William Treseder
12-05-22, 19:17
Agree. The OP is not even worth the time replying about.
That’s being William Tresederist. Reported 😂
William Treseder
12-05-22, 19:20
Agree. The OP is not even worth the time replying about.
Yet Maddonas clunge is being discussed on another thread 😂
dembethewarrior
12-05-22, 19:33
That’s being William Tresederist. Reported 😂
Sense of humour detected. Reported.
chrisp_1927
13-05-22, 08:10
Jamie Vardy needs to run away as fast as he can. That bitch is a narcissistic sociopath.
Michael Morris
13-05-22, 08:51
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/wagatha-christie-trial-vardy-coleen-rooney-b2077656.html
‘It was me’: The not-so-sudden plot twist at the Wagatha Christie trial
Rebekah Vardy must have seen the moment coming over the horizon like a train whose tracks she has been standing on for the last three months, but has declined to get out of its way
“It was me.” They’re three “Kind-Of-A-Big-Deal” words in affairs of this nature. In crime and courtroom dramas real or fictitious, the “it was me” moment tends to be where the plot starts to resolve itself.
Yet Rebekah Vardy, facing down a second full day of cross examination at the Royal Courts of Justice, must have known that the “it was me” moment would be coming since at least February. And what makes matters all the more bizarre is that she is not the defendant. This is a libel action she has brought herself.
She is suing Coleen Rooney for daring to suggest it was her who had leaked various stories about Rooney to The Sun newspaper (stories which Rooney made up purely to ensnare the perpetrator, earning the now unshakeable moniker “Wagatha Christie”).
Vardy must have seen the moment coming over the horizon like a train whose tracks she has been standing on for the last three months, but has declined to get out of its way.
It was shortly before lunch when it arrived, when Vardy had done seven-and-a-half hours of interrogation, all of which involves her being able to credibly claim that she would never collude with her agent to sell stories to The Sun. It was read out to her, by Rooney’s barrister. Three simple words. “It was me.”
To be clear, it was not Vardy who said “it was me”. It was her agent, Caroline Watt. Though that fact scarcely makes matters less tricky for her.
Watt’s own phone sadly went missing in the early stages of this case, when it dropped off the side of a boat and into the North Sea. Watt herself has also now sadly gone missing, in the sense that she has been deemed too unwell to give evidence in this trial.
(At one point, it was put to Vardy that it was somewhat helpful that crucial messages on Watt’s phone were now in “Davy Jones’s locker”. She turned to the judge to ask: “Who is Davy Jones? I don’t know who that is.” The judge’s reply, that it was “figurative”, did not appear to fully clear up the mystery.)
Anyway. Watt had said that “it was me” to make clear that Rooney was wrong to think that someone she “trusted” was leaking stories about her to the press. Wrong because it hadn’t been Vardy, it was merely her agent.
It is on this distinction that Vardy’s defence depends (though yet again we must make clear that she is not the defendant, this madness was all her idea). That Watt, who had access to Vardy’s social media accounts – or, if not hers, then by some process of digital alchemy – was giving stories gleaned from Rooney’s private instagram to journalists at The Sun newspaper. And that Vardy had nothing to do with it.
So it is more than a little bit inconvenient that Vardy has had to spend 10 full excruciating hours in a witness box at the Royal Courts of Justice, where a never-ending tranche of WhatsApp messages have been read out to her, all of them spelling out in grand detail the degree to which her and Watt appear to have worked together to provide stories to The Sun.
When Rooney dropped her bombshell tweet nearly three years ago, she was immediately heralded as a private investigator beyond compare. She had put entirely fake stories on her Instagram, ensured that only one account could see them (Vardy’s account), then watched as these stories made their way into The Sun.
But this jawdropper has been at least matched, if not surpassed, by the equally jawdropping incident, earlier in this case, where large numbers of WhatsApps shared between Vardy and Watt were accidentally shared with Rooney’s legal team.
The consequences of that accidental leak have been quite spectacular. It has led to such incidents as Vardy, sitting stony faced in the witness stand, claiming that an earlier sworn statement provided to the court wasn’t deliberately untrue, but was only inaccurate because she hadn’t read the WhatsApp messages in question. Which may be true. Maybe she hadn’t read them. But she did write them.
To seek to establish the degree of Vardy’s contact with the newspapers, the court heard about an incident in a restaurant at the World Cup in Russia in 2018. Vardy denies that she persuaded a large group of England Wags to gather outside a restaurant for a photograph, where she had allegedy arranged for them to encounter a photographer who was meant to be hiding in the bushes, but who hadn’t been kept up to date on a last minute change of plan, so was instead just standing there with his rather large camera out, much to the disgust of the rest of her party.
Vardy denies this caused her to “panic”, but she also declined why, if she was not panicking about it, she was messaging her agent, Watt again, with the word, “f***!”
It is also crucial to Rooney’s case that she establish that Vardy had a long and prosperous relationship with The Sun, and with its showbiz reporter Andy Halls. And it is just as crucial to Vardy’s case that she demonstrate that no such relationship existed.
And this is a case she continued to make, even while being shown, for example, an Instagram photograph of herself, eating a kebab in The Sun’s hospitality area at The National Television Awards, for which she personally thanks Halls in the accompanying caption, at the same time as, the court heard, not knowing whether or not he was even there.
Her case rests on convincing a judge that she would never message Halls from The Sun with stories about other people. And her WhatsApps to her agent include such phrases as “messaged Halls”.
There’s also the unfortunate fact that, back in 2019, when she replied to Rooney, claiming that lots of people had access to her account and it could have been any of them, she has inadvertently let us see behind the magician’s curtain, at WhatsApp messages, yet again with Watt, where the reply gets workshopped out, not to mention a defence, suggested by Watt, in which they could claim that she left the company and somebody else got hold of her laptop. This line, Watt explains, should only be used if all gets “undeniably obvious” that it was her.
It is important to remember that as this is merely a civil libel trial, the judge will have to decide whether Vardy was involved in the selling of these stories to The Sun only on the “balance of probabilities” as opposed to “beyond reasonable doubt.” That it is, in other words, more likely than not that she was involved.
There is still a chance that Vardy could win. The judge may yet decide that the evidence against her is not overwhelming enough. At that point, Vardy could decide to bring damages. It will then be up to the judge to decide quite how much her reputation has been harmed by the suggestion she would leak stories to the press. It is, after all, a rather mean and tactless thing to do. And while they may decide it’s not certain she leaked this one, the intricate details of other such instances have been laid bare, and they are exceptionally ugly.
One reaches for such a metaphor with great reluctance, but if you were to wrongly accuse Harold Shipman of killing your grandma, he might have a case for libel, but it would not have been altogether easy for him to suggest that your outrageous suggestion had left his reputation in tatters.
The case continues.
Jamie Vardy needs to run away as fast as he can. That bitch is a narcissistic sociopath.
he must be very pissed off that some of his hard earned money is being pissed up the wall on this "defamation" case which, even if she wins seems to be making her lookn a lot worse than the original defamation in the first place.
What on earth were both the individuals concerned thinking?
This was only going to get very messy and extremely expensive.
I’m no advocate for violence but surely this could have been sorted via handbags ( quite literally, probably) in the car park of some WAG hotel.
Waiting for Peter Andre to start legal actions over todgergate next!
What on earth were both the individuals concerned thinking?
This was only going to get very messy and extremely expensive.
I’m no advocate for violence but surely this could have been sorted via handbags ( quite literally, probably) in the car park of some WAG hotel.
Waiting for Peter Andre to start legal actions over todgergate next!
Strongly encouraged by their respective lawyers, no doubt.
OurManFlint II
13-05-22, 09:52
he must be very pissed off that some of his hard earned money is being pissed up the wall on this "defamation" case which, even if she wins seems to be making her lookn a lot worse than the original defamation in the first place.
Nice assumption that she is a kept women, i understand she is very rich in her own right as a model and through advertising, now back in the kitchen and look pretty.
Nice assumption that she is a kept women, i understand she is very rich in her own right as a model and through advertising, now back in the kitchen and look pretty.
fair point, but even if it was her own money she's used to bring this case I'd be pissed off if my partner spent a fortune to make herself look really bad
AfricanBluebird
13-05-22, 10:33
I have tried to avoid it because I have no interest in celebrities.
However, almost impossible to avoid at the moment and I am just left empty reading some of the commentary.
What an absolute farce of a case... what entitlement (by both women) who seem to value their celebrity status and all the arrogance and nonsense that comes with it. Neither seem to be nice people or at all bright.
I have tried to avoid it because I have no interest in celebrities.
However, almost impossible to avoid at the moment and I am just left empty reading some of the commentary.
What an absolute farce of a case... what entitlement (by both women) who seem to value their celebrity status and all the arrogance and nonsense that comes with it. Neither seem to be nice people or at all bright.
Which is why it's ok to find it absolutely hilarious.
Feel bad for Peter Andre though.
AfricanBluebird
13-05-22, 10:46
Which is why it's ok to find it absolutely hilarious.
Feel bad for Peter Andre though.
I did laugh at the revelations about poor Peter Andre.
dembethewarrior
13-05-22, 10:52
This thread aside I've found it easy to ignore ore.
It's easy to skip over the long posts in this thread with any info in as well and just read the little poster sub plots..
This thread aside I've found it easy to ignore ore.
It's easy to skip over the long posts in this thread with any info in as well and just read the little poster sub plots..
Yeah, I really don't understand how it would be difficult to avoid the goings on of this circus.
fair point, but even if it was her own money she's used to bring this case I'd be pissed off if my partner spent a fortune to make herself look really bad
Apparently she is worth £3m which will be barely enough to pay for her legal fees.
the other bob wilson
13-05-22, 19:40
Not remotely interested in this except for a desire to know why Mrs Vardy has an agent.
cyril evans awaydays
13-05-22, 19:45
Not remotely interested in this except for a desire to know why Mrs Vardy has an agent.
Is it Willie McKay?
dembethewarrior
13-05-22, 21:08
Yeah, I really don't understand how it would be difficult to avoid the goings on of this circus.
Piece of piss
splott parker
13-05-22, 21:18
Anyone just see Have I Got News For You. Bit of a play on the Wagatha Christie theme suggesting Coleen dresses up as Miss Marple for him.:hehe:
life on mars
14-05-22, 00:32
Jamie Vardy and Wayne Rooney, will surely be cringing about this court case.
My thoughts exactly , someone is going to lose 3 million
Lither_1927
14-05-22, 00:52
My thoughts exactly , someone is going to lose 3 million
All this media coverage of the Vardy malarkey. Meanwhile J Ghislane Maxwell is in court over a global peadophile ring, blackmailing elites and the media silence is deafening. Wakey wakey
Lither_1927
14-05-22, 00:54
Not remotely interested in this except for a desire to know why Mrs Vardy has an agent.
Apparently she's a real play maker up the middle
All this media coverage of the Vardy malarkey. Meanwhile J Ghislane Maxwell is in court over a global peadophile ring, blackmailing elites and the media silence is deafening. Wakey wakey
The media silence is deafening? What are you talking about?
She's not in court any more. The trial finished at the end of 2021. She's awaiting sentencing at the end of June.
Lither_1927
14-05-22, 02:22
The media silence is deafening? What are you talking about?
She's not in court any more. The trial finished at the end of 2021. She's awaiting sentencing at the end of June.
What am i talking about? I'm talking about blanket coverage of WAG tittle tattle yet the Maxwell trial wash quickly brushed aside, even though it's a much bigger story. I follow news daily, even though it's usually crap. The fact i didn't know much about the trail is not a "win" for you. You actually highlighted the point i was making, so cut the "i know more than you" nonsense
Lither_1927
14-05-22, 02:49
Apparently she is worth £3m which will be barely enough to pay for her legal fees.
From what i heard on radio4, the trail will cost 1 million, not sure if that is 1 million each or combined. Still a lot of money, especially for R Vardy who isn't coming out of this with much credit.
What am i talking about? I'm talking about blanket coverage of WAG tittle tattle yet the Maxwell trial wash quickly brushed aside, even though it's a much bigger story. I follow news daily, even though it's usually crap. The fact i didn't know much about the trail is not a "win" for you. You actually highlighted the point i was making, so cut the "i know more than you" nonsense
I'm sure everyone on here thinks the Wagatha trial is ridiculous.
But Maxwell is a bad example for "wakey wakey sheeple" because it was massive news when the trial was on.
Tito Fuente
14-05-22, 10:04
I'm sure everyone on here thinks the Wagatha trial is ridiculous.
But Maxwell is a bad example for "wakey wakey sheeple" because it was massive news when the trial was on.
I guess that's why they call it the news.
chrisp_1927
14-05-22, 10:16
The trial is of course ridiculous. But I don't understand the issue with it being talked about. It's an insight into the way that courts and the legal system work, which is always interesting. The way that libel trials have been misused is also very relevant at the moment , considering that many legal firms are under the spotlight for shielding Russian Oligarchs etc.
The trial is of course ridiculous. But I don't understand the issue with it being talked about. It's an insight into the way that courts and the legal system work, which is always interesting. The way that libel trials have been misused is also very relevant at the moment , considering that many legal firms are under the spotlight for shielding Russian Oligarchs etc.
Yeah true, and perhaps good for the younger generation to learn that neither side really wins with unnecessary litigation. It looks glamorous in legal dramas but that's not the reality.
I’d ignored this until now but I’m glad I read this thread and the article because it’s very entertaining, what an absolute idiot Vardy is
I’d ignored this until now but I’m glad I read this thread and the article because it’s very entertaining, what an absolute idiot Vardy is
Yeah but lets be honest, it is very unlikely he married her for her membership of Mensa or her degree.
now lte's think, what might he have married her for? :tumbleweed:
StraightOuttaCanton
15-05-22, 13:35
I’d ignored this until now but I’m glad I read this thread and the article because it’s very entertaining, what an absolute idiot Vardy is
If you haven’t clicked on the Tom Peck twitter feed you should. Very funny
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