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Monster munch
05-07-22, 17:19
Sunak and Javid quit. What the hell is actually going on.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62048657
Sunak and Javid quit. What the hell is actually going on.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62048657
The party's over.
splott parker
05-07-22, 17:23
It’s been in chaos for ages
The worst Government in UK history.
ninian opinian
05-07-22, 17:23
This should be on the Politics Board so at least add something football related.
I’ll start, “We can see you sneaking out” :hehe:
chrisp_1927
05-07-22, 17:26
Surely even johnson has to realise the game is up now !
19bluebirds27
05-07-22, 17:27
Cheeri o cheeri o cheeri o
SLUDGE FACTORY
05-07-22, 17:32
Slimey creeps the Tories
They will all be after his job if he resigns , as he should
Trouble is the opposition is split between starmer who is utterly hopeless and the liberals
The country is crying out for someone other than the blue meanies but looking at the opinion polls starmer et al are hardly pulling up trees
One of the wet lot will stand and the country will say oh OK go on then .....
It's thoroughly depressing
the other bob wilson
05-07-22, 17:37
Slimey creeps the Tories
They will all be after his job if he resigns , as he should
Trouble is the opposition is split between starmer who is utterly hopeless and the liberals
The country is crying out for someone other than the blue meanies but looking at the opinion polls starmer et al are hardly pulling up trees
One of the wet lot will stand and the country will say oh OK go on then .....
It's thoroughly depressing
I’m just glad some of the Cabinet are finally locating their backbone - I want the Tories out as much as anyone, but I want this disgrace of a PM out more.
William Treseder
05-07-22, 17:38
Johnson and his mob have stumbled from one disaster to another, and yet they would still probably win a general election tomorrow. The opposition is that bad!!
J R Hartley
05-07-22, 17:38
Slimey creeps the Tories
They will all be after his job if he resigns , as he should
Trouble is the opposition is split between starmer who is utterly hopeless and the liberals
The country is crying out for someone other than the blue meanies but looking at the opinion polls starmer et al are hardly pulling up trees
One of the wet lot will stand and the country will say oh OK go on then .....
It's thoroughly depressing
For once I agree with every word. I’m off for a lie down.
The Lone Gunman
05-07-22, 17:41
Johnson and his mob have stumbled from one disaster to another, and yet they would still probably win a general election tomorrow. The opposition is that bad!!
Or the public is that stupid.
SLUDGE FACTORY
05-07-22, 17:42
Johnson and his mob have stumbled from one disaster to another, and yet they would still probably win a general election tomorrow. The opposition is that bad!!
Absolutely hopeless opposition
We are safe the likes of Raab Patel Rees Mogg and Nadine Dorries are backing the bufoon.
What a state we are in.
But but but Jeremy Corbyn and Diane Abbott. Well weve got these clowns.
SLUDGE FACTORY
05-07-22, 17:43
For once I agree with every word. I’m off for a lie down.
OK, see you later , leave the light on
Or the public is that stupid.
Thats the worry.
SLUDGE FACTORY
05-07-22, 17:45
We are safe the likes of Raab Patel Rees Mogg and Nadine Dorries are backing the bufoon.
What a state we are in.
But but but Jeremy Corbyn and Diane Abbott. Well weve got these clowns.
If Javed or Sunak stand , either will beat starmer . They are bland but people will think they are a safe pair of hands
Starmer should be teaching at some university
He's utterly hopeless as are his team
SLUDGE FACTORY
05-07-22, 17:46
Thats the worry.
The joy of government is that the people are stupid
Adolf Hitler
William Treseder
05-07-22, 17:50
Or the public is that stupid.
Probably a combination of both. Worrying times.
If Javed or Sunak stand , either will beat starmer . They are bland but people will think they are a safe pair of hands
Starmer should be teaching at some university
He's utterly hopeless as are his team
Not convinced. Virtually the whole Tory front bench are feckin useless and a complete liability and waste of space. Both of these two backed the bufoon up until this point.
It wouldnt suprise me to see Sunak quit politics.
Mr Soul '68
05-07-22, 17:53
If Javed or Sunak stand , either will beat starmer . They are bland but people will think they are a safe pair of hands
Starmer should be teaching at some university
He's utterly hopeless as are his team
Teaching at some university? I wouldn't trust the malcontent to teach the green cross code to ten year olds!
William Treseder
05-07-22, 17:55
The Jocks might be onto something baling out soon. We’ll be left abandoned on a sinking ship.
chrisp_1927
05-07-22, 17:55
I wonder if Theresa May fancies another go. Lots of people may be wondering why they followed johnson and stitched her up. Serious lack of integrity in that cabinet, needs a bloody good clear out
The joy of government is that the people are stupid
Adolf Hitler
How many times.... it's 'Lither'!
tforturton
05-07-22, 17:58
I'm not a fan personally, but I reckon a bet on Angela Rayner as PM after the next election wouldn't be far out....
I hate how weve ended up with such an awful and untrustworthy government, but it wouldn't surprise me if Jeremy Hunt has already rung Rishi and Sajid and promised them their jobs back if they offer him their support.
Anyone with half a brain could see how corrupt and incompetent this government would be if they were voted in. If you voted for this you should be beyond ashamed of yourself.
WJ99mobile
05-07-22, 18:42
I noticed the contempt for Starmer after he said he wouldn’t rejoin the EU
Labour supporters can’t stand Kier and Tories can’t stand Boris and neither would vote for the other party
The libs are irrelevant and the rest of the parties will always be fringe.
British politics at its worse for some time
I noticed the contempt for Starmer after he said he wouldn’t rejoin the EU
Labour supporters can’t stand Kier and Tories can’t stand Boris and neither would vote for the other party
The libs are irrelevant and the rest of the parties will always be fringe.
British politics at its worse for some time
There are plenty of Labour supporters and members who wanted out of the EU.
How many times.... it's 'Lither'!
:hehe:
We are safe the likes of Raab Patel Rees Mogg and Nadine Dorries are backing the bufoon.
What a state we are in.
But but but Jeremy Corbyn and Diane Abbott. Well weve got these clowns.
Imagine Rees Mogg as PM :tumbleweed:
It would be nice if you lot actually got to vote for your government...what a dingbat country . Only second after Trumptonville
Imagine Rees Mogg as PM :tumbleweed:
Or Raab , Patel , Truss , Coffey , Dorries , Schapps .
Slimey creeps the Tories
They will all be after his job if he resigns , as he should
Trouble is the opposition is split between starmer who is utterly hopeless and the liberals
The country is crying out for someone other than the blue meanies but looking at the opinion polls starmer et al are hardly pulling up trees
One of the wet lot will stand and the country will say oh OK go on then .....
It's thoroughly depressing
Need more than a two party state…can’t stand either of em
Is the title of this thread based on today or a few years old?
I'm no Boris supporter, or even a tory supporter, but something stinks about the way all these leaks and misdemeanors keep coming along.
It seems there's a concerted plan to oust BoJo, if he doesn't go now, something else will come out next week.
Sleeze getting rid of sleeze?
Elwood Blues
05-07-22, 19:37
Nadim Zahawi has just gone into Downing Street
Elwood Blues
05-07-22, 19:47
Steve Barclay is the new health secretary.
I suspect Zahawi will either become chancellor or resign
Seems like they were looking for an excuse to jump ship. If you quit the cabinet you should leave the party. Good riddance to them.
Ex Tory MP Ann Soubry wants an election and wants Starmer as PM.
The Lone Gunman
05-07-22, 19:55
I'm no Boris supporter, or even a tory supporter, but something stinks about the way all these leaks and misdemeanors keep coming along.
What stinks is this government. From top to bottom. It’s no more complicated than that.
Seems like they were looking for an excuse to jump ship. If you quit the cabinet you should leave the party. Good riddance to them.
Looking for an excuse.😂😂
Theres been enough of them.
I’m just glad some of the Cabinet are finally locating their backbone - I want the Tories out as much as anyone, but I want this disgrace of a PM out more.
nothing to do with backbone, they're just looking out for themselves
nothing to do with backbone, they're just looking out for themselves
Absolutely true, without Bojo they'd be nowhere near any top job. They're living the dream.
Seems like they were looking for an excuse to jump ship. If you quit the cabinet you should leave the party. Good riddance to them.
I doubt there is any principle involved.
They stayed and enabled Johnson for months and years whilst he behaved in exactly the same way.
It is down to political calculation. Pincher and the latest round of lies is just the excuse. And the by election results which spooked all wings of their party.
Three quarters of Tory backbenchers voted against Johnson in the recent ballot. They are about to win total control of the 1922 Committee and change the rules so the confidence vote can be re-run. Johnson will lose and his loyalists will go down with him.
The Tories are calculating their best chance of winning the next election or limiting the damage. Enough of them now think that means changing the leader and hoping the public have short memories.
Their problem is there is no obvious alternative. As a non-Tory watching their implosion will be a small compensation for the continuing disaster of this incompetent, lying, corrupt government. The smallest of silver linings!
I doubt there is any principle involved.
They stayed and enabled Johnson for months and years whilst he behaved in exactly the same way.
It is down to political calculation. Pincher and the latest round of lies is just the excuse. And the by election results which spooked all wings of their party.
Three quarters of Tory backbenchers voted against Johnson in the recent ballot. They are about to win total control of the 1922 Committee and change the rules so the confidence vote can be re-run. Johnson will lose and his loyalists will go down with him.
The Tories are calculating their best chance of winning the next election or limiting the damage. Enough of them now think that means changing the leader and hoping the public have short memories.
Their problem is there is no obvious alternative. As a non-Tory watching their implosion will be a small compensation for the continuing disaster of this incompetent, lying, corrupt government. The smallest of silver linings!
They seemed content to defend him whilst he lied to the public.
Steve Barclay is the new health secretary.
I suspect Zahawi will either become chancellor or resign
The likes of Zahawi haven’t the integrity to resign. Probably negotiating his travelling allowance.
UNDERHILL1927
05-07-22, 20:20
Surely he can’t survive this……..but I’ve been saying that for over a year.
SLUDGE FACTORY
05-07-22, 20:25
Surely he can’t survive this……..but I’ve been saying that for over a year.
Even if he doesnt its not going to see an alternative to the facking Tories
Because starmer and the liberals don't offer one
A nice safe John major type of tory and its back to the opposition benches
The labour party is dead in the water with the liberals in the lifeboats picking up scraps
The opinion polls would be showing huge leads if the tories were on the ropes but it's not happening
Thoroughly depressing
UNDERHILL1927
05-07-22, 20:38
Even if he doesnt its not going to see an alternative to the facking Tories
Because starmer and the liberals don't offer one
A nice safe John major type of tory and its back to the opposition benches
The labour party is dead in the water with the liberals in the lifeboats picking up scraps
The opinion polls would be showing huge leads if the tories were on the ropes but it's not happening
Thoroughly depressing
Yes, a depressing inevitability about it sadly.
SLUDGE FACTORY
05-07-22, 20:41
Yes, a depressing inevitability about it sadly.
It wasn't perfect but we had the chance to install the alternative vote system which was a sort of PR
But this stupid country couldn't even be bothered to get out of bed to go to the polling booth
We have what we deserve
I'm now getting furniture restorers adverts popping up showing how they can repair cabinets 😂
I'm sorry but I don't think they can fix this one.
chrisp_1927
05-07-22, 21:21
It wasn't perfect but we had the chance to install the alternative vote system which was a sort of PR
But this stupid country couldn't even be bothered to get out of bed to go to the polling booth
We have what we deserve
To be fair, that av is such a watered down system it rendered the entire referendum dead from the start. Full pr or keep what we got for me.
cyril evans awaydays
05-07-22, 21:22
I'm no Boris supporter, or even a tory supporter, but something stinks about the way all these leaks and misdemeanors keep coming along.
It seems there's a concerted plan to oust BoJo, if he doesn't go now, something else will come out next week.
Sleeze getting rid of sleeze?
Two things are amazing. It's amazing how when politicians are surfing the wave their sins go completely unnoticed, unreported or glossed over. Nobody leaks because there is no great route to power and even if they do nobody in the press that matters wants to listen.
Then when the shine wears off how swiftly those unreported sins come to the surface.
The sleazy bits are when politicians like Johnson think they rule all they can see so do what they want. I think it's called hubris!
chrisp_1927
05-07-22, 21:29
Two things are amazing. It's amazing how when politicians are surfing the wave their sins go completely unnoticed, unreported or glossed over. Nobody leaks because there is no great route to power and even if they do nobody in the press that matters wants to listen.
Then when the shine wears off how swiftly those unreported sins come to the surface.
The sleazy bits are when politicians like Johnson think they rule all they can see so do what they want. I think it's called hubris!
I think it's amazing that the sleaze started virtually from the start of his leadership. Didn't even behave for a bit at the start, just straight on doing what he wants. I'd love to know how much carrie has earned in dodgy deals and nonsense jobs he has got her. Must be millions already
Nadhim Zahawi upping his credentials for a pop at being leader IMO. Blojo desperate but appointing Zahawi as Chancellor might prove yet another disastrous decision. The clock ticks.
Mario Miethig
05-07-22, 21:40
Even if he doesnt its not going to see an alternative to the facking Tories
Because starmer and the liberals don't offer one
A nice safe John major type of tory and its back to the opposition benches
The labour party is dead in the water with the liberals in the lifeboats picking up scraps
The opinion polls would be showing huge leads if the tories were on the ropes but it's not happening
Thoroughly depressing
This 100%. Will probably vote Plaid at the next GE and I’m not even a Nationalist.
dandywarhol
05-07-22, 21:41
Nadhim Zahawi as chancellor. It makes, me want to throw up. He along with Patal come over here and tell us we don't need foreign workers. Can't get an holiday abroad because of chaos at the airports. Can't get a bus no drivers. Can't get staff in nursing homes because of piss poor pay What a fcuking shambles.
This country is up to its neck in debt. I daresay the chancellor will increase it by borrowing more for tax cuts.
The Lone Gunman
05-07-22, 21:44
I think it's amazing that the sleaze started virtually from the start of his leadership.
I’m fairness, he was elected after driving around the country in a big red bus with a blatant lie plastered all over the sides of it. A large percentage of the general public lapped that crap up, so it’s little wonder that Johnson believed he could get away with anything. And thus far he has.
Harry Paget Flashman
05-07-22, 21:47
I'm no Boris supporter, or even a tory supporter, but something stinks about the way all these leaks and misdemeanors keep coming along.
It seems there's a concerted plan to oust BoJo, if he doesn't go now, something else will come out next week.
Sleeze getting rid of sleeze?
Maybe they could stop sexually assaulting people, watching porn at work, breaking the law, changing the rules to suit them, lying, having affairs with colleagues. Then there'd no sleaze to leak.
Maybe they could stop sexually assaulting people, watching porn at work, breaking the law, changing the rules to suit them, lying, having affairs with colleagues. Then there'd no sleaze to leak.
It seems basic to me.
cyril evans awaydays
05-07-22, 21:53
Nadhim Zahawi as chancellor. It makes, me want to throw up. He along with Patal come over here and tell us we don't need foreign workers. Can't get an holiday abroad because of chaos at the airports. Can't get a bus no drivers. Can't get staff in nursing homes because of piss poor pay What a fcuking shambles.
This country is up to its neck in debt. I daresay the chancellor will increase it by borrowing more for tax cuts.
I guess it's not surprising that the bang average politicians that Johnson elevated based on loyalty rather than ability are reprising Custer's Last Stand. Not sure about the "coming over here" bit though.
Gofer Blue
05-07-22, 21:54
I still cannot understand the apparently popular notion that Boris Johnson has somehow single-handedly "delivered" Brexit, defeated COVID, and is now set to solve the Ukrainian situation and the cost of living crisis; and all this excuses him for telling blatant lies as he is too busy concentrating on the last two aforementioned matters that he forgets about being at lock-down parties and promoting a sexual predator!
SLUDGE FACTORY
05-07-22, 21:55
Just seen the news from Harrogate, typical well to do tory seat
A few opponents but many still backing him saying OK he's lied but he's done a good job
Well there you go then
Gofer Blue
05-07-22, 21:56
Just seen the news from Harrogate, typical well to do tory seat
A few opponents but many still backing him saying OK he's lied but he's done a good job
Well there you go then
See my post above!
Harry Paget Flashman
05-07-22, 21:57
4982
Her family are doing alright.
PPE contracts and now a promotion.
SLUDGE FACTORY
05-07-22, 22:03
See my post above!
It's almost like you wrote mine
Just seen the news from Harrogate, typical well to do tory seat
A few opponents but many still backing him saying OK he's lied but he's done a good job
Well there you go then
It's all about money
SLUDGE FACTORY
05-07-22, 22:21
It's all about money
It is there
You couldn't pick a more tory seat
Eric Cartman
05-07-22, 23:28
This is incredible for anybody who wants the complete destruction of the conservative party/brand. Keep going Boris, keep appointing people. We believe in you.
the other bob wilson
06-07-22, 05:57
I can't be too critical because I've done it myself once or twice, but it is weird how people on the left on here seize on a Tory f*ck up to have a go at the Labour party - especially in this case where Labour are entirely blameless as far as I can see.
splott parker
06-07-22, 06:19
I’m fairness, he was elected after driving around the country in a big red bus with a blatant lie plastered all over the sides of it. A large percentage of the general public lapped that crap up, so it’s little wonder that Johnson believed he could get away with anything. And thus far he has.
Isn’t he pouring that money he promised into the building of the forty new hospitals he also promised?..........isn’t he??????
I can't be too critical because I've done it myself once or twice, but it is weird how people on the left on here seize on a Tory f*ck up to have a go at the Labour party - especially in this case where Labour are entirely blameless as far as I can see.
but but but Jeremy Corbyn has moved to but but but Keir Starmer.
They say you could put a monkey in a red rosette in Labour areas.
Its worse in Tory areas but a blue rosette on Boris Johnson and some will vote Tory. Or Raab Patel Rees Mogg and all the incompetent idiots. Put a red rosette on a monkey against that lot and if its a straight choice the monkey would be the better option.
Zahawi making himself look a right idiot on TV. No shame.
North Cardiff Blue
06-07-22, 07:50
Sunak and Javid quit. What the hell is actually going on.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62048657
It's great news for the Tories, they can dump it all on Boris and start afresh with a serious Leader like Ben Wallace, easy opposition leader to beat and they can play on the Labour split on Brexit, find some emails from key MPs wanting to rejoin the EU.
North Cardiff Blue
06-07-22, 07:57
There are plenty of Labour supporters and members who wanted out of the EU.
And many more that didn't especially in London and the South.
North Cardiff Blue
06-07-22, 07:59
Imagine Rees Mogg as PM :tumbleweed:
Never going to happen though is it, like saying imagine Dianne Abbott.
Its been emotional
06-07-22, 08:02
Reporting that 12 of his government have resigned in the last 24 hours with more to follow?
It seems basic to me.
Not for politicians….they all seem to be cut from the same cloth partic when in power. What ever happened to Ron Davies? Running around Clapham Common with his pants down as soon as he got into office?
Reporting that 12 of his government have resigned in the last 24 hours with more to follow?
He’s got to go…..I imagine most of those who quit will come back won’t they? Isn’t that how it works?
I can't be too critical because I've done it myself once or twice, but it is weird how people on the left on here seize on a Tory f*ck up to have a go at the Labour party - especially in this case where Labour are entirely blameless as far as I can see.
It comes across as they are frustrated. Unlike post 1994, this Labour party isn't a government in waiting. As long as the left wing vote is split between Labour, Libdems, greens, SNP and Plaid then its going to be hard to oust the incumbent government.
North Cardiff Blue
06-07-22, 08:07
Reporting that 12 of his government have resigned in the last 24 hours with more to follow?
This is what happens, he's lost the dressing room, he is being ousted from within the Tories are ruthless, they've stopped playing it's like us last season when the players decided they wanted rid of McCarthy.
Zahawi making himself look a right idiot on TV. No shame.
If Johnson goes it will just be more of the same old shite. It’s cringeworthy listening to them.
dandywarhol
06-07-22, 08:24
Poor old Nadine. Dorries. She doesn't know what's going on either.
On twitter she tried to distract from the chaos with her congratulatory treat, Nadine Dorries prompted only more laughter at the Tory party when she congratulated Zahawi for becoming Health Secretary.
She's the new Diane Abbott
SLUDGE FACTORY
06-07-22, 08:36
It comes across as they are frustrated. Unlike post 1994, this Labour party isn't a government in waiting. As long as the left wing vote is split between Labour, Libdems, greens, SNP and Plaid then its going to be hard to oust the incumbent government.
It's 2022 , the only way to get these Tories out is for a new centre left alliance to form
It's the only option
North Cardiff Blue
06-07-22, 08:41
It's 2022 , the only way to get these Tories out is for a new centre left alliance to form
It's the only option
A New Labour Tony Blair style middle or slightly right would almost certainly win from here.
North Cardiff Blue
06-07-22, 08:42
Poor old Nadine. Dorries. She doesn't know what's going on either.
On twitter she tried to distract from the chaos with her congratulatory treat, Nadine Dorries prompted only more laughter at the Tory party when she congratulated Zahawi for becoming Health Secretary.
She's the new Diane Abbott
Shes a bit dopey but no one compares to Abbott!
Shes a bit dopey but no one compares to Abbott!
Diane abbott is pretty intelligent, She probably has a far more impressive academic record than you.
Citizen's Nephew
06-07-22, 08:47
This is what happens, he's lost the dressing room, he is being ousted from within the Tories are ruthless, they've stopped playing it's like us last season when the players decided they wanted rid of McCarthy.
Agreed, but ironically, what Johnson's team needed was more centre backs but he stuffed his side with far-right backs and just him up front scoring own goals whist introducing changes to the laws that make any goals scored in any net by any player in blue still count because they're scored by world-beating out-of-their-league players.
SLUDGE FACTORY
06-07-22, 08:48
Shes a bit dopey but no one compares to Abbott!
She's the tory equivalent
She's thick as ****
SLUDGE FACTORY
06-07-22, 08:49
A New Labour Tony Blair style middle or slightly right would almost certainly win from here.
As long as he doesn't invade Iraq
North Cardiff Blue
06-07-22, 08:52
Diane abbott is pretty intelligent, She probably has a far more impressive academic record than you.
How do you know, and it doesn't matter if you have a degree in Greek philosophy but can't tie your shoelaces.
North Cardiff Blue
06-07-22, 08:53
As long as he doesn't invade Iraq
Thats the thing all they have to do is win an election, they can do whatever they want once elected.
North Cardiff Blue
06-07-22, 08:54
She's the tory equivalent
She's thick as ****
She's a bit undefendable but nowhere near as dopey as Abbott IMO.
rudy gestede
06-07-22, 09:00
She's a bit undefendable but nowhere near as dopey as Abbott IMO.
One of them has a degree from Cambridge. Guess which one.
North Cardiff Blue
06-07-22, 09:14
One of them has a degree from Cambridge. Guess which one.
Not sure is it the one that thinks 10,000 policemen will cost £300,000?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAEixRNPQmE
JamesWales
06-07-22, 09:18
It's a ridiculous state of affairs and Boris needs to go. For his own good.
rudy gestede
06-07-22, 09:21
Not sure is it the one that thinks 10,000 policemen will cost £300,000?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAEixRNPQmE
No it’s the one who said this while defending data protection breaches
My staff log onto my computer on my desk with my login everyday. Including interns on exchange programmes
It's a ridiculous state of affairs and Boris needs to go. For his own good.
Has nobody thought of poor Boris' feelings? :-)
JamesWales
06-07-22, 09:53
7 gone so far today..as it says here...Its going to be a long day...
Lee Anderson going is significant. He punches above his weight.
https://order-order.com/2022/07/06/wednesday-live-blog/
7 gone so far today..as it says here...Its going to be a long day...
Lee Anderson going is significant. He punches above his weight.
https://order-order.com/2022/07/06/wednesday-live-blog/
Rats leaving a sinking ship.
They all knew exactly what Boris was like when they voted him in as leader, all of a sudden they get up on their high horses.
Don't believe a word of it.
life on mars
06-07-22, 09:57
Its not chaos its politics its happened over and over gain through the decades its starts with moans and no confidence, then leaks , then it cabinet resignations who are usually the king makers and leakers , happened in Labour party recently .
Look out for Penney Mordant and Ben Wallace bookie prices..
I've always thought a mix of Corbyn, Brexit , Metropolitan Based Labour , delivered Boris to us .
Eric Cartman
06-07-22, 10:02
Rats leaving a sinking ship.
They all knew exactly what Boris was like when they voted him in as leader, all of a sudden they get up on their high horses.
Don't believe a word of it.
It is embarrassing
Citizen's Nephew
06-07-22, 10:04
Rats leaving a sinking ship.
They all knew exactly what Boris was like when they voted him in as leader, all of a sudden they get up on their high horses.
Don't believe a word of it.
:thumbup:
cyril evans awaydays
06-07-22, 10:08
7 gone so far today..as it says here...Its going to be a long day...
Lee Anderson going is significant. He punches above his weight.
https://order-order.com/2022/07/06/wednesday-live-blog/
And apparently can live on a diet below it!
the other bob wilson
06-07-22, 10:14
Its not chaos its politics its happened over and over gain through the decades its starts with moans and no confidence, then leaks , then it cabinet resignations who are usually the king makers and leakers , happened in Labour party recently .
Look out for Penney Mordant and Ben Wallace bookie prices..
I've always thought a mix of Corbyn, Brexit , Metropolitan Based Labour , delivered Boris to us .
It is chaos - the person in charge creates chaos.
JamesWales
06-07-22, 10:51
More updates..Most significant:
1140: The Speccie’s James Forsythe reports a senior 1922 executive member tells him “they now favour a delegation going to Johnson to tell him that it is over and that they will change the rules to allow another vote if he doesn’t quit”. #MenInGreySuits
https://order-order.com/2022/07/06/wednesday-live-blog/
Elwood Blues
06-07-22, 11:02
It is sounding to me that the 1922 committee will go to Boris Johnson this week and tell him that unless he resigns the committee will change the rules so they can have another vote and he will be gone anyway.
Apparently this is what Sir Graham Brady told Theresa may before she resigned.
I think Boris will make them change the rules and vote him out. He won't go himself.
JamesWales
06-07-22, 11:05
It is sounding to me that the 1922 committee will go to Boris Johnson this week and tell him that unless he resigns the committee will change the rules so they can have another vote and he will be gone anyway.
Apparently this is what Sir Graham Brady told Theresa may before she resigned.
I think Boris will make them change the rules and vote him out. He won't go himself.
In a roundabout way, they are probably happy with that. It makes them look determined and successful in getting their end goal
Harry Paget Flashman
06-07-22, 11:13
Charge of the lightweight brigade.
Elwood Blues
06-07-22, 11:14
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In a roundabout way, they are probably happy with that. It makes them look determined and successful in getting their end goal
According to Politics live, the 1922 are prpearing for leadership hustings to start on Monday with the two candiatespickedby the recess and the party tovotein a new leader in August.
I suppose that is possible. If he won't go, the 1922 committee could probably change it's rules by tomorrow with a vote on Friday ( which is bad day because most M.P's tend to go back to their constituencies on Friday's) or Monday.
It's 2022 , the only way to get these Tories out is for a new centre left alliance to form
It's the only option
Yep
Charge of the lightweight brigade.
more like charge of the shite bridge
life on mars
06-07-22, 11:28
Gove not at PM Questions he is outside Parliament on his phone ??
Citizen's Nephew
06-07-22, 11:29
Gove not at PM Questions he is outside Parliament on his phone ??
Dealer?
Dealer?
no smoke without fire (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/drugs-westminster-speaker-hoyle-police-b1970106.html)
:sherlock:
life on mars
06-07-22, 11:38
It is chaos - the person in charge creates chaos.
You really suggesting me this has never happened before in the history of political parties in or out of Government.
Labour as the Tories have imploded so many times , the chaos created by the one eyed anti Blair brigade are the reason why we have the Tories , the only difference I can see the Tories seem to recover for these turmoil's sadly Labour has the same wars but slips back in the voters minds , it needs to find a left centrist ground , as that is what this country is , not Corbyn far left or Mogg far right .
I'm sure Sir Kier is doing well today, and I am genuinely happy for him , however lets not fool ourselves and his to think there are folks in Labour wanting his him politics gone and will continue sadly they find the balls to form their own party , Tories did in the name of UKIP ??
life on mars
06-07-22, 11:41
no smoke without fire (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/drugs-westminster-speaker-hoyle-police-b1970106.html)
:sherlock:
found the perfect match!
Citizen's Nephew
06-07-22, 11:41
no smoke without fire (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/drugs-westminster-speaker-hoyle-police-b1970106.html)
:sherlock:
The thing is, they write and talk like this is a new(ish) problem. As an ex Londoner I can tell you it's been like this since the early 2000s. The City and old Fleet Street was the same. I have heard stories of open use at 'the desk' in Westminster though, which is a new development.
the other bob wilson
06-07-22, 11:57
You really suggesting me this has never happened before in the history of political parties in or out of Government.
Labour as the Tories have imploded so many times , the chaos created by the one eyed anti Blair brigade are the reason why we have the Tories , the only difference I can see the Tories seem to recover for these turmoil's sadly Labour has the same wars but slips back in the voters minds , it needs to find a left centrist ground , as that is what this country is , not Corbyn far left or Mogg far right .
I'm sure Sir Kier is doing well today, and I am genuinely happy for him , however lets not fool ourselves and his to think there are folks in Labour wanting his him politics gone and will continue sadly they find the balls to form their own party , Tories did in the name of UKIP ??
I make it Johnson is the thirteenth Prime Minister of my lifetime. I can’t comment on Eden, but have recollections of all of the others and none of them were as corrupt and inept as the current holder of the job.
A Quiet Monkfish
06-07-22, 12:05
I make it Johnson is the thirteenth Prime Minister of my lifetime. I can’t comment on Eden, but have recollections of all of the others and none of them were as corrupt and inept as the current holder of the job.
Corrupt ? Morally perhaps. It just annoys me that the business of governing/running the country is becoming a sideline to personality politics. How long do ministers keep their positions nowadays ? Six months, a year ? How you can run the 6th largest nation like that, heavens knows.
I make it Johnson is the thirteenth Prime Minister of my lifetime. I can’t comment on Eden, but have recollections of all of the others and none of them were as corrupt and inept as the current holder of the job.
Or as lazy as Johnson.
It is sounding to me that the 1922 committee will go to Boris Johnson this week and tell him that unless he resigns the committee will change the rules so they can have another vote and he will be gone anyway.
Apparently this is what Sir Graham Brady told Theresa may before she resigned.
I think Boris will make them change the rules and vote him out. He won't go himself.
I can't see him quitting either.
This is a fair point :hehe:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How joyous that the end of Johnson is going to come from a bunch of Tory MPs changing the rules to get a second vote because they didn't like the result of the first one. <a href="https://t.co/vMUh4BApDb">pic.twitter.com/vMUh4BApDb</a></p>— Robert (@yaxleymellis) <a href="https://twitter.com/yaxleymellis/status/1544582585459920896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 6, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Jordi Culé
06-07-22, 12:58
Corrupt ? Morally perhaps. It just annoys me that the business of governing/running the country is becoming a sideline to personality politics. How long do ministers keep their positions nowadays ? Six months, a year ? How you can run the 6th largest nation like that, heavens knows.
Fair play that's a take that Johnson is only morally corrupt.
How about handing a contract to a woman you're shagging via the public purse or trying to get another woman you're shagging a job in the foreign office?
"Z list cast of nodding dogs"
Starmers hammered these muppets today.
What a state on the front bench.
All need to go. Country needs all of them gone.
chrisp_1927
06-07-22, 13:29
Diane abbott is pretty intelligent, She probably has a far more impressive academic record than you.
I was watching a few select committees the other day, abbot really is something special to be fair. There were quite a few daft mp's but she was beyond. Absolute moron of a woman.
chrisp_1927
06-07-22, 13:35
5 more gone now. There'll be nobody left soon. Carrie will be chancellor by end of the week
"Z list cast of nodding dogs"
Starmers hammered these muppets today.
What a state on the front bench.
All need to go. Country needs all of them gone.
Agreed. Twelve years of the Tories in power and the country has far greater debt, far more food banks, a broken healthcare system, a disastrous Brexit and unions flexing their muscles and corruption and lying on an industrial scale.
Johnson is finished. He will be gone in days and possibly in hours. Good riddance. He is an excuse of a human being. Shagging Carrie whilst his wife was having treatment for cancer says a lot.
"The Sinking Ship leaving" the rat.😂😂😂
"The Sinking Ship leaving" the rat.������
was one of his best lines :hehe:
North Cardiff Blue
06-07-22, 14:12
It is sounding to me that the 1922 committee will go to Boris Johnson this week and tell him that unless he resigns the committee will change the rules so they can have another vote and he will be gone anyway.
Apparently this is what Sir Graham Brady told Theresa may before she resigned.
I think Boris will make them change the rules and vote him out. He won't go himself.
Steve Baker is supposed to be trying to control this, he'll be gone in a month, porobably a week.
the other bob wilson
06-07-22, 14:19
Gove is telling Johnson to resign now.
North Cardiff Blue
06-07-22, 14:20
Sunak and Javid quit. What the hell is actually going on.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62048657
About time really it's a win win for the conservatives, Boris will go and make Millions doing speeches and touring the World, the tories dump it all on Boris and move forward with the complete opposite, someone sensible like Ben Wallis. They have two years plus to reset and make some tax cuts and levelling up promises before the next election.
Labour's best hope is that Kier is found guilty and they can get someone like Andy Burnham to step in.
North Cardiff Blue
06-07-22, 14:22
Gove is telling Johnson to resign now.
Hate each other really and Javid and Boris do, he didn't take long to stick the boot in.
About time really it's a win win for the conservatives, Boris will go and make Millions doing speeches and touring the World, the tories dump it all on Boris and move forward with the complete opposite, someone sensible like Ben Wallis. They have two years plus to reset and make some tax cuts and levelling up promises before the next election.
Labour's best hope is that Kier is found guilty and they can get someone like Andy Burnham to step in.
Wallace has backed Johnson.
Z list nodding dog.
About time really it's a win win for the conservatives, Boris will go and make Millions doing speeches and touring the World, the tories dump it all on Boris and move forward with the complete opposite, someone sensible like Ben Wallis. They have two years plus to reset and make some tax cuts and levelling up promises before the next election.
Labour's best hope is that Kier is found guilty and they can get someone like Andy Burnham to step in.
Burnham isn't an MP so he cannot be leader.
North Cardiff Blue
06-07-22, 14:44
Burnham isn't an MP so he cannot be leader.
Oh Yes he's still a Mayor isn't he, maybe he'll stand next time?
About time really it's a win win for the conservatives, Boris will go and make Millions doing speeches and touring the World, the tories dump it all on Boris and move forward with the complete opposite, someone sensible like Ben Wallis. They have two years plus to reset and make some tax cuts and levelling up promises before the next election.
Labour's best hope is that Kier is found guilty and they can get someone like Andy Burnham to step in.
It's a wonderful time to be an anti-Tory enthusiast
Fair play that's a take that Johnson is only morally corrupt.
How about handing a contract to a woman you're shagging via the public purse or trying to get another woman you're shagging a job in the foreign office?
Johnson is Berlusconi without the media empire.
North Cardiff Blue
06-07-22, 15:13
It's a wonderful time to be an anti-Tory enthusiast
Is it?
Some don't seem too happy, most would have loved for him to limp on?
North Cardiff Blue
06-07-22, 15:15
Sunak and Javid quit. What the hell is actually going on.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62048657
He dodged all those scandals and finally got done by a male, male bum pincher.
life on mars
06-07-22, 15:16
Is it?
Some don't seem too happy, most would have loved for him to limp on?
Anti Tories enthusiast should be aware what you wish for they may create another Blair Witch , Son of Satan , or Stig Of the Allotment ..
Durham police watching this or still study questionnaires :sherlock:
Step forth Angela of the normal talking folk its your time to shine
North Cardiff Blue
06-07-22, 15:29
Anti Tories enthusiast should be aware what you wish for they may create another Blair Witch , Son of Satan , or Stig Of the Allotment ..
Durham police watching this or still study questionnaires :sherlock:
Step forth Angela of the normal talking folk its your time to shine
Deep down all of the Labour party are hoping he gets find, so they can try and find someone better.
Deep down all of the Labour party are hoping he gets find, so they can try and find someone better.
1. No, they aren't
2. He's not getting fined
the other bob wilson
06-07-22, 15:35
BBC reporting that a group of Cabinet ministers plus the Chief Whip are going to meet Johnson to tell him should resign.
Tito Fuente
06-07-22, 15:46
Anti Tories enthusiast should be aware what you wish for they may create another Blair Witch , Son of Satan , or Stig Of the Allotment ..
Durham police watching this or still study questionnaires :sherlock:
Step forth Angela of the normal talking folk its your time to shine
:hehe: You must be seething.
Deep down all of the Labour party are hoping he gets find, so they can try and find someone better.
😂😂😂😂
Elwood Blues
06-07-22, 15:52
BBC reporting that a group of Cabinet ministers plus the Chief Whip are going to meet Johnson to tell him should resign.
Including Grant Shapps.Nadim Zahawi (!) Brandon Lewis and Simon Hart the Welsh Secretary.
have you watched any of his grilling by the Liaison Committee, Bob?
Not many allies there,even though the majority are Tories.
Only a matter of time now surely???
Including Grant Shapps.Nadim Zahawi (!) Brandon Lewis and Simon Hart the Welsh Secretary.
have you watched any of his grilling by the Liaison Committee, Bob?
Not many allies there,even though the majority are Tories.
Only a matter of time now surely???
During PMQs Simon Hart was sat fairly close to the PM and I thought he was one of the few still supporting him.
life on mars
06-07-22, 15:56
1922 group alledgly has changed its rules so he's gone if true ..
Next .
life on mars
06-07-22, 16:00
:hehe: You must be seething.
I really don't mind , I just enjoy politics and studied it.
Its politics as a whole I like not the following and beliefs of a single view , happy to see the best in all parties ..
I have found voting patterns interesting ..
35 ministers now gone..
the other bob wilson
06-07-22, 16:01
Including Grant Shapps.Nadim Zahawi (!) Brandon Lewis and Simon Hart the Welsh Secretary.
have you watched any of his grilling by the Liaison Committee, Bob?
Not many allies there,even though the majority are Tories.
Only a matter of time now surely???
Been switching back and for from the tennis - I was almost, but not quite, feeling sorry for him at times.
Apparently Zahawi who was on TV this morning defending Johnson and accepted the Chacellor job yesterday is now going to ask him to go.
These Tories really do have no shame or morals. This does look like he can see those backing the bufoon look like complete lacking in integrity and idiots and now trying to save himself.
If Raab backtracks ill throw up.😂
Those backing him are damaged goods as well.
life on mars
06-07-22, 16:07
Is Nadhim Zahawi going to be the shortest serving Chancellor on record.. he's about to persuade Boris to go privately.
The Sinking Ship really are deserting the rat.
All out to save themselves.
the other bob wilson
06-07-22, 16:10
I take it Raab would take over while the Tories find a new leader, as I can’t see Johnson carrying on in a caretaker role.
life on mars
06-07-22, 16:10
Apparently Zahawi who was on TV this morning defending Johnson and accepted the Chacellor job yesterday is now going to ask him to go.
These Tories really do have no shame or morals. This does look like he can see those backing the bufoon look like complete lacking in integrity and idiots and now trying to save himself.
If Raab backtracks ill throw up.😂
Those backing him are damaged goods as well.
Pritti now telling Boris to go .
That's why new leader will be someone different..
Like Ben Wallace or Penny Mourdant.
Although Wallace is a friend of Boris ..
Tito Fuente
06-07-22, 16:10
I really don't mind , I just enjoy politics and studied it.
Its politics as a whole I like not the following and beliefs of a single view , happy to see the best in all parties ..
I have found voting patterns interesting ..
35 ministers now gone..
:hehe:
life on mars
06-07-22, 16:11
I take it Raab would take over while the Tories find a new leader, as I can’t see Johnson carrying on in a caretaker role.
Carrie Johnson ?
North Cardiff Blue
06-07-22, 16:11
1. No, they aren't
2. He's not getting fined
Really?
I honestly think he and all around him know he's out of his depth, and that he is not cutting through with the electorate.
I've got a few mates who are Labour to the core and really know their stuff, they desperately want a change, they smell blood and want to make the most of this chance?
I suppose that’s Labour they can't really agree on anything.
I think he might be fined, and if so he'll be happy to get out of the limelight he doesn't seem to like it.
life on mars
06-07-22, 16:13
Snap election ruled out by Boris
life on mars
06-07-22, 16:15
1922 committee roles all up for grabs vote Monday . Gives Boris time to resign maybe ??
North Cardiff Blue
06-07-22, 16:15
Snap election ruled out by Boris
It would be political suicide!
cyril evans awaydays
06-07-22, 16:15
If Carlsberg did defenestrations...
North Cardiff Blue
06-07-22, 16:17
The Sinking Ship really are deserting the rat.
All out to save themselves.
Yep all poiticians definately!
North Cardiff Blue
06-07-22, 16:19
It's not great timing the Country needs serious attention and all we'll have is a leadership campaign!
I take it Raab would take over while the Tories find a new leader, as I can’t see Johnson carrying on in a caretaker role.
He needs to go with Johnson.
Immediately and hopefully never on a front bench again.
Yep all poiticians definately!
Thank goodness NOT all politicians. Only those of a certain ilk.
He's now received as many resignation letters as he does Father's Day cards.
Thank goodness NOT all politicians. Only those of a certain ilk.
Hang on but but but Jeremy Corbyn the Tory boys now changing to but but Kier Starmer.
For good measure Diane Abbot has been brought up from people who helped put Nadine Dorries in govt.
He's now received as many resignation letters as he does Father's Day cards.
😂😂😂😂
Citizen's Nephew
06-07-22, 17:19
:hehe:
It's hilarious. He's been happily filling the glass to the right but refuses to pass to the left so I suspect he's just drinking it straight out of the decanter.
Citizen's Nephew
06-07-22, 17:20
He's now received as many resignation letters as he does Father's Day cards.
Hah Hah! Very good! :hehe::thumbup:
Wales-Bales
06-07-22, 17:54
Carrie Johnson ?
Carrie on Boris, I wonder if anybody filmed it?
SLUDGE FACTORY
06-07-22, 18:01
All back stabbing chancers
Javid is a short arse
You can't trust short arses
dandywarhol
06-07-22, 18:04
If Boris goes will the new incumbent keep the wallpaper?
Organ Morgan.
06-07-22, 18:07
All back stabbing chancers
Javid is a short arse
You can't trust short arses
Yours is a vertically challenged discriminatory one. People of a smaller stature should not be ridiculed.
Reported.
Carrie on Boris, I wonder if anybody filmed it?
:hehe: very good :thumbup:
Well I for one want nadine dorries as PM, if anything for comedic value. Maybe we can get Dianne Abbott as opposition leader.
PMQs would be amazing
SLUDGE FACTORY
06-07-22, 19:12
Well I for one want nadine dorries as PM, if anything for comedic value. Maybe we can get Dianne Abbott as opposition leader.
PMQs would be amazing
She is genuinely stupid
She must have boffed her way through life
Thick as a plank
cyril evans awaydays
06-07-22, 19:22
I can't believe they are letting him drift on....comedy gold!
Well Rees Mogg must be feeling stupid,he said only yesterday Boris will go on till 2030.
I wonder if he ment the time.
Berlin...bunker...1945. Except Johnson won't fall on his on sword.
cyril evans awaydays
06-07-22, 20:17
I have to say that a Cabinet split between cowardice, bravado, ambition. loyalty and stupidity makes me wish Shakespeare was alive to do the play!
The Lone Gunman
06-07-22, 20:19
Johnson has no shame whatsoever, but we knew that already. The way in which he is currently clinging onto power is comical and cringeworthy in equal measures.
People actually voted for this man. There were millions who genuinely believed Johnson would make a good Prime Minister, but that’s the British public for you.
UNDERHILL1927
06-07-22, 20:20
Johnson has no shame whatsoever, but we knew that already. The way in which he is currently clinging onto power is comical and cringeworthy in equal measures.
People actually voted for this man. There were millions who genuinely believed Johnson would make a good Prime Minister, but that’s the British public for you.
He’s just showing his stubborn, selfish attitude. In fact I’m sure he thinks he’s untouchable.
cyril evans awaydays
06-07-22, 20:29
Johnson has no shame whatsoever, but we knew that already. The way in which he is currently clinging onto power is comical and cringeworthy in equal measures.
People actually voted for this man. There were millions who genuinely believed Johnson would make a good Prime Minister, but that’s the British public for you.
Surely the people who voted for him and cuddle up to him even now call him Boris, not Johnson though.
Sacking Gove ffs. It's like he's trashing the Conservative party out of spite.
cyril evans awaydays
06-07-22, 20:32
Its not chaos its politics its happened over and over gain through the decades its starts with moans and no confidence, then leaks , then it cabinet resignations who are usually the king makers and leakers , happened in Labour party recently .
Look out for Penney Mordant and Ben Wallace bookie prices..
I've always thought a mix of Corbyn, Brexit , Metropolitan Based Labour , delivered Boris to us .
Bump
SLUDGE FACTORY
06-07-22, 20:38
Scorched earth policy
He's setting fire to everyone as he leaves
Its cracking me up
Surely the people who voted for him and cuddle up to him even now call him Boris, not Johnson though.
Sacking Gove ffs. It's like he's trashing the Conservative party out of spite.
heard some hilarious speculation that he could call a snap general election out of spite, to screw over those that have brought him down. don't think it can happen without a vote though
dandywarhol
06-07-22, 20:47
Carrie on Boris, I wonder if anybody filmed it?
Boris didn't know whether he was coming or going.
The Lone Gunman
06-07-22, 20:50
Sacking Gove ffs. It's like he's trashing the Conservative party out of spite.
Let’s be honest, he sacked Gove before Gove could resign. It reminds me of one of the opening scenes in Smashie and Nicey, when a Radio One controller bursts into a press conference shouting “they’re sacked, they’re sacked! while the hapless DJs enter through another door shouting “we resign, we resign!”
Citizen's Nephew
06-07-22, 21:02
Let’s be honest, he sacked Gove before Gove could resign. It reminds me of one of the opening scenes in Smashie and Nicey, when a Radio One controller bursts into a press conference shouting “they’re sacked, they’re sacked! while the hapless DJs enter through another door shouting “we resign, we resign!”
Perfect description! I'd love to see a Peep Show style drama of all of this happening at some point but directed by Tarantino.
Elwood Blues
06-07-22, 21:03
Is Boris Monty Python's Black Knight
Or Rasputin
Is Boris Monty Python's Black Knight
Or Rasputin
or a turd that won't flush
The Lone Gunman
06-07-22, 21:14
Apparently, the number of Tory ministers and aides who have resigned since yesterday now stands at 42. This is incredible stuff.
Eric Cartman
06-07-22, 21:17
Sacking Gove ffs. It's like he's trashing the Conservative party out of spite.
Yep, what a terrible shame :popcorn:
Gofer Blue
06-07-22, 21:52
Simon Hart M.P. has resigned.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62048657
Gofer Blue
06-07-22, 21:54
Gove sacking - Johnson's revenge?
chrisp_1927
06-07-22, 21:54
The sacking of Gove is absolutely brilliant. Such a snivelling, useless little ballbag he can't even resign properly!
Gofer Blue
06-07-22, 22:01
The sacking of Gove is absolutely brilliant. Such a snivelling, useless little ballbag he can't even resign properly!
I suspect BJ got in first to deny Gove the opportunity of resigning.
cyril evans awaydays
06-07-22, 22:05
I suspect BJ got in first to deny Gove the opportunity of resigning.
I bet Gove is really pissed off that he has sacked by Boris Johnson on his cv
cyril evans awaydays
06-07-22, 22:09
Suella Braverman just said she's up to be the new leader. Just when I thought my pants couldn't absorb more urine this happens!
SLUDGE FACTORY
06-07-22, 22:13
Suella Braverman just said she's up to be the new leader. Just when I thought my pants couldn't absorb more urine this happens!
Who is she ?
Who is she ?
A Brexit loving nobody
SLUDGE FACTORY
06-07-22, 22:44
A Brexit loving nobody
They are all going to be fighting for scraps now
It was the brexit mob that brought him in to do a job and now he's being subbed
Back stabbing tossers stabbing a back stabbing tosser
Citizen's Nephew
06-07-22, 22:47
Rats leaving a sinking ship.
They all knew exactly what Boris was like when they voted him in as leader, all of a sudden they get up on their high horses.
Don't believe a word of it.
Here's a quote from Frances Ryan, author of Crippled: Austerity and the Demonisation of Disabled People
'They didn’t resign over Covid deaths.
They didn’t resign over benefit cuts.
They didn’t resign over Partygate.
They didn’t resign over PPE.
They didn’t resign over Brexit failure.
They didn’t resign over deporting refugees.
Spare us the praise for the ‘good’ Tories.'
Citizen's Nephew
06-07-22, 23:01
Final one for the night and off to bed, but I did like this one:
https://twitter.com/mrjamesob/status/1544748311474839555
life on mars
06-07-22, 23:43
Who is she ?
A successful lady , she is the Attorney General , her parents came to the UK in the 60's ,she is a Buddhist. She is one of many Asian / Ethnic Tories who hold or did hold very high office in the Tory party ..
Her becoming PM and Tory leader , would be some achievement..
A successful lady , she is the Attorney General , her parents came to the UK in the 60's ,she is a Buddhist. She is one of many Asian / Ethnic Tories who hold or did hold very high office in the Tory party ..
Her becoming PM and Tory leader , would be some achievement..
https://twitter.com/unfitforpurpose/status/1544806619728515074?t=DUMmsqO0sPrahDLqDH0sYg&s=19
the other bob wilson
07-07-22, 05:37
Suella Braverman just said she's up to be the new leader. Just when I thought my pants couldn't absorb more urine this happens!
It's a new approach, "I'm not resigning my job, but I will be standing for his when he finally goes".
WJ99mobile
07-07-22, 05:58
I bet Gove is really pissed off that he has sacked by Boris Johnson on his cv
Does anyone actually like Gove?
He seems to have a supremely high opinion of himself despite being quite loathsome
Elwood Blues
07-07-22, 05:59
Good mornign campers
Hi de Hi
THis mornings new
Northern Ireland Secretary Brandon Lewis has resigned
Exchequer Secretary to the Treasury Helen Whateley has resigned
WJ99mobile
07-07-22, 06:00
Here's a quote from Frances Ryan, author of Crippled: Austerity and the Demonisation of Disabled People
'They didn’t resign over Covid deaths.
They didn’t resign over benefit cuts.
They didn’t resign over Partygate.
They didn’t resign over PPE.
They didn’t resign over Brexit failure.
They didn’t resign over deporting refugees.
Spare us the praise for the ‘good’ Tories.'
I would assume many conservative voters wouldn’t care about some of that above.
Elwood Blues
07-07-22, 06:27
And now its 49
Damian Hines Security Minister gone
George Freeman Science Minikster gone
50 not out!!!
splott parker
07-07-22, 06:27
No doubt we'll soon be seeing footage of dyed in the wool Tory voters praising the integrity of those MPs who’ve resigned. :facepalm:
Citizen's Nephew
07-07-22, 06:34
No doubt we'll soon be seeing footage of dyed in the wool Tory voters praising the integrity of those MPs who’ve resigned. :facepalm:
As Churchill said: "oh yes!"
Elwood Blues
07-07-22, 06:41
I wonder if Boris knows the word of Abide with Me
It includes
'Change and Decay in all around I see' !!!!!!
Take heed Boris
The only way to stop the Change and Decay is to go.
Today
SLUDGE FACTORY
07-07-22, 06:49
Mr Integrity Matt Hancock withdraws his support
The rats are all coming out of the sewer
SLUDGE FACTORY
07-07-22, 06:50
Are we going to get a general election out of this ?
I can't see starmer winning as he's hopeless
But at least a dent could be made in the majority ?
Citizen's Nephew
07-07-22, 07:15
I would assume many conservative voters wouldn’t care about some of that above.
Sadly, I have to agree.
It would be an insult to monkeys to say put a blue rosette on a monkey and some people would vote for it.
rudy gestede
07-07-22, 07:29
I would assume many conservative voters wouldn’t care about some of that above.
That’s the exact point isn’t it? These people resigning aren’t doing so morally, because they have no morals. They’re doing it to save their own skin.
Citizen's Nephew
07-07-22, 07:36
A successful lady , she is the Attorney General , her parents came to the UK in the 60's ,she is a Buddhist. She is one of many Asian / Ethnic Tories who hold or did hold very high office in the Tory party ..
Her becoming PM and Tory leader , would be some achievement..
Attorney general Suella Braverman belongs to controversial Buddhist sect (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/15/new-attorney-general-suella-braverman-in-controversial-buddhist-sect) :sherlock:
'The new attorney general is a member of a controversial religious sect which continues to venerate its founder despite well-documented claims that he was a serial sexual predator, the Observer can reveal.'
North Cardiff Blue
07-07-22, 07:40
Was there such a long thread of joy when Bob Bradley was sacked at Swansea, he was shocking his loss rate was brilliant and he really weakened the opposition, I would have liked him to have stayed forever!
She wants to be leader , calls for Johnson to quit , but wont resign.
What a govt.
All goes back to Brexit. Jobs for incompetent boys and girls.
It would be surprising if the dishonourable member would resign. He'd need the same spin doctor as Putin if Russia would give up in the Ukraine. Surely their best bet now is to find a relatively untainted outsider as leader and hope to gain some electoral confidence before 2024.
Citizen's Nephew
07-07-22, 07:42
That’s the exact point isn’t it? These people resigning aren’t doing so morally, because they have no morals. They’re doing it to save their own skin.
I keep the clip of them all cheering the failure of the nurses pay rise vote on my phone as a constant reminder. All of this pseudo-outrage directed at Johnson when they've been enabling a narcissistic personality disorder in order to jerk off to power and privilege makes me want to vomit.
North Cardiff Blue
07-07-22, 07:42
A successful lady , she is the Attorney General , her parents came to the UK in the 60's ,she is a Buddhist. She is one of many Asian / Ethnic Tories who hold or did hold very high office in the Tory party ..
Her becoming PM and Tory leader , would be some achievement..
Absolutely no chance!
Was there such a long thread of joy when Bob Bradley was sacked at Swansea, he was shocking his loss rate was brilliant and he really weakened the opposition, I would have liked him to have stayed forever!
After Cullis any other Swansea manager in history can be classed as a genius.
I keep the clip of them all cheering the failure of the nurses pay rise vote on my phone as a constant reminder. All of this pseudo-outrage directed at Johnson when they've been enabling a narcissistic personality disorder in order to jerk off to power and privilege makes me want to vomit.
Zahawi called for a 9% pay increase for teachers. Hes now Chancellor. Will he act or was it all bullsh!t.
North Cardiff Blue
07-07-22, 07:47
After Cullis any other Swansea manager in history can be classed as a genius.
Just googled what happened after, they had Jimmy Rimmer for two games as caretaker then Jan Molby who improved them!
North Cardiff Blue
07-07-22, 07:50
Zahawi called for a 9% pay increase for teachers. Hes now Chancellor. Will he act or was it all bullsh!t.
I'd imagine they'll all go back to old posts whle the new leader is elected?
Elwood Blues
07-07-22, 08:14
BBC has said Boris isgoing to resign.
Letter now beiong written apparently
the other bob wilson
07-07-22, 08:22
BBC has said Boris isgoing to resign.
Letter now beiong written apparently
He’s staying until the autumn it seems while they elect a new leader, but how can all of these people who have resigned go back to their old jobs as if nothings changed?
cyril evans awaydays
07-07-22, 08:35
He’s staying until the autumn it seems while they elect a new leader, but how can all of these people who have resigned go back to their old jobs as if nothings changed?
Ludicrous but perfectly in keeping with his character. The idea that he can command respect or service from a Cabinet, Party or country during the next three months is pie in the sky.
North Cardiff Blue
07-07-22, 08:37
He’s staying until the autumn it seems while they elect a new leader, but how can all of these people who have resigned go back to their old jobs as if nothings changed?
They have work to do, they'll know the jobs and what needs to be done, the resignations were just a mutiny to push Boris as he wouldn't go himself.
The quicker they get a new leader the quicker, it's probably the worst possible time!
North Cardiff Blue
07-07-22, 08:47
Boris won't have any power, I doubt they will let him make any decisions, it will be by cabinet committee until the New Leader in September.
cyril evans awaydays
07-07-22, 08:52
Boris won't have any power, I doubt they will let him make any decisions, it will be by cabinet committee until the New Leader in September.
Johnson's cuddly name to the last. If you think he wouldn't try to use this period for some kind of grandstanding redemption attempt you have learned nothing from the last three years!
Citizen's Nephew
07-07-22, 08:54
I've said before I'm totally done with political parties and prefer direct activism these days.
Parliament needs to work together. Get the brightest and best of all parties and sort the mess out. I cringed earlier this week listening to Starmer. I cringe listening to all political party leaders. Labour needs to work with everyone else and stop this idea of a party 'winning' an election but remember that each MP is representing real people with real problems in the real world. Westminster is not fit for purpose.
They fail with their basic duty of care. They'd be fired in the world I live in.
I've said before I'm totally done with political parties and prefer direct activism these days.
Parliament needs to work together. Get the brightest and best of all parties and sort the mess out. I cringed earlier this week listening to Starmer. I cringe listening to all political party leaders. Labour needs to work with everyone else and stop this idea of a party 'winning' an election but remember that each MP is representing real people with real problems in the real world. Westminster is not fit for purpose.
They fail with their basic duty of care. They'd be fired in the world I live in.
Yes there could be a much more effective way to run a country, if you ran a business in the same way as we run the country it would be a total disaster.
It is not gong to change until the motivation is there for the MPs to start acting differently. At the moment their only incentive is to get voted in again next time, and maybe get themselves a more important job.
Citizen's Nephew
07-07-22, 09:09
They have work to do, they'll know the jobs and what needs to be done, the resignations were just a mutiny to push Boris as he wouldn't go himself.
The quicker they get a new leader the quicker, it's probably the worst possible time!
They've had three years of work to do and taken the piss. I can't think of any real world example that wouldn't have had a complete management restructure and fired the lot of them in any professional environment I've ever worked in.
Work to do! Here you go, these were taken in Grangetown Tescos yesterday. The real f*cking world! Westminster's a theatrical drama full of egos, cocaine and sexual predators. They can all do one as far as I'm concerned.
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splott parker
07-07-22, 09:17
Warnock and Pulis on standby apparently
Enough of this Tory debauchery....when are we seeing our new kit?!
Citizen's Nephew
07-07-22, 09:25
Yes there could be a much more effective way to run a country, if you ran a business in the same way as we run the country it would be a total disaster.
It is not gong to change until the motivation is there for the MPs to start acting differently. At the moment their only incentive is to get voted in again next time, and maybe get themselves a more important job.
Exactly this. They talk about supporting businesses then watch them rot. They sit as overpaid executives on boards that want a Trophy Director who's covertly lobbying in government (actually they're so brazen now they've stopped doing that) who's got no f*cking clue how to run the business of which they are a board member. The motivation of our state employees should be to help its citizens. Not just the ones who voted for their party or brand of politics. All of us.
Citizen's Nephew
07-07-22, 09:28
Enough of this Tory debauchery....when are we seeing our new kit?!
:hehe: I'd welcome some diversion. I'm never going to complain about sh*t football ever again!
I've said before I'm totally done with political parties and prefer direct activism these days.
Parliament needs to work together. Get the brightest and best of all parties and sort the mess out. I cringed earlier this week listening to Starmer. I cringe listening to all political party leaders. Labour needs to work with everyone else and stop this idea of a party 'winning' an election but remember that each MP is representing real people with real problems in the real world. Westminster is not fit for purpose.
They fail with their basic duty of care. They'd be fired in the world I live in.
100%
Under the current system, less than half the electorate can vote a party into a landslide victory.
Even in Blair's first election I think Labour got well under half the votes.
Some are calling for proportional rep in elections - why shouldn't the government appoint a cabinet according to the % of votes?
The way we have now sees us swinging from right to left snd back every few years.
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