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Anyone else notice, that every time he caught the ball (about 3 times I think), he walked to the edge of the goal area, whilst bouncing the ball !!!!
Totally against the rules, but the ref or opposing players never pulled him up on it.
Isn't the only rule these days that you have six seconds, which is rarely enforced, to get rid once it is in your (goalkeeper's) hands?
Anyone else notice, that every time he caught the ball (about 3 times I think), he walked to the edge of the goal area, whilst bouncing the ball !!!!
Totally against the rules, but the ref or opposing players never pulled him up on it.
Which part of the laws of football says he can't bounce the ball?
Isn't the only rule these days that you have six seconds, which is rarely enforced, to get rid once it is in your (goalkeeper's) hands?
That's the only law that I could find that Tony might be referring to.
It also says an indirect free kick is awarded if " the goal keeper touches the ball with the hand/arm after releasing it and before it has touched another player', but bouncing it isn't releasing it. The laws go on to say " A goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball with the hand(s) when:
the ball is between the hands or between the hand and any surface (e.g. ground, own body) or by touching it with any part of the hands or arms except if the ball rebounds from the goalkeeper or the goalkeeper has made a save
holding the ball in the outstretched open hand
bouncing it on the ground or throwing it in the air
A goalkeeper cannot be challenged by an opponent when in control of the ball with the hand(s).'
Which part of the laws of football says he can't bounce the ball?
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=is+a+goalkeeper+allowed+to+bounce+the+bal l&client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&source=hp&ei=y4IGZNWVMJ6BhbIPsbSe4AQ&oq=is+a+goalk&gs_lcp=ChFtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1ocBABGAIyBQgAEIAEMgU IABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAE IAEMgYIABAWEB46BQgpEIAEOgoIKRCxAxCDARBDOggIKRCxAxC DAToFCCkQoAE6AggpOgsIKRCABBDHARCvAToICCkQgAQQsQM6C wgpEIAEELEDEIMBOggIKRCABBDJAzoOCC4QjwEQ6gIQjAMQ5QI 6DggAEI8BEOoCEIwDEOUCOgsIKRCABBDHARDRAzoLCCkQgwEQs QMQgAQ6CwgAEIAEELEDEIMBOggIABCABBCxAzoOCC4QgAQQsQM QxwEQ0QM6EQguEIAEELEDEMcBENEDENQCOgoIABCABBBGEPkBO gsILhCABBDHARCvAToFCC4QgAQ6CwguEIAEELEDEIMBOggIABC xAxCDAToICAAQgAQQyQNKBQg-EgExSgUIPxIBMUoFCD4SATFKBQg_EgExSgUIPhIBMUoFCD8SAT FKBQg-EgExSgUIPxIBMUoFCD4SATFKBQg_EgExSgUIExIBNVC5wQFYs4 ACYJyTAmgMcAB4AIABRogBqgWSAQIxMZgBAKABAbABHg&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-hp
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Harry Paget Flashman
07-03-23, 00:40
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https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=is+a+goalkeeper+allowed+to+bounce+the+bal l&client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&source=hp&ei=y4IGZNWVMJ6BhbIPsbSe4AQ&oq=is+a+goalk&gs_lcp=ChFtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1ocBABGAIyBQgAEIAEMgU IABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAE IAEMgYIABAWEB46BQgpEIAEOgoIKRCxAxCDARBDOggIKRCxAxC DAToFCCkQoAE6AggpOgsIKRCABBDHARCvAToICCkQgAQQsQM6C wgpEIAEELEDEIMBOggIKRCABBDJAzoOCC4QjwEQ6gIQjAMQ5QI 6DggAEI8BEOoCEIwDEOUCOgsIKRCABBDHARDRAzoLCCkQgwEQs QMQgAQ6CwgAEIAEELEDEIMBOggIABCABBCxAzoOCC4QgAQQsQM QxwEQ0QM6EQguEIAEELEDEMcBENEDENQCOgoIABCABBBGEPkBO gsILhCABBDHARCvAToFCC4QgAQ6CwguEIAEELEDEIMBOggIABC xAxCDAToICAAQgAQQyQNKBQg-EgExSgUIPxIBMUoFCD4SATFKBQg_EgExSgUIPhIBMUoFCD8SAT FKBQg-EgExSgUIPxIBMUoFCD4SATFKBQg_EgExSgUIExIBNVC5wQFYs4 ACYJyTAmgMcAB4AIABRogBqgWSAQIxMZgBAKABAbABHg&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-hp
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The 'how many times' thing comes from the rules for indoor football in America.
splott parker
07-03-23, 07:08
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=is+a+goalkeeper+allowed+to+bounce+the+bal l&client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&source=hp&ei=y4IGZNWVMJ6BhbIPsbSe4AQ&oq=is+a+goalk&gs_lcp=ChFtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1ocBABGAIyBQgAEIAEMgU IABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAE IAEMgYIABAWEB46BQgpEIAEOgoIKRCxAxCDARBDOggIKRCxAxC DAToFCCkQoAE6AggpOgsIKRCABBDHARCvAToICCkQgAQQsQM6C wgpEIAEELEDEIMBOggIKRCABBDJAzoOCC4QjwEQ6gIQjAMQ5QI 6DggAEI8BEOoCEIwDEOUCOgsIKRCABBDHARDRAzoLCCkQgwEQs QMQgAQ6CwgAEIAEELEDEIMBOggIABCABBCxAzoOCC4QgAQQsQM QxwEQ0QM6EQguEIAEELEDEMcBENEDENQCOgoIABCABBBGEPkBO gsILhCABBDHARCvAToFCC4QgAQ6CwguEIAEELEDEIMBOggIABC xAxCDAToICAAQgAQQyQNKBQg-EgExSgUIPxIBMUoFCD4SATFKBQg_EgExSgUIPhIBMUoFCD8SAT FKBQg-EgExSgUIPxIBMUoFCD4SATFKBQg_EgExSgUIExIBNVC5wQFYs4 ACYJyTAmgMcAB4AIABRogBqgWSAQIxMZgBAKABAbABHg&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-hp
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Isn’t that ‘Indoor Soccer Rules & Policies’. As soon as you see the word ‘Soccer’ you know it’s an American law.
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Weird way to share a link, but when Iooked at what I presume is the one you're talking about, it says:
There is no limit to how many times a goalkeeper can bounce the ball in soccer
And also in that article is this bizarre claim:
only rare cases of players being taken out of games due to injury have ever been reported in the history of soccer.
When was the last time you seen a goalkeeper bounce the ball, all the way to the edge of their area ?
They just walk with it these days
When was the last time you seen a goalkeeper bounce the ball, all the way to the edge of their area ?
They just walk with it these days
What are you saying in this thread?
That goalies can carry the ball to the edge of the area, but walking while bouncing it is totally against the rules?
What are you saying in this thread?
That goalies can carry the ball to the edge of the area, but walking while bouncing it is totally against the rules?
Yes
They are only allowed to release the ball once
Yes
They are only allowed to release the ball once
https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct
A goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball with the hand(s) when:
the ball is between the hands or between the hand and any surface (e.g. ground, own body) or by touching it with any part of the hands or arms except if the ball rebounds from the goalkeeper or the goalkeeper has made a save
holding the ball in the outstretched open hand
bouncing it on the ground or throwing it in the air
https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct
A goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball with the hand(s) when:
the ball is between the hands or between the hand and any surface (e.g. ground, own body) or by touching it with any part of the hands or arms except if the ball rebounds from the goalkeeper or the goalkeeper has made a save
holding the ball in the outstretched open hand
bouncing it on the ground or throwing it in the air
I repeat:—— when was the last time you saw a goalkeeper bouncing the ball.
If they roll it out in front of them, they are not allowed to pick it back up, releasing it by bouncing is deemed the same, otherwise they’d happerly bounce away to their heart’s content
splott parker
07-03-23, 10:21
I repeat:—— when was the last time you saw a goalkeeper bouncing the ball.
If they roll it out in front of them, they are not allowed to pick it back up, releasing it by bouncing is deemed the same, otherwise they’d happerly bounce away to their heart’s content
They couldn’t, bouncing it is deemed ‘in possession’ and the six second law applies.
I repeat:—— when was the last time you saw a goalkeeper bouncing the ball.
If they roll it out in front of them, they are not allowed to pick it back up, releasing it by bouncing is deemed the same, otherwise they’d happerly bounce away to their heart’s content
No its not deemed the same.
I repeat:—— when was the last time you saw a goalkeeper bouncing the ball.
If they roll it out in front of them, they are not allowed to pick it back up, releasing it by bouncing is deemed the same, otherwise they’d happerly bounce away to their heart’s content
My god, I've just posted the actual laws that say bouncing is not deemed the same :hehe:
I put it in bold!!!
Tito Fuente
07-03-23, 10:28
My god, I've just posted the actual laws that say bouncing is not deemed the same :hehe:
I put it in bold!!!
What about bouncing the ball on the ground though?!
My god, I've just posted the actual laws that say bouncing is not deemed the same :hehe:
I put it in bold!!!
You’re reading it wrong :hehe:
ManBearPig
07-03-23, 10:53
Isnt the lack of bouncing from the pros just an experience thing?
- it could get kicked away from the opposition when it is in the air (although not sure if that is allowed any more?!)
- It could hit a random divot and go somewhere else - why risk it?
Here
A goalkeeper has three (3) steps to put it back the ball in play, once they have picked up the ball. A keeper cannot bounce the ball or put it down and pick it up again - resulting in an indirect free kick. Goalies can take 3 steps with the ball and must release it within six (6) seconds.
LA Bluebird
07-03-23, 11:05
Really interesting thread... one of those things that was the norm 20-25 years ago and has now gone away, but never really given it a thought as to why.
Here
A goalkeeper has three (3) steps to put it back the ball in play, once they have picked up the ball. A keeper cannot bounce the ball or put it down and pick it up again - resulting in an indirect free kick. Goalies can take 3 steps with the ball and must release it within six (6) seconds.
That comes from American indoor court soccer site, FFS :hehe:
https://www.uaf.edu/recreation/files/intramurals/REVISED-Indoor-Soccer-Rules-2015.pdf
The opposition can't kick the ball away while the goalkeeper is bouncing it because the goalie hasn't yet released the ball
splott parker
07-03-23, 13:22
Here
A goalkeeper has three (3) steps to put it back the ball in play, once they have picked up the ball. A keeper cannot bounce the ball or put it down and pick it up again - resulting in an indirect free kick. Goalies can take 3 steps with the ball and must release it within six (6) seconds.
That’s American indoor ‘soccer’ ‘rules’.
That’s American indoor ‘soccer’ ‘rules’.
Who’s side are you on :hehe:
You and I can both remember the 4 paces rule, then bounce
Bobby Dandruff
07-03-23, 14:20
Anyone else notice, that every time he caught the ball (about 3 times I think), he walked to the edge of the goal area, whilst bouncing the ball !!!!
Totally against the rules, but the ref or opposing players never pulled him up on it.
I noticed it but only because bouncing the ball like that seemed quite old fashioned and the sort of thing that keepers used to do in the 1970s.
Anyone else notice, that every time he caught the ball (about 3 times I think), he walked to the edge of the goal area, whilst bouncing the ball !!!!
Totally against the rules, but the ref or opposing players never pulled him up on it.
You're thinking of basketball.
You're thinking of basketball.
No I’m not
I’d be grateful our goalie can actually hold it without fumbling or dropping it completely
You're thinking of basketball.
😀
splott parker
07-03-23, 18:04
Who’s side are you on :hehe:
You and I can both remember the 4 paces rule, then bounce
Green woollen roll neck jumpers, cloth caps and marking the centre of the goal up to the edge of the area with their studs:hehe:
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1931: the keeper may take up to four steps (rather than two) while carrying the ball.[14]
Who’s laughing now
Bouncing the soccer ball is a holdover from olden days where a goalkeeper was able to move in the penalty area if they bounced the ball (similar to a basketball dribble).
splott parker
07-03-23, 18:06
1931: the keeper may take up to four steps (rather than two) while carrying the ball.[14]
Who’s laughing now
19.31? It’s only 18.06!!!
19.31? It’s only 18.06!!!
Shirley you can remember the 4 step rule
splott parker
07-03-23, 18:20
Shirley you can remember the 4 step rule
Of course I do, goalies would do more bouncing than those f*ckers on the door of the Top Rank!!
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