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Taffy Blue in Berkshire
21-04-23, 17:49
Good to see the nutters who scaled the bridge and caused mayhem are going to do bird.
Yes we need to take action to reduce emissions and become less dependent on fossil fuels but you need everyone on board and not to p1ss people off.
Good to see the nutters who scaled the bridge and caused mayhem are going to do bird.
Yes we need to take action to reduce emissions and become less dependent on fossil fuels but you need everyone on board and not to p1ss people off.
I'll be honest. I have some sympathy with the protests. I mean we have tried almost everything else to make people realize humanity faces and existential crisis. The people involved will have the status of the suffragettes in 50 years if humans still exist.
Wales-Bales
21-04-23, 21:54
I'll be honest. I have some sympathy with the protests. I mean we have tried almost everything else to make people realize humanity faces and existential crisis. The people involved will have the status of the suffragettes in 50 years if humans still exist.Playing the devils advocate, what if the climate crisis isn't as bad as what they are making it out to be? The same people got a lot of covid wrong.
an alternative view from real scientists not the WEF puppets that control the media
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Former UK MEP, Godfrey Bloom, breaks down the totalitarian Net Zero scam in layman's terms.<br><br>Original video: <a href="https://t.co/qWs4ZirAmS">https://t.co/qWs4ZirAmS</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ClimateScam?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ClimateScam</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ClimateCult?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ClimateCult</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NetZero?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NetZero</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Agenda21?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Agenda21</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Agenda2030?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Agenda2030</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GreatReset?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GreatReset</a> <a href="https://t.co/uOIfrHRatO">pic.twitter.com/uOIfrHRatO</a></p>— Wide Awake Media (@wideawake_media) <a href="https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1647162092716425217?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 15, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Wales-Bales
21-04-23, 22:12
an alternative view from real scientists not the WEF puppets that control the media
Former UK MEP, Godfrey Bloom, breaks down the totalitarian Net Zero scam in layman's terms.
Original video: https://t.co/qWs4ZirAmS#ClimateScam (https://twitter.com/hashtag/ClimateScam?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) #ClimateCult (https://twitter.com/hashtag/ClimateCult?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) #NetZero (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NetZero?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) #Agenda21 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Agenda21?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) #Agenda2030 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Agenda2030?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) #GreatReset (https://twitter.com/hashtag/GreatReset?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) pic.twitter.com/uOIfrHRatO (https://t.co/uOIfrHRatO)
— Wide Awake Media (@wideawake_media) April 15, 2023 (https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1647162092716425217?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) <script async="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Cui bono?
more scientists having there say
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">500 scientists declare no climate emergency. Letter sent to UN .. It’s one of the biggest scams in history all for the agenda .. Have a watch and share please <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ClimateScam?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ClimateScam</a> <a href="https://t.co/PtIkR66zcM">pic.twitter.com/PtIkR66zcM</a></p>— Sean collins (@SeanCollins66) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanCollins66/status/1646583183348039681?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Wales-Bales
21-04-23, 22:26
more scientists having there say
500 scientists declare no climate emergency. Letter sent to UN .. It’s one of the biggest scams in history all for the agenda .. Have a watch and share please #ClimateScam (https://twitter.com/hashtag/ClimateScam?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) pic.twitter.com/PtIkR66zcM (https://t.co/PtIkR66zcM)
— Sean collins (@SeanCollins66) April 13, 2023 (https://twitter.com/SeanCollins66/status/1646583183348039681?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
<script async="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>While covid had people on the ropes, the climate regulations will deliver the knockout blow, and I don't think the majority of people have realised that yet. Interesting times ahead ...
new york going flat out to appease Klaus
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New York Mayor Eric Adams declares war on meat and dairy to save the planet !<br>We see what your doing Mike ��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/waronnutition?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#waronnutition</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/waronfood?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#waronfood</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/waronfarming?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#waronfarming</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NoFarmersNoFood?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NoFarmersNoFood</a> <a href="https://t.co/jHAbUoFt0k">pic.twitter.com/jHAbUoFt0k</a></p>— Irish Farmers,Food & Family Channel ( Telegram ) (@IreFarmers) <a href="https://twitter.com/IreFarmers/status/1649361452279406593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 21, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
JamesWales
21-04-23, 22:39
Good to see the nutters who scaled the bridge and caused mayhem are going to do bird.
Yes we need to take action to reduce emissions and become less dependent on fossil fuels but you need everyone on board and not to p1ss people off.
Good to see.
JamesWales
21-04-23, 22:41
The difference is that the suffragettes were fighting for the right to have a voice and a vote.
The green movement has that voice. They stand for elections, and frequently fail to get elected because they cannot balance the need to be environmentally sustainable with the need to be economically and socially sustainable also.
The difference is that the suffragettes were fighting for the right to have a voice and a vote.
The green movement has that voice. They stand for elections, and frequently fail to get elected because they cannot balance the need to be environmentally sustainable with the need to be economically and socially sustainable also.
That's idiocy. Do you know what "existential" actually means?
The difference is that the suffragettes were fighting for the right to have a voice and a vote.
The green movement has that voice. They stand for elections, and frequently fail to get elected because they cannot balance the need to be environmentally sustainable with the need to be economically and socially sustainable also.
BTW, thanks for the usual one-eyed establishment bore.
Here come the climate change deniers.
I've asked the climate change deniers on here this question multiple times and to nobodies shock they cannot answer.
Here it is.
Can you describe the physical process which scientists say is causing man made climate change, what is it about that process you disagree with?
I guarantee not one denier can answer this, they're up there with flat earthers.
The difference is that the suffragettes were fighting for the right to have a voice and a vote.
The green movement has that voice. They stand for elections, and frequently fail to get elected because they cannot balance the need to be environmentally sustainable with the need to be economically and socially sustainable also.
This is mental.
Climate change is going to cost far far more and we will need to take much more drastic action if we don't do anything now. We could have solved this 40 years ago with nuclear energy but we chose not to because guess who funds the government... oil.
****ing enlightened centrists.
I'll be honest. I have some sympathy with the protests. I mean we have tried almost everything else to make people realize humanity faces and existential crisis. The people involved will have the status of the suffragettes in 50 years if humans still exist.
If humans still exist:hehe:. I’m sure the banks think they will what with 40 year mortgages being available :hehe:
Here’s a timeline
1960’s - Oil Gone in 10 years
1970’s - Another Ice Age in 10 years
1980’s - Acid Rain will destroy all crops
1990’s - The Ozone Layer will be gone in 10 years
2000’s - Ice Caps will be gone
I know one thing most of these predictions ( computer modelling) has resulted in more taxes.
If humans still exist:hehe:. I’m sure the banks think they will what with 40 year mortgages being available :hehe:
Here’s a timeline
1960’s - Oil Gone in 10 years
1970’s - Another Ice Age in 10 years
1980’s - Acid Rain will destroy all crops
1990’s - The Ozone Layer will be gone in 10 years
2000’s - Ice Caps will be gone
I know one thing most of these predictions ( computer modelling) has resulted in more taxes.
The ozone layer didn't go because humanity worked together to stop emissions of chemicals. This is something we aren't doing really for climate change.
The ice caps are melting at a rapid rate. We will see summers without any Ice in the north pole in my lifetime.
Oceans and lakes are acidifying, the effects of that will be catastrophic.
Is it any wonder why gen z and millenials are so so frustrated with boomers?
the other bob wilson
22-04-23, 07:20
I've asked the climate change deniers on here this question multiple times and to nobodies shock they cannot answer.
Here it is.
Can you describe the physical process which scientists say is causing man made climate change, what is it about that process you disagree with?
I guarantee not one denier can answer this, they're up there with flat earthers.
Bit harsh that, I'm sure they'll get round to answering your question eventually, just give them a decade or two.
JamesWales
22-04-23, 07:56
BTW, thanks for the usual one-eyed establishment bore.
It's not being an establishment bore. Quite the opposite, I am nothing of the sort.
It's just pointing out that I think your analogy was really quite bad. Youve come back anf ignored the points and played the man as usual
JamesWales
22-04-23, 08:02
This is mental.
Climate change is going to cost far far more and we will need to take much more drastic action if we don't do anything now. We could have solved this 40 years ago with nuclear energy but we chose not to because guess who funds the government... oil.
****ing enlightened centrists.
It's not mental. What I've said is correct.
Whatever the rights and wrongs of the green movement, they aren't suffragettes. The suffragettes were fighting for the right to speak. The green movement (like every one) has that right.
And it is true that any political movement has to be economically and socially sustainable too - or else it will lose support.
That's why it's often pretty frustrating when you look at the people who spearhead these movements who have all the zeal, pomp and self importance of a Victorian missionary, but fundementally don't care about people in the here and now.
You need to have both to succeed. It no use just telling us we are all going to die if we don't listen to you, because even if that is true, it will just lead to less people listening to you.
It's not mental. What I've said is correct.
Whatever the rights and wrongs of the green movement, they aren't suffragettes. The suffragettes were fighting for the right to speak. The green movement (like every one) has that right.
And it is true that any political movement has to be economically and socially sustainable too - or else it will lose support.
That's why it's often pretty frustrating when you look at the people who spearhead these movements who have all the zeal, pomp and self importance of a Victorian missionary, but fundementally don't care about people in the here and now.
You need to have both to succeed. It no use just telling us we are all going to die if we don't listen to you, because even if that is true, it will just lead to less people listening to you.
1. Climate change isn’t happening
2. Climate change is happening but it’s not caused by humans
3. Climate change is happening caused by humans but no big deal
4. Climate change is happening caused by humans but the economy is more important / China or India have carbon emissions
5. Climate change is happening and is a big deal but it’s too late to do anything about it
You're on stage four Jimbo.
JamesWales
22-04-23, 08:49
1. Climate change isn’t happening
2. Climate change is happening but it’s not caused by humans
3. Climate change is happening caused by humans but no big deal
4. Climate change is happening caused by humans but the economy is more important / China or India have carbon emissions
5. Climate change is happening and is a big deal but it’s too late to do anything about it
You're on stage four Jimbo.
No, I entirely believe climate change is happening, and is a really important issue, and it should be taken forward by sensible people not by Hooray Henry's glueing themselves to the trains and bridges people use to go about their lives.
[QUOTE=Doucas;5414036]This is mental.
[Climate change is going to cost far far more and we will need to take much more drastic action if we don't do anything now. We could have solved this 40 years ago with nuclear energy but we chose not to because guess who funds the government... oil.
****ing enlightened centrists]
Centrists- right wingers too cowardly to admit they are right wingers.?
JamesWales
22-04-23, 09:18
[QUOTE=Doucas;5414036]This is mental.
[Climate change is going to cost far far more and we will need to take much more drastic action if we don't do anything now. We could have solved this 40 years ago with nuclear energy but we chose not to because guess who funds the government... oil.
****ing enlightened centrists]
Centrists- right wingers too cowardly to admit they are right wingers.?
What's your "left wing" approach to addressing climate change, Hilts?
Wales-Bales
22-04-23, 09:28
1. Climate change isn’t happening
2. Climate change is happening but it’s not caused by humans
3. Climate change is happening caused by humans but no big deal
4. Climate change is happening caused by humans but the economy is more important / China or India have carbon emissions
5. Climate change is happening and is a big deal but it’s too late to do anything about it
You're on stage four Jimbo.Climate change has been happening in recurring warming and cooling cycles since the world began, and long before humans set foot on the planet.
The ozone layer didn't go because humanity worked together to stop emissions of chemicals. This is something we aren't doing really for climate change.
The ice caps are melting at a rapid rate. We will see summers without any Ice in the north pole in my lifetime.
Oceans and lakes are acidifying, the effects of that will be catastrophic.
Is it any wonder why gen z and millenials are so so frustrated with boomers?
According to the modelling its appears this may be the case, but it’s modelling. They said the Great Barrier Reef would disappear however contrary to the modelling it’s thriving.
10 polluters
China, with more than 10,065 million tons of CO2 released.
United States, with 5,416 million tons of CO2.
India, with 2,654 million tons of CO2.
Russia, with 1,711 million tons of CO2.
Japan, 1,162 million tons of CO2.
Germany, 759 million tons of CO2.
Iran, 720 million tons of CO2.
These are the countries that we need to focus on before we take drastic action here.
I've asked the climate change deniers on here this question multiple times and to nobodies shock they cannot answer.
Here it is.
Can you describe the physical process which scientists say is causing man made climate change, what is it about that process you disagree with?
I guarantee not one denier can answer this, they're up there with flat earthers.
Still waiting for an answer to this. I know you deniers have seen it.
JamesWales
22-04-23, 09:52
Still waiting for an answer to this. I know you deniers have seen it.
You probably framed the question wrong. It's like asking everyone if they have stopped beating their wife yet.
To answer the question is to be a climate denier. Very few are.
What is the case is that some people probably have different opinions to you on how to best deal with it.
For example, if you don't think people should be prosecuted for vandalism or serious disruption to others lives, I would suggest you are setting back the climate agenda, not helping it. That's a reasonable position and is taken with a firm belief that man made climate change is real.
Because there are no easy answers. Why don't you propose 5 thing you would like to happen to help address climate change?
You probably framed the question wrong. It's like asking everyone if they have stopped beating their wife yet.
To answer the question is to be a climate denier. Very few are.
What is the case is that some people probably have different opinions to you on how to best deal with it.
For example, if you don't think people should be prosecuted for vandalism or serious disruption to others lives, I would suggest you are setting back the climate agenda, not helping it. That's a reasonable position and is taken with a firm belief that man made climate change is real.
Because there are no easy answers. Why don't you propose 5 thing you would like to happen to help address climate change?
There are people in this thread who are climate change deniers though.
1. Replace the majority of our energy supply with Nuclear Power Stations, this should have been done in the 80s/90s/2000s, this is one of the things I actually agree with Thatcher on
2. Massive investment in public transport and cycling infrastructure over cars
3. Worldwide effort into Fusion technology
4. Worldwide effort into carbon capture technology in the air and via the oceans. You might think this is a pie in the sky idea but the oceans are acidifying, the consequences of this left unchecked are devastating, human civilisation suffer badly.
5. Plant about a trillion trees
A lot these are easier said than done, three should have been done already, two we're just making token efforts really. The longer we wait the more painful the economic consequences.
JamesWales
22-04-23, 11:09
There are people in this thread who are climate change deniers though.
1. Replace the majority of our energy supply with Nuclear Power Stations, this should have been done in the 80s/90s/2000s, this is one of the things I actually agree with Thatcher on
2. Massive investment in public transport and cycling infrastructure over cars
3. Worldwide effort into Fusion technology
4. Worldwide effort into carbon capture technology in the air and via the oceans. You might think this is a pie in the sky idea but the oceans are acidifying, the consequences of this left unchecked are devastating, human civilisation suffer badly.
5. Plant about a trillion trees
A lot these are easier said than done, three should have been done already, two we're just making token efforts really. The longer we wait the more painful the economic consequences.
I largely agree, although I'm not sure what 'effort into' entails.
Real big mistake of Germany to get rid of nuclear. I must say I have never really understood the greens vehement opposition to it, which I think has lessened in time.
I'm not really anti car either. I'd welcome far more focus on how we are actually using energy, our reliance on phones, global supply chains, 'next day delivery', things like that that really add.
I know so many people who think they are green but they really aren't.
I largely agree, although I'm not sure what 'effort into' entails.
Real big mistake of Germany to get rid of nuclear. I must say I have never really understood the greens vehement opposition to it, which I think has lessened in time.
I'm not really anti car either. I'd welcome far more focus on how we are actually using energy, our reliance on phones, global supply chains, 'next day delivery', things like that that really add.
I know so many people who think they are green but they really aren't.
Like this person - hmmmmm
Extinction Rebellion leader drives gas-guzzling diesel car and buys imported food from other side of world
https://www.gbnews.com/news/extinction-rebellion-leader-diesel-car-shopping
Scientists estimate that transporting food around the world accounts for approximately six per cent of the globe’s greenhouse gas emissions.
Humans alone make up about 20%
Eric Cartman
22-04-23, 13:05
It's not mental. What I've said is correct.
Whatever the rights and wrongs of the green movement, they aren't suffragettes. The suffragettes were fighting for the right to speak. The green movement (like every one) has that right.
And it is true that any political movement has to be economically and socially sustainable too - or else it will lose support.
That's why it's often pretty frustrating when you look at the people who spearhead these movements who have all the zeal, pomp and self importance of a Victorian missionary, but fundementally don't care about people in the here and now.
You need to have both to succeed. It no use just telling us we are all going to die if we don't listen to you, because even if that is true, it will just lead to less people listening to you.
So Brexit displayed economically sustainable ideas/ideals in your opinion?
Green Party suffers majorly from FPTP and just the fact that their core message makes people feel a bit guilty...
Is pollution good? Probably more a question for Mozzer than anybody else in this thread so far.
This is mental.
Climate change is going to cost far far more and we will need to take much more drastic action if we don't do anything now. We could have solved this 40 years ago with nuclear energy but we chose not to because guess who funds the government... oil.
****ing enlightened centrists.
Jimbo - a "centrist? That's funny. I liked the Chemical Ali comparison.
No, I entirely believe climate change is happening, and is a really important issue, and it should be taken forward by sensible people not by Hooray Henry's glueing themselves to the trains and bridges people use to go about their lives.
Oh, do shut up. This is yet another subject you know nothing about.
Like this person - hmmmmm
Extinction Rebellion leader drives gas-guzzling diesel car and buys imported food from other side of world
https://www.gbnews.com/news/extinction-rebellion-leader-diesel-car-shopping
Scientists estimate that transporting food around the world accounts for approximately six per cent of the globe’s greenhouse gas emissions.
Humans alone make up about 20%
GBeebies as your sauce? LOL
I gather you'll be able to "enjoy" Raab bullying people live on there soon.
According to the modelling its appears this may be the case, but it’s modelling. They said the Great Barrier Reef would disappear however contrary to the modelling it’s thriving.
10 polluters
China, with more than 10,065 million tons of CO2 released.
United States, with 5,416 million tons of CO2.
India, with 2,654 million tons of CO2.
Russia, with 1,711 million tons of CO2.
Japan, 1,162 million tons of CO2.
Germany, 759 million tons of CO2.
Iran, 720 million tons of CO2.
These are the countries that we need to focus on before we take drastic action here.
I think you'll find the GBR is improving after over a decade of decline after strenuous efforts to mitigate the negative impacts on it.
JamesWales
22-04-23, 17:16
CCMBs regular Nr Nice Guy being his usual pleasant self I see!
Wales-Bales
22-04-23, 17:50
CCMBs regular Nr Nice Guy being his usual pleasant self I see!I think he's a Biden dikklikker.
GBeebies as your sauce? LOL
I gather you'll be able to "enjoy" Raab bullying people live on there soon.
Why try and discredit facts …if GB News is incorrect can you provide a link please ?
cyril evans awaydays
22-04-23, 18:17
Like this person - hmmmmm
Extinction Rebellion leader drives gas-guzzling diesel car and buys imported food from other side of world
https://www.gbnews.com/news/extinction-rebellion-leader-diesel-car-shopping
Scientists estimate that transporting food around the world accounts for approximately six per cent of the globe’s greenhouse gas emissions.
Humans alone make up about 20%
Imagine a country deciding its trading future lies with the other side of the world against that backdrop.
By the way, this humans alone make up about 20%, can you provide a link, please?
Imagine a country deciding its trading future lies with the other side of the world against that backdrop.
By the way, this humans alone make up about 20%, can you provide a link, please?
You have more time than me , but I read it the other day , if you can provide alternative commentary, then I’d be happy to be proved wrong
As an aside , I’m all for climate change I just wish the information available through official sources was more balanced. It appears that many scientists with an alter view of what is essentially modelling appear few and far between
cyril evans awaydays
22-04-23, 18:30
You have more time than me , but I read it the other day , if you can provide alternative commentary, then I’d be happy to be proved wrong
As an aside , I’m all for climate change I just wish the information available through official sources was more balanced. It appears that many scientists with an alter view of what is essentially modelling appear few and far between
My mistake, I thought you had become enthusiastic about people providing links to support their statements. No problem.
Here come the climate change deniers.
of course its a concern when it comes to climate but i'd rather listen and observe scientists rather than the usual propaganda machine that's forced upon us every day . Noticed even the weather woman on GMTV ramming it down our throats every day at every opportunity these days too
mass formation psychosis at the heart of everything these days !
another geo scientist having there say
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Australian geologist, Ian Plimer, on the climate doomsday cult:<br><br>"Every single prediction they've ever made has been wrong. They still haven't, after 30 years, shown us that human emissions [of CO2] drive global warming."<br><br>"If you cannot show that human emissions of carbon… <a href="https://t.co/94HF2o9BoJ">pic.twitter.com/94HF2o9BoJ</a></p>— Wide Awake Media (@wideawake_media) <a href="https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1649684481878499328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
but i'd rather listen and observe scientists rather than the usual propaganda machine
This sentence is staggering.
Are you just unaware that climate change being man made is basically a slam dunk in terms of overwhelming evidence that science has provided?
another geo scientist having there say
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Australian geologist, Ian Plimer, on the climate doomsday cult:<br><br>"Every single prediction they've ever made has been wrong. They still haven't, after 30 years, shown us that human emissions [of CO2] drive global warming."<br><br>"If you cannot show that human emissions of carbon… <a href="https://t.co/94HF2o9BoJ">pic.twitter.com/94HF2o9BoJ</a></p>— Wide Awake Media (@wideawake_media) <a href="https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1649684481878499328?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Person funded by the coal mining industry says climate change isn't real shocker.
Here's a quote from this person 'we aren't emitting carbon because carbon is black and we don't see anything black come from cars'
Primary school students can tell this man is talking nonsense and you should be embarrassed you used him as 'evidence'.
This sentence is staggering.
Are you just unaware that climate change being man made is basically a slam dunk in terms of overwhelming evidence that science has provided?
I think he means he'd rather listen to the 0.1% of scientists who say what he wants to hear, than the 99.9% who don't.
Because if you're listening to the scientific community as a whole, there's only one conclusion (https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2021/10/more-999-studies-agree-humans-caused-climate-change).
Jimbo - a "centrist? That's funny. I liked the Chemical Ali comparison.
Enlightened centrist is a term for people who claim to be in the centre and look at both sides honestly.
Every time someone says this they always turn out to be very very right wing.
Here's a list of other examples of this phenomena https://www.reddit.com/r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM/top/?t=all
JamesWales
23-04-23, 08:08
Enlightened centrist is a term for people who claim to be in the centre and look at both sides honestly.
Every time someone says this they always turn out to be very very right wing.
Here's a list of other examples of this phenomena https://www.reddit.com/r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM/top/?t=all
See this is the problem with the internet. You can always find some totally random thing somewhere (in this case, Reddit) to back up some completely made up 'phenomena'.
You claim it's 'another' example of something, but perhaps you can stick to finding a single example in the first place - what have I said on here that is 'very very right wing'? You've just made it up.
Good luck finding it! What I said is that the green movement needs to be socially and economically sustainable to succeed and to take people with them. Not only is that not 'very very right wing' (if anything it's probably left of centre, because it's willing support for environmental sustainability) it also happens to be true.
You are rather making my point for me to be honest, so thanks for that!
Now, to keep this debate about planet earth firmly on planet earth, please find that example of something I've said here that is 'very very right wing'. You imply we should listen to evidence, so let's see how good you are are finding any. 👍
Also interested to know what lifestyle changes you have made to try and address climate change? Cos ranting on the internet doesn't do it.
Wales-Bales
23-04-23, 11:08
I think he means he'd rather listen to the 0.1% of scientists who say what he wants to hear, than the 99.9% who don't.
Because if you're listening to the scientific community as a whole, there's only one conclusion (https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2021/10/more-999-studies-agree-humans-caused-climate-change).100% said something was safe & effective until it wasn't.
100% said something was safe & effective until it wasn't.
5527
WB, you are essentially trying to reason with those who bent over, touched their toes, spread the brown eye as wide as possible and said no worries doc to those, and the UK Gov. equivalent of the above, and if that wasn't enough for them, went after like attack dogs, against those who said "No", they get really nasty don't they when you will not acquiesce to their FACTS!! and call anybody who doesn't a right winger as an apparent mark of shame, they currently have their ears to their Phones in anticipation of some warning this afternoon :hehe:, the bullshit claims are listed in a previous post within this thread and I'm old enough to remember and have lived through them, it's time to call bullshit bullshit, these same people denied the Biden Laptop, and backed the 50 intelligence bosses with their signed letter :hehe: went all in on Russia did it. Quite simply you are wasting your time, they love their name the calling, their EV cars, their 15 min Cities and I'm sure in the not too distant future will be telling you how tasty their cockroach sandwich is :hehe:
Not sure if I'm a conspiracist, but I've just turned my phones and tablets off, It's been a struggle on times but I've managed to get this far in life without a 30 second beep to let me know danger is ahead,
When you hear the words "we are from the government and we're here to help you" it really is time to stop and think.
I'm not a flat earther, and to an extent agree with climate changing and that humans are doing bad things not helping the environment, but I did like Musk trolling of saying his rockets cannot get past the Firmament, sent the previous blue ticks into meltdown mode :hehe:
The lack of Environmental lobby interest in the NS2 incident I see as a bit of a marker. Especially when the current Resident of Pennsylvania Avenue boldly predicted it, others within the current US government boldly predicted it, a Pulitzer prize winner has alluded to those responsible, the US military 1st on the scene to retrieve the evidence, an alternative narrative of 6 blokes in a yacht did it :hehe:
Wales-Bales
23-04-23, 14:26
5527
WB, you are essentially trying to reason with those who bent over, touched their toes, spread the brown eye as wide as possible and said no worries doc to those, and the UK Gov. equivalent of the above, and if that wasn't enough for them, went after like attack dogs, against those who said "No", they get really nasty don't they when you will not acquiesce to their FACTS!! and call anybody who doesn't a right winger as an apparent mark of shame, they currently have their ears to their Phones in anticipation of some warning this afternoon :hehe:, the bullshit claims are listed in a previous post within this thread and I'm old enough to remember and have lived through them, it's time to call bullshit bullshit, these same people denied the Biden Laptop, and backed the 50 intelligence bosses with their signed letter :hehe: went all in on Russia did it. Quite simply you are wasting your time, they love their name the calling, their EV cars, their 15 min Cities and I'm sure in the not too distant future will be telling you how tasty their cockroach sandwich is :hehe:
Not sure if I'm a conspiracist, but I've just turned my phones and tablets off, It's been a struggle on times but I've managed to get this far in life without a 30 second beep to let me know danger is ahead,
When you hear the words "we are from the government and we're here to help you" it really is time to stop and think.
I'm not a flat earther, and to an extent agree with climate changing and that humans are doing bad things not helping the environment, but I did like Musk trolling of saying his rockets cannot get past the Firmament, sent the previous blue ticks into meltdown mode :hehe:
The lack of Environmental lobby interest in the NS2 incident I see as a bit of a marker. Especially when the current Resident of Pennsylvania Avenue boldly predicted it, others within the current US government boldly predicted it, a Pulitzer prize winner has alluded to those responsible, the US military 1st on the scene to retrieve the evidence, an alternative narrative of 6 blokes in a yacht did it :hehe:It was 99.9% of those who had the desired opinion, and even some of these disputed the interpretation.
The CCP also had access to US election data, so you can tick off that conspiracy theory too.
Imagine a country deciding its trading future lies with the other side of the world against that backdrop.
By the way, this humans alone make up about 20%, can you provide a link, please?
https://www.conserve-energy-future.com/top-10-unbelievable-reasons-that-prove-global-warming-might-be-hoax.php
Bear in mind most predictions are AI.
chrisp_1927
23-04-23, 14:46
This is mental.
Climate change is going to cost far far more and we will need to take much more drastic action if we don't do anything now. We could have solved this 40 years ago with nuclear energy but we chose not to because guess who funds the government... oil.
****ing enlightened centrists.
Safety concerns by the general public, and lobbying by environmental groups has also played a part in stopping new nuclear installations. Combined with the fact that it's as expensive as fack
cyril evans awaydays
23-04-23, 14:50
https://www.conserve-energy-future.com/top-10-unbelievable-reasons-that-prove-global-warming-might-be-hoax.php
Bear in mind most predictions are AI.
Thanks for that. Which one of those 15 headlines says that only 20% of carbon emissions are down to humans? Obviously not the one about volcanoes as that has been comprehensively debunked on here previously.
Thanks for that. Which one of those 15 headlines says that only 20% of carbon emissions are down to humans? Obviously not the one about volcanoes as that has been comprehensively debunked on here previously.
I think the article covers most aspects of the alternative viewpoint.That said I won’t be voting for the Green Party in the next election, will you ?
cyril evans awaydays
23-04-23, 15:12
I think the article covers most aspects of the alternative viewpoint.That said I won’t be voting for the Green Party in the next election, will you ?
I think what you seem to value most is opinion trumps evidence, science and facts. It is a trait shared by a few posters on here. If it makes you feel that allows you insight shared by only a gifted few then plug away. Don't get a little prickly if people challenge your opinions especially when they are unsurprised if you can't back them up with evidence or fact though.
I am unlikely to vote Green but I will take environmental policies into consideration when voting. You can rest assured that any party stating that climate change comes mainly from volcanoes and not human activity will not be getting a moment's consideration!
I think what you seem to value most is opinion trumps evidence, science and facts. It is a trait shared by a few posters on here. If it makes you feel that allows you insight shared by only a gifted few then plug away. Don't get a little prickly if people challenge your opinions especially when they are unsurprised if you can't back them up with evidence or fact though.
I am unlikely to vote Green but I will take environmental policies into consideration when voting. You can rest assured that any party stating that climate change comes mainly from volcanoes and not human activity will not be getting a moment's consideration!
So apart from everything else you’re now saying you’re a climate expert are you :hehe: it’s only been the current thing since Covid (predicted by many) and it’s funny how you have jumped on it all of a sudden, but that’s what you do it’s it? As you think know everything why do you waste your energy and talents on here ?
I’m far from convinced on the modelling, and the jury is still out for me. I would offer you some advice though, once again - This is a messageboard and, shock horror, gives rise to opinions. Some are extreme; some are nonsensical; some are critical.
cyril evans awaydays
23-04-23, 15:34
So apart from everything else you’re now saying you’re a climate expert are you :hehe: it’s only been the current thing since Covid (predicted by many) and it’s funny how you have jumped on it all of a sudden, but that’s what you do it’s it? As you think know everything why do you waste your energy and talents on here ?
I’m far from convinced on the modelling, and the jury is still out for me. I would offer you some advice though, once again - This is a messageboard and, shock horror, gives rise to opinions. Some are extreme; some are nonsensical; some are critical.
Why don't we do a little test. You pick anything that the author of the article that covers most of the alternative viewpoint by Rinkesh
A true environmentalist by heart ❤️. Founded Conserve Energy Future with the sole motto of providing helpful information.
In turn I will find some scientific evidence peer reviewed before its publication in scientific journals. Anytime you are ready!
Why don't we do a little test. You pick anything that the author of the article that covers most of the alternative viewpoint by Rinkesh
A true environmentalist by heart ❤️. Founded Conserve Energy Future with the sole motto of providing helpful information.
In turn I will find some scientific evidence peer reviewed before its publication in scientific journals. Anytime you are ready!
You’re ok thanks , I think I’d prefer to look elsewhere than a football message-board if I was that interested but it’s a topic I find boring and I would find it somewhat hypocritical to be all for it considering I like my foreign holidays, quick petrol cars , wood burning stoves , steaks, fast fashion , etc
Wales-Bales
23-04-23, 15:46
So apart from everything else you’re now saying you’re a climate expert are you :hehe: it’s only been the current thing since Covid (predicted by many) and it’s funny how you have jumped on it all of a sudden, but that’s what you do it’s it? As you think know everything why do you waste your energy and talents on here ?
I’m far from convinced on the modelling, and the jury is still out for me. I would offer you some advice though, once again - This is a messageboard and, shock horror, gives rise to opinions. Some are extreme; some are nonsensical; some are critical.He was very quick to post the Fox settlement with Dominion, but then ignores the latest development where Konnech dismissed their defamation case against True The Vote after they dumped all of their data about the CCP online. I think the Russia collusion delusionist is just a troll with nothing better to do.
cyril evans awaydays
23-04-23, 15:50
You’re ok thanks , I think I’d prefer to look elsewhere than a football message-board if I was that interested but it’s a topic I find boring and I would find it somewhat hypocritical to be all for it considering I like my foreign holidays, quick petrol cars , wood burning stoves , steaks, fast fashion , etc
No problem. "I might have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those pesky facts"
cyril evans awaydays
23-04-23, 15:57
He was very quick to post the Fox settlement with Dominion, but then ignores the latest development where Konnech dismissed their defamation case against True The Vote after they dumped all of their data about the CCP online. I think the Russia collusion delusionist is just a troll with nothing better to do.
Ok. I'll play.
The Dominion settlement of three quarter of billion dollars was because Fox knowingly trumpeted false accusations that Dominion servers were set up in Venezuela to alter millions of votes. Rather than the unedifying spectacle of Murdoch, Hannity and Carlson having their bubble burst on the witness stand they folded out of court. Guiiani and Sidney Powell will no doubt be next in line.
You are looking for some kind of equivalence of a company that only keeps details of election workers being proof that the election was stolen, right?
No problem. "I might have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those pesky facts"
How do you know they are facts when it’s assumptions and models ? The fundamentals of a debate is not to ignore the facts that are against what you believe in.
cyril evans awaydays
23-04-23, 16:10
How do you know they are facts when it’s assumptions and models ? The fundamentals of a debate is not to ignore the facts that are against what you believe in.
That's why I offered to look at what you think are the most compelling alternative opinions in the article you provided and look at any evidence to the contrary. Lots of things are not predictions and models they are actually measured. Nothing to do with beliefs!
Wales-Bales
23-04-23, 17:05
Ok. I'll play.
The Dominion settlement of three quarter of billion dollars was because Fox knowingly trumpeted false accusations that Dominion servers were set up in Venezuela to alter millions of votes. Rather than the unedifying spectacle of Murdoch, Hannity and Carlson having their bubble burst on the witness stand they folded out of court. Guiiani and Sidney Powell will no doubt be next in line.
You are looking for some kind of equivalence of a company that only keeps details of election workers being proof that the election was stolen, right?It took 30TB of data to record the details of the election workers? :sherlock:
It was 99.9% of those who had the desired opinion, and even some of these disputed the interpretation.
The CCP also had access to US election data, so you can tick off that conspiracy theory too.
Lets tick off another conspiracy :hehe:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Remember that time when <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HillaryClinton?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HillaryClinton</a> introduced her friend <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GeorgeSoros?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GeorgeSoros</a> and his interest to get involved in US elections?<br><br>The Internet sure doesn't.<br><br>Why?<br><br>Because it has been wiped from existence for the most part. Turns out I found a copy of the file I had archived years… <a href="https://t.co/mjGIUyCrIz">pic.twitter.com/mjGIUyCrIz</a></p>— AwakenedOutlaw⚒️ (@AwakenedOutlaw) <a href="https://twitter.com/AwakenedOutlaw/status/1650035974611812354?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
cyril evans awaydays
23-04-23, 18:12
It took 30TB of data to record the details of the election workers? :sherlock:
Based on the "gotcha" from your old friend the Conservative Treehouse the 30TB of data was posted by the plaintiffs on an open source website.
Without using platitudes and emojis explain why this somehow invalidated or undermined the 2020 US Presidential Election!
Wales-Bales
23-04-23, 18:18
Based on the "gotcha" from your old friend the Conservative Treehouse the 30TB of data was posted by the plaintiffs on an open source website.
Without using platitudes and emojis explain why this somehow invalidated or undermined the 2020 US Presidential Election!I got it from the source you muppet, and I posted it before any news organisation or website got hold of the story. You really need to take a break for your own good.
https://open.ink/konnech
cyril evans awaydays
23-04-23, 18:28
I got it from the source you muppet, and I posted it before any news organisation or website got hold of the story. You really need to take a break for your own good.
https://open.ink/konnech
Yeah right, having reviewed the 30TB of open source data which bits do you think invalidate the 2020 election?
Wales-Bales
23-04-23, 18:43
Yeah right, having reviewed the 30TB of open source data which bits do you think invalidate the 2020 election?Haven't seen any of it, just read their news release and watched the video which said law enforcement officials has a copy of the 30TB of data.
I’m far from convinced on the modelling
Pray tell what actual substantive critiques do you offer?
How do you know they are facts when it’s assumptions and models ? The fundamentals of a debate is not to ignore the facts that are against what you believe in.
The facts clearly show climate change is real. Science is not a belief system. That's actually exactly what it isn't.
The facts clearly show climate change is real. Science is not a belief system. That's actually exactly what it isn't.
I hope you have reduced your carbon footprint accordingly.
From memory I don’t think I saw any discussion on this subject until it pivoted from Covid to Climate Change, strange that
How do you know they are facts when it’s assumptions and models ? The fundamentals of a debate is not to ignore the facts that are against what you believe in.
For the 10th time on this forum answer this.
What is the physical process that scientists say cause man made climate change, what is it about that process you think is wrong?
For the 10th time on this forum answer this.
What is the physical process that scientists say cause man made climate change, what is it about that process you think is wrong?
Before I answer Im not planning to make any significant changes as it would be hypocritical , how are you going to reduce yours ?
I think they way we live as a species is massively damaging to the planet , industrial pollution, water pollution, air pollution, destruction of natural habitat, destruction of wildlife, missile testing (Ukraine etc)
rubbish waste and so on.
I just don’t think the politicians in charge have any intention of addressing any of the real issues and are simply looking to put in new methods of control.
Eg, replacement a fossil fuel vehicle to a battery powered vehicle.
Wouldn’t it be better to get rid of personal cars altogether and implement shared car schemes , make it easier for cyclists ( bike storage , cycle infrastructure etc - not just a few bollards or red paint on a road, ensure significant investment in public transport and make rail transport affordable etc etc
Before I answer Im not planning to make any significant changes as it would be hypocritical , how are you going to reduce yours ?
So you can't answer then. If you can't answer it how can you think you know better than scientists and say it isn't happening?
I've decided not to have kids. I pay for trees to be planted every month and will sooner or later pay to get several giant sequoia which will eliminate my life time emissions.
So you can't answer then. If you can't answer it how can you think you know better than scientists and say it isn't happening?
I've decided not to have kids. I pay for trees to be planted every month and will sooner or later pay to get several giant sequoia which will eliminate my life time emissions.
I assume you’re joking when you have decided not to have kids for the sake of climate change ?
cyril evans awaydays
24-04-23, 13:32
I think they way we live as a species is massively damaging to the planet , industrial pollution, water pollution, air pollution, destruction of natural habitat, destruction of wildlife, missile testing (Ukraine etc)
rubbish waste and so on.
I just don’t think the politicians in charge have any intention of addressing any of the real issues and are simply looking to put in new methods of control.
Eg, replacement a fossil fuel vehicle to a battery powered vehicle.
Wouldn’t it be better to get rid of personal cars altogether and implement shared car schemes , make it easier for cyclists ( bike storage , cycle infrastructure etc - not just a few bollards or red paint on a road, ensure significant investment in public transport and make rail transport affordable etc etc
Yesterday's opinion was that humans are only responsible for 20% of carbon emissions, today our species is massively damaging the planet. At this rate of opinion change you will be Chairing the Barry Branch of Extinction Rebellion's Action Committee by the weekend!
Wales-Bales
24-04-23, 13:42
I assume you’re joking when you have decided not to have kids for the sake of climate change ?I think one Doucas in the world is more than enough! :biggrin:
Yesterday's opinion was that humans are only responsible for 20% of carbon emissions, today our species is massively damaging the planet. At this rate of opinion change you will be Chairing the Barry Branch of Extinction Rebellion's Action Committee by the weekend!
My opinion has never changed, I just think the data is open to question which appears reasonable enough, I can see you’re upset as I’m all for it.
cyril evans awaydays
24-04-23, 14:17
My opinion has never changed, I just think the data is open to question which appears reasonable enough, I can see you’re upset as I’m all for it.
What's your unwavering opinion?
What's your unwavering opinion?
I don’t know enough about it really, but it’s not binary.I’ve suggested what I would do if I had any influence and my family are close to carbon neutral without being freaky about it.
cyril evans awaydays
24-04-23, 14:27
I don’t know enough about it really, but it’s not binary.I’ve suggested what I would do if I had any influence and my family are close to carbon neutral without being freaky about it.
Yesterday you said this.
You’re ok thanks , I think I’d prefer to look elsewhere than a football message-board if I was that interested but it’s a topic I find boring and I would find it somewhat hypocritical to be all for it considering I like my foreign holidays, quick petrol cars , wood burning stoves , steaks, fast fashion , etc
The rest of your family must be foraging in the back garden tethered to a post to compensate!
Yesterday you said this.
The rest of your family must be foraging in the back garden tethered to a post to compensate!
Clearly you can’t see a wind up when it hits you in the face ::hehe:
I remember years ago I voted for Rodney Burman ( Lib Dem’s) as they were the only party who were happy to keep the “ green bag” scheme free to Cardiff residents as part of their election manifesto.Funny how times change.
cyril evans awaydays
24-04-23, 15:27
Clearly you can’t see a wind up when it hits you in the face ::hehe:
I remember years ago I voted for Rodney Burman ( Lib Dem’s) as they were the only party who were happy to keep the “ green bag” scheme free to Cardiff residents as part of their election manifesto.Funny how times change.
For future reference, which of those opposing statements is the wind up?
For future reference, which of those opposing statements is the wind up?
I think even you know the odd steak and flight can still be offset by other green habits, like cycling , car ownership per household, clean heating / energy systems ,modern insulation, home working ,sensible food choices / lack of food waste etc. Oh plus we never wore masks :hehe:
cyril evans awaydays
24-04-23, 15:42
I think even you know the odd steak and flight can still be offset by other green habits, like cycling , car ownership per household, clean heating / energy systems ,modern insulation, home working ,sensible food choices / lack of food waste etc. Oh plus we never wore masks :hehe:
You, your family including your young child never wore a mask during the Covid restrictions, in schools, sporting stadiums or public places?
You, your family including your young child never wore a mask during the Covid restrictions, in schools, sporting stadiums or public places?
Nope , thank god
cyril evans awaydays
24-04-23, 16:05
Nope , thank god
So when face coverings were a requisite in Welsh schools what did you do?
So when face coverings were a requisite in Welsh schools what did you do?
We’re you a traffic warden before you retired , you ask so many questions :hehe:
My son is 6 , and it wasn’t law it was guidance only.
cyril evans awaydays
24-04-23, 16:21
We’re you a traffic warden before you retired , you ask so many questions :hehe:
My son is 6 , and it wasn’t law it was guidance only.
I'm curious that's all. Lots of us could only go into supermarkets, football grounds and kids to school by wearing a mask for a few months of the Covid period but your life carried on unchanged. Yet you are one of the people on here complaining most about the restrictions to your civil liberties.
I'm curious that's all. Lots of us could only go into supermarkets, football grounds and kids to school by wearing a mask for a few months of the Covid period but your life carried on unchanged. Yet you are one of the people on here complaining most about the restrictions to your civil liberties.
My life was far from normal , I can assure you of that. When you have parents who have dementia and other ailments who live miles away it’s not pleasant, as you can imagine.
cyril evans awaydays
24-04-23, 16:32
My life was far from normal , I can assure you of that. When you have parents who have dementia and other ailments who live miles away it’s not pleasant, as you can imagine.
I can. My Mum was/is in a care home during and after the crisis. You have also been vocal that covid restrictions should be focused on those most vulnerable.
So when you visited your parents with dementia and other ailments you didn't wear a mask, right?
Also you have a 6 year old kid, how old are your parents?
I assume you’re joking when you have decided not to have kids for the sake of climate change ?
No I'm not joking.
It's not the only factor but it's one of the major ones.
We seem incapable as a species currently of solving major problems unless it benefits the billionaire class. I think we've got about 15 years before shit really starts hitting the fan, that and the rise of authoritarianism in Western governments, extreme wealth inequality, growing poverty and housing shortages I just don't think I can provide a good life if I had any kids.
What do those in the Daily Mail comment section say? Don't have them if you can't afford them.
I've answered your question now answer mine.
What is the process scientists say is causing climate change and what about the process do you say is wrong?
I can. My Mum was/is in a care home during and after the crisis. You have also been vocal that covid restrictions should be focused on those most vulnerable.
So when you visited your parents with dementia and other ailments you didn't wear a mask, right?
No I never wore one and they never got ill either. Funny thing was lots of other people wore theme masks which had the same effect as nothing at all. Strange times indeed.
No I'm not joking.
It's not the only factor but it's one of the major ones.
We seem incapable as a species currently of solving major problems unless it benefits the billionaire class. I think we've got about 15 years before shit really starts hitting the fan, that and the rise of authoritarianism in Western governments, extreme wealth inequality, growing poverty and housing shortages I just don't think I can provide a good life if I had any kids.
What do those in the Daily Mail comment section say? Don't have them if you can't afford them
I've answered your question now answer mine.
What is the process scientists say is causing climate change and what about the process do you say is wrong?
Fair play to you on your part.I think I’ve already given you my opinion on the matter.
cyril evans awaydays
24-04-23, 17:08
No I never wore one and they never got ill either. Funny thing was lots of other people wore theme masks which had the same effect as nothing at all. Strange times indeed.
So let's pause on your CCMB id. You are a guy who has worked with the same company for 35 years, who has a 6 year old child and both your parents with dementia, yeah?
So let's pause on your CCMB id. You are a guy who has worked with the same company for 35 years, who has a 6 year old child and both your parents with dementia, yeah?
Why are you interested, seriously , and I’ve been in the same job since the YTS scheme and had my son late , my wife is younger. No further information is needed is it ?
My opinion has never changed, I just think the data is open to question which appears reasonable enough, I can see you’re upset as I’m all for it.
What "data" is open to question? Climate change is a FACT. The data collected is verifiable.
Are you suggesting the scientists involved are fabricating facts?
JamesWales
24-04-23, 18:32
Why are you interested, seriously , and I’ve been in the same job since the YTS scheme and had my son late , my wife is younger. No further information is needed is it ?
This thread has gone a bit weird tbh.
What "data" is open to question? Climate change is a FACT. The data collected is verifiable.
Are you suggesting the scientists involved are fabricating facts?
Verifiable by who funds it ?
Strange to the extreme (again)
Verifiable by who funds it ?
I work in an institution endowed/sponsored extensively by the Waltons and Wrigleys. Think mega foundations (Waltons own Walmart). If they had a bias you'd imagine it would be anti-climate change because it's disruptive to their business model. My institution collects data on climate change and its impacts. Everyone here knows climate change is a fact. That all doesn't seem to fit your supposition that we are biased because of our sponsors. Is that good enough for you? Or are you implicitly calling us all self-sacrificing (given our sponsors) liars?
Go to bed you weirdo ffs:hehe:
Wales-Bales
24-04-23, 18:55
This thread has gone a bit weird tbh.Things always get weird when Cyril the stalker shows up.
I work in an institution endowed/sponsored extensively by the Waltons and Wrigleys. Think mega foundations (Waltons own Walmart). If they had a bias you'd imagine it would be anti-climate change because it's disruptive to their business model. My institution collects data on climate change and its impacts. Everyone here knows climate change is a fact. That all doesn't seem to fit your supposition that we are biased because of our sponsors. Is that good enough for you? Or are you implicitly calling us all self-sacrificing (given our sponsors) liars?
Walmart / Asda
A pound of sliced Ham wrapped in plastic
A loaf of bread wrapped in plastic
A Pint of milk in a plastic bottle
Kids nappies in a plastic covering
A Take away salad in a plastic tub
A plastic bottle of tomato sauce
A plastic bottle of Salad Cream
And so on for around 1,000 lines of products.
But they won’t give you a plastic bag as it’s bad for the environment :hehe:
cyril evans awaydays
24-04-23, 19:27
:hehe:
If you had your time over again would you wish that a different poster id laughed at your joke?
Wales-Bales
24-04-23, 19:33
Walmart / Asda
A pound of sliced Ham wrapped in plastic
A loaf of bread wrapped in plastic
A Pint of milk in a plastic bottle
Kids nappies in a plastic covering
A Take away salad in a plastic tub
A plastic bottle of tomato sauce
A plastic bottle of Salad Cream
And so on for around 1,000 lines of products.
But they won’t give you a plastic bag as it’s bad for the environment :hehe:A precursor to 15 days to flatten the curve no doubt.
cyril evans awaydays
24-04-23, 19:35
Things always get weird when Cyril the stalker shows up.
:hehe:
If you had your time over again would you wish that a different poster id laughed at your joke?
It was a typo ,I was multitasking and chatting on a phone ,it happens from time to time especially when this messageboard is supposed to be downtime from a busy day.
cyril evans awaydays
24-04-23, 19:36
It was a typo ,I was multitasking and chatting on a phone ,it happens from time to time especially when this messageboard is supposed to be downtime from a busy day.
:hehe:
If you had your time over again would you wish that a different poster id laughed at your joke?
Somebody forgot to log out and then in with the right account before posting the reply.
I wonder if there is any clue who it could have been? :sherlock:
cyril evans awaydays
25-04-23, 06:14
Somebody forgot to log out and then in with the right account before posting the reply.
I wonder if there is any clue who it could have been? :sherlock:
Not the guy who chipped in supportively less than a minute later who had previous form of something similar with the former poster RonnieBird, surely?
Walmart / Asda
A pound of sliced Ham wrapped in plastic
A loaf of bread wrapped in plastic
A Pint of milk in a plastic bottle
Kids nappies in a plastic covering
A Take away salad in a plastic tub
A plastic bottle of tomato sauce
A plastic bottle of Salad Cream
And so on for around 1,000 lines of products.
But they won’t give you a plastic bag as it’s bad for the environment :hehe:
because the government brought in legislation about plastic bags, if it was up to Asda they'd still be giving them away
Wales-Bales
25-04-23, 12:03
because the government brought in legislation about plastic bags, if it was up to Asda they'd still be giving them awayYou can't see the wood for the trees, but feel free to carry on with your mental gymnastics.
You can't see the wood for the trees, but feel free to carry on with your mental gymnastics.
Totally missed the point. I bet he takes his “Bag for Life” everywhere :hehe:
Organ Morgan.
25-04-23, 13:27
Things always get weird when Cyril the stalker shows up.
A psychiatrist of considerable expertise would struggle to accurately determine what goes on inside Cyril's addled swede.
He seems to post here between his numerous naps per day. The briefer those are, the grumpier he is.
During a more refreshing snooze he recalls the early 90s when shimmying down the fairway in his tartan plus fours having finally connected with his three wood off the tee to launch the ball 100 yards.
His intelligible contributions here, which were previously infrequent, are nowadays rarer than hen's teeth.
Wales-Bales
25-04-23, 13:38
Totally missed the point. I bet he takes his “Bag for Life” everywhere :hehe:
It's funny how the government can legislate on the products that are inside the packaging, but they can't legislate on the packaging itself.
[QUOTE=Organ Morgan.;5415249]A psychiatrist of considerable expertise would struggle to accurately determine what goes on inside Cyril's addled swede.
He seems to post here between his numerous naps per day. The briefer those are, the grumpier he is.
During a more refreshing snooze he recalls the early 90s when shimmying down the fairway in his tartan plus fours having finally connected with his three wood off the tee to launch the ball 100 yards.
His intelligible contributions here, which were previously infrequent, are nowadays rarer than hen's teeth.[/QUOTE
Do you think he likes me :hehe:
Wales-Bales
25-04-23, 15:04
Do you think he likes me :hehe:Why worry about someone who has spent the best part of six years forcing an inverted reality down everybody's throat? To be honest, everyone should be avoiding people like this who have a belief system that is based solely on ideology.
cyril evans awaydays
25-04-23, 15:30
Space those posts out "boys", less chance of itchy trigger finger that way!
Why worry about someone who has spent the best part of six years forcing an inverted reality down everybody's throat? To be honest, everyone should be avoiding people like this who have a belief system that is based solely on ideology.
I think a few posters suffer from confirmation bias and it’s makes sensible discussion almost impossible at times.
Wales-Bales
25-04-23, 17:49
I think a few posters suffer from confirmation bias and it’s makes sensible discussion almost impossible at times.What happened to the old saying fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
the other bob wilson
26-04-23, 05:22
What happened to the old saying fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
Oh, please stop, my sides are killing me.
It was a typo ,I was multitasking and chatting on a phone ,it happens from time to time especially when this messageboard is supposed to be downtime from a busy day.
So clicking on "reply with quote", choosing the :hehe: smiley or typing out the shortcut, then pressing Post Quick Reply, all that was just a typo was it?
Taunton Blue Genie
27-04-23, 11:31
So clicking on "reply with quote", choosing the :hehe: smiley or typing out the shortcut, then pressing Post Quick Reply, all that was just a typo was it?
'multitasking' :hehe:
'multitasking' :hehe:
Think what you like , it’s hilarious to think that the super posters on here have so little to contribute apart childish tittle tattle regarding multiple user accounts.
I’ve explained what you need to do , so crack on and get back to me or whoever else you think is at fault.
Lardy I thought you were on the case with this ?
cyril evans awaydays
27-04-23, 15:15
'multitasking' :hehe:
:hehe:
Taunton Blue Genie
27-04-23, 17:16
:hehe:
Followed by "I am outraged that most posters on here realise that I have multi ID's" and "my VPN will confirm that I post from different IP addresses".
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