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SLUDGE FACTORY
27-06-23, 09:26
What a bunch of chancers
Oh we understand how you are all suffering blah blah blah
Oh we have got a savers card
They sound like double glazing salesman
What a bunch of chancers
Oh we understand how you are all suffering blah blah blah
Oh we have got a savers card
They sound like double glazing salesman
Rip off merchants
SLUDGE FACTORY
27-06-23, 10:50
Rip off merchants
Huge salaries
Crap wages for the workers
Massive profits
Tesco donates to the tory party
dandywarhol
27-06-23, 11:05
Nationalization is the answer.:hehe::sherlock::wave:
SLUDGE FACTORY
27-06-23, 11:08
Nationalization is the answer.:hehe::sherlock::wave:
What we had until recently was a private monopoly between the 4 big market leaders
Which is even worse
Price fixing ?
You have that side of things , we will dominate frozen veg etc
All tossers
JamesWales
27-06-23, 11:13
It's not good related, but the striking thing for me is that petrol prices are all about 7-10p a litre cheaper in the supermarkets in Manchester than Cardiff. That demonstrates clear as anything that they could knock 7-10p a litre off petrol here.
I think there is also a big issue with some of the big food brand, Heinz in particular stand out. Stop buying their shit
Nationalization is the answer.:hehe::sherlock::wave:
Drakeford already wants control over what we eat i dont think this would help much!
Nationalization is the answer.:hehe::sherlock::wave:
Agree
splott parker
27-06-23, 12:13
The loyalty cards are ‘Big Brother’ at work. You are being monitored. If prices can be reduced and there’s deals available, do them for everyone. ‘Loyalty’ cards? What a misnomer when people have them for Tesco, Asda, Sainsbury’s etc:shrug:
Cleve van Leef
27-06-23, 12:33
It's not good related, but the striking thing for me is that petrol prices are all about 7-10p a litre cheaper in the supermarkets in Manchester than Cardiff. That demonstrates clear as anything that they could knock 7-10p a litre off petrol here.
I think there is also a big issue with some of the big food brand, Heinz in particular stand out. Stop buying their shit
A couple of weeks ago there was a 10p litre diesel difference in price at Tesco &. Sainsbury’s Cardiff/Newport and
Bridgend/Swabsea. It was cheaper down west.
Armitage Shanks
27-06-23, 12:42
Nationalising supermarkets will be like COVID queues every week. Christ imagine that labour lot in Cardiff in charge of supermarkets. They will probably fine you for pushing your trolley too quickly
ninian opinian
27-06-23, 12:55
Not forgetting they pay their staff such poor wages that their wages have to be topped up with tax credits.
So basically we the taxpayers are paying for those at the top to take their huge salaries and bonuses and donations to the Tory’s.
It’s always socialism to the rescue.
And we are not talking small amounts here. It runs into the billions.
Not forgetting they pay their staff such poor wages that their wages have to be topped up with tax credits.
So basically we the taxpayers are paying for those at the top to take their huge salaries and bonuses and donations to the Tory’s.
It’s always socialism to the rescue.
And we are not talking small amounts here. It runs into the billions.
better get used to these types of supermarkets springing up everywhere in the next 10 years ninian opinion :angry:
https://inf.news/en/news/912e5e579bf05882539aa1e6a434991e.html
Taunton Blue Genie
27-06-23, 13:27
The loyalty cards are ‘Big Brother’ at work. You are being monitored. If prices can be reduced and there’s deals available, do them for everyone. ‘Loyalty’ cards? What a misnomer when people have them for Tesco, Asda, Sainsbury’s etc:shrug:
I know what you mean regarding the nomenclature. It's obviously all about data and saves the supermarkets from rummaging in your dustbin.
superfeathers
27-06-23, 13:37
A couple of weeks ago there was a 10p litre diesel difference in price at Tesco &. Sainsbury’s Cardiff/Newport and
Bridgend/Swabsea. It was cheaper down west.
It's been cheaper down Tenby way for quite a while. Significantly cheaper, we top up on weekends. It's only started to slowly level out over the last few weeks. Some small independents started doing it then the likes of Asda etc reducing it down that way. It's not because it's where the fuel comes from either as previously it was always more expensive down there.
I'm not sure about food but on fuel, there's definitely inflated prices
ninian opinian
27-06-23, 13:47
better get used to these types of supermarkets springing up everywhere in the next 10 years ninian opinion :angry:
https://inf.news/en/news/912e5e579bf05882539aa1e6a434991e.html
Soul destroying :angry:
chrisp_1927
27-06-23, 13:52
Not going to be a popular opinion, but I think the supermarkets are being used as a bit of a scapegoat here. There is quite a lot of competition in the sector, Asda, Morrisons, Tesco, sainsburys plus lidl and aldi.
Many of the supermarkets have also given out high percentage payrises recently. Although retail staff are still not well paid enough.
Most of the sensible, non partisan things I've read about the grocery sector recently suggest that it's the Unilever's and Heinz's(mentioned earlier in the thread I believe) who are doing the price gouging and raising prices far beyond their cost increases.
I think it was Tesco who had a Barney with heinz over pricing last year
SLUDGE FACTORY
27-06-23, 14:02
Drakeford already wants control over what we eat i dont think this would help much!
In what respect
SLUDGE FACTORY
27-06-23, 14:03
Nationalising supermarkets will be like COVID queues every week. Christ imagine that labour lot in Cardiff in charge of supermarkets. They will probably fine you for pushing your trolley too quickly
I would rather labour in charge than that fat tory landowner and the conservatives
In what respect
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-66021503
i guess i shouldnt put the blame solely at drakefords door, but "lets do something different than England because we can" is Welsh Labour policy
superfeathers
27-06-23, 14:14
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-66021503
i guess i shouldnt put the blame solely at drakefords door, but "lets do something different than England because we can" is Welsh Labour policy
I guess you agree with Bethan Walker's wise words "I understand what is going on, but personally, my view is that if I want to buy something with more sugar or salt in it then it's my choice."
Why she thinks she no longer has the choice to eat something higher in salt and sugar is anyones guess.
I would rather labour in charge than that fat tory landowner and the conservatives
That is like the French resistance woman in allo allo reminding us that she'll say this only once every episode 🤭
I guess you agree with Bethan Walker's wise words "I understand what is going on, but personally, my view is that if I want to buy something with more sugar or salt in it then it's my choice."
Why she thinks she no longer has the choice to eat something higher in salt and sugar is anyones guess.
just because they dont literally stop you putting chocolate in your mouth, doesnt mean that these plans arent a little too authoritarian for my tastes.
As usual, with any form of government intervention, the correct course of action should be education, but why do that when you can cut out the middle man and skip straight to controlling access to Dairy Milks.
superfeathers
27-06-23, 14:27
just because they dont literally stop you putting chocolate in your mouth, doesnt mean that these plans arent a little too authoritarian for my tastes.
As usual, with any form of government intervention, the correct course of action should be education, but why do that when you can cut out the middle man and skip straight to controlling access to Dairy Milks.
Yeah education is the key, but I don't see anything wrong with a two pronged approach.
I have to be honest when I first hear things like the meal deals idea, I think the same. But surely improving health to reduce the burden on the NHS is a good thing. If you still want to cram the sugar and salt like Bethan you can still fill your boots
To say they're doing it just to be different to England doesn't seem right to me. What's the point in devolved Govt if they can't make different decisions
Yeah education is the key, but I don't see anything wrong with a two pronged approach.
I have to be honest when I first hear things like the meal deals idea, I think the same. But surely improving health to reduce the burden on the NHS is a good thing. If you still want to cram the sugar and salt like Bethan you can still fill your boots
To say they're doing it just to be different to England doesn't seem right to me. What's the point in devolved Govt if they can't make different decisions
making different decisions for the sake of it (20mph, this, UBI, alcohol pricing etc) is my issue, not making decisions itself.
as for the meal deals, and itll effect other things like ready meals as well i imagine. this disproportionally effects poorer people (its always the case) and its just not realistic to think itll have any significant effect on Healthcare and the NHS, unless the plan perhaps is to starve diabetes out of people.
we put warning labels on food, and the traffic light system for calories/fats etc is superb, as someone whos trying to lose some weight ive put down something ive picked up more than once because of it. But give people the understanding to make those choices dont take it away from them
superfeathers
27-06-23, 14:48
making different decisions for the sake of it (20mph, this, UBI, alcohol pricing etc) is my issue, not making decisions itself.
as for the meal deals, and itll effect other things like ready meals as well i imagine. this disproportionally effects poorer people (its always the case) and its just not realistic to think itll have any significant effect on Healthcare and the NHS, unless the plan perhaps is to starve diabetes out of people.
we put warning labels on food, and the traffic light system for calories/fats etc is superb, as someone whos trying to lose some weight ive put down something ive picked up more than once because of it. But give people the understanding to make those choices dont take it away from them
It's not taking a decision away from them. It just costs more.
I don't get the ready meal argument. It costs less to make something. And I'm a really, REALLY bad cook. I'm absolutely hopeless. But if I bought a ready meal, it'd be convenience and laziness, not because it's cheaper. Or previously because I didn't know any better.
Besides that, it seems that with a broad brush you've decided the things you don't like are "for the sake of it" - 20mph, this, UBI, alcohol pricing etc
UBI - This hasn't happened?
20mph - Don't know about you but I'd rather get hit at 20 than 30
Alcohol pricing - You don't think that there's any issue with alcohol in the UK? I can honestly say that this has lowered the amount that I drink, and hopefully reduced the burden that I'll end up being to the NHS. You can still get smashed on white lightning it just costs you more?
SLUDGE FACTORY
27-06-23, 14:54
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-66021503
i guess i shouldnt put the blame solely at drakefords door, but "lets do something different than England because we can" is Welsh Labour policy
I think the evidence suggests these meal deals are very unhealthy and it's a good idea to try to reduce their consumption
And secondly I would rather Drakeford is running things than the tory filth
It's not taking a decision away from them. It just costs more.
I don't get the ready meal argument. It costs less to make something. And I'm a really, REALLY bad cook. I'm absolutely hopeless. But if I bought a ready meal, it'd be convenience and laziness, not because it's cheaper. Or previously because I didn't know any better.
Besides that, it seems that with a broad brush you've decided the things you don't like are "for the sake of it" - 20mph, this, UBI, alcohol pricing etc
UBI - This hasn't happened?
20mph - Don't know about you but I'd rather get hit at 20 than 30
Alcohol pricing - You don't think that there's any issue with alcohol in the UK? I can honestly say that this has lowered the amount that I drink, and hopefully reduced the burden that I'll end up being to the NHS. You can still get smashed on white lightning it just costs you more?
id rather not get hit at all than get hit at 20, so you should sell your car and walk!
youve used " it just costs you more" twice and therein lies the issue i guess. because the people who like an occasional drink, an occasional treat can have it but now you have to pay more for it.
RE: ubi, while im at loathe to agree with the tories, i think they hit the nail on the head that Labour use Wales as a testing ground for policy choices. UBI is here in a form of a trail for young adults - either with special needs or some sort of difficulties in life i cant remember exactly off the top of my head.
you seems to have an idolised view on things and ill be honest im slightly envious because im a negative, miserable bastard! but "dont buy ready meals just cook at home" is what id expect to hear from an MP (MS) the fact is its not how the lower class live, hence their lifestyle is poor, their health is poor, their life expectancy is less. these policies dont help them live happier healthier lives it just charges them more for their existing lifestyle.
I think the evidence suggests these meal deals are very unhealthy and it's a good idea to try to reduce their consumption
And secondly I would rather Drakeford is running things than the tory filth
theres no such thing as bad food providing moderation. a sandwich, a packet of crisps and a drink for lunch wont turn you into John Candy
superfeathers
27-06-23, 15:12
id rather not get hit at all than get hit at 20, so you should sell your car and walk!
youve used " it just costs you more" twice and therein lies the issue i guess. because the people who like an occasional drink, an occasional treat can have it but now you have to pay more for it.
RE: ubi, while im at loathe to agree with the tories, i think they hit the nail on the head that Labour use Wales as a testing ground for policy choices. UBI is here in a form of a trail for young adults - either with special needs or some sort of difficulties in life i cant remember exactly off the top of my head.
you seems to have an idolised view on things and ill be honest im slightly envious because im a negative, miserable bastard! but "dont buy ready meals just cook at home" is what id expect to hear from an MP (MS) the fact is its not how the lower class live, hence their lifestyle is poor, their health is poor, their life expectancy is less. these policies dont help them live happier healthier lives it just charges them more for their existing lifestyle.
I do mean as a pedestrian, already walking, i'd rather get hit at 20. Although I guess in a car I would too! :hehe:
Most people who like an "occasional treat" or an "occasional drink" don't give two shits that it costs a few pennies more. It's the people who a) eat too much sugar and salt or b) drink too much alcohol that largely (excuse the pun) get annoyed about it, because of the intake it's significantly more.
I don't think it's an idolised view to cook at home. Having gone from a pretty hard up working class background and then as a poor student living on pasta rations, it's what I did. At the time it was to save money, whereas now it's more to eat healthier, but I'd guess I probably do still save money!
The meal deals baffle me anyway. Aren't they like between £3-5 for a sandwich crisps and pop? I see people buy them every day, if they're spending £25 a week on lunch it's not poor people they're targeting, it'd cost 3 quid a week to do that in the house!
I do mean as a pedestrian, already walking, i'd rather get hit at 20. Although I guess in a car I would too! :hehe:
Most people who like an "occasional treat" or an "occasional drink" don't give two shits that it costs a few pennies more. It's the people who a) eat too much sugar and salt or b) drink too much alcohol that largely (excuse the pun) get annoyed about it, because of the intake it's significantly more.
I don't think it's an idolised view to cook at home. Having gone from a pretty hard up working class background and then as a poor student living on pasta rations, it's what I did. At the time it was to save money, whereas now it's more to eat healthier, but I'd guess I probably do still save money!
The meal deals baffle me anyway. Aren't they like between £3-5 for a sandwich crisps and pop? I see people buy them every day, if they're spending £25 a week on lunch it's not poor people they're targeting, it'd cost 3 quid a week to do that in the house!
The sainsburys i used to work by was £3 but ive been WFH for 3 years (another mess but thats a different conversation)
i dont really disagree with the things you say tbh, its just my ire is aimed towards government intervention in everyday matters over lazy people ( of which im easily guilty) who cant meal prep. Theres a much wider conversation there about govt interference in all aspects of lives re: censorship, gambling, alcohol etc but i want to keep it on topic as much as possible!
Eric the Half a Bee
27-06-23, 16:32
just because they dont literally stop you putting chocolate in your mouth, doesnt mean that these plans arent a little too authoritarian for my tastes.
As usual, with any form of government intervention, the correct course of action should be education, but why do that when you can cut out the middle man and skip straight to controlling access to Dairy Milks.
It works in other countries. I have friends out in Norway and, from memory, I think they tax everything that is high in sugar, possibly in saturated fat as well. I guess one difference is that the standard of living is far better out there that buying fresh produce, rather than processed shit, is within the reach of everyone. Here we rely on foodbanks and our life expectancy is lower.
I also think children are being better educated with regard what is better for them to eat than my generation was 30 years ago.
North Cardiff Blue
27-06-23, 17:11
What a bunch of chancers
Oh we understand how you are all suffering blah blah blah
Oh we have got a savers card
They sound like double glazing salesman
It's a fairly competitive market, what about Lidl and Aldi?
WJ99mobile
27-06-23, 17:20
It’s pretty straight forward.
All steps along the supply chain have taken price increases in one form of the other and no one is willing to take a squeeze on margins.
So it ends up on the price to consumer
Once prices start falling post Covid, there’ll be the usual free market competition to push them back down however I can’t see that for another 3 years.
SLUDGE FACTORY
27-06-23, 17:27
theres no such thing as bad food providing moderation. a sandwich, a packet of crisps and a drink for lunch wont turn you into John Candy
Unfortunately the evidence suggests there are lots of fatties in Wales who are not listening
SLUDGE FACTORY
27-06-23, 17:28
It's a fairly competitive market, what about Lidl and Aldi?
They are just as bad
SLUDGE FACTORY
27-06-23, 17:29
The sainsburys i used to work by was £3 but ive been WFH for 3 years (another mess but thats a different conversation)
i dont really disagree with the things you say tbh, its just my ire is aimed towards government intervention in everyday matters over lazy people ( of which im easily guilty) who cant meal prep. Theres a much wider conversation there about govt interference in all aspects of lives re: censorship, gambling, alcohol etc but i want to keep it on topic as much as possible!
Not all government intervention is socialist and anti libertarian
WJ99mobile
27-06-23, 17:34
Not all government intervention is socialist and anti libertarian
But this is though isn’t it
SLUDGE FACTORY
27-06-23, 17:37
But this is though isn’t it
To a libertarian who are paranoid nut cases on the whole , it might be
superfeathers
27-06-23, 17:49
The sainsburys i used to work by was £3 but ive been WFH for 3 years (another mess but thats a different conversation)
i dont really disagree with the things you say tbh, its just my ire is aimed towards government intervention in everyday matters over lazy people ( of which im easily guilty) who cant meal prep. Theres a much wider conversation there about govt interference in all aspects of lives re: censorship, gambling, alcohol etc but i want to keep it on topic as much as possible!
If it’s still £3 (which given the subject of this thread it won’t be),that’s £60 a month for a few cheese sandwiches and salty fried potatoes.
What are your thoughts on cigarettes, should they be cheaper/taxed less?
SLUDGE FACTORY
27-06-23, 17:53
If it’s still £3 (which given the subject of this thread it won’t be),that’s £60 a month for a few cheese sandwiches and salty fried potatoes.
What are your thoughts on cigarettes, should they be cheaper/taxed less?
The boozers I know are still boozing
They can be seen down the supermarket , stacking up on cheap cider
Absolute trolley fulls
North Cardiff Blue
27-06-23, 18:10
It works in other countries. I have friends out in Norway and, from memory, I think they tax everything that is high in sugar, possibly in saturated fat as well. I guess one difference is that the standard of living is far better out there that buying fresh produce, rather than processed shit, is within the reach of everyone. Here we rely on foodbanks and our life expectancy is lower.
I also think children are being better educated with regard what is better for them to eat than my generation was 30 years ago.
A tax on the poor, don't they need their money to stretch further, so highly calorific food would work out cheaper for them, they can't live on three lettuce, but 10 packets of crisps might keep them alive?
I've taken it to extremes to get the point across.
splott parker
27-06-23, 18:22
My experience of the ‘buying the daily sandwich’ situation is the lads who do it are the ones who are continually skint. Baffles me why they can’t organise themselves and have a loaf in the kitchen, butter and, say, some ham in the fridge and make up a few sarnies at home every day throughout the week. Get a flask and do your day’s hot drink before work as well and you’re sorted. I’ve worked with lads who are having a sub by Wednesday, most probably due to doing a tenner+ a day at a shop. Beats me:shrug:
superfeathers
27-06-23, 18:38
A tax on the poor, don't they need their money to stretch further, so highly calorific food would work out cheaper for them, they can't live on three lettuce, but 10 packets of crisps might keep them alive?
I've taken it to extremes to get the point across.
It doesn’t need to be full of sugar salt and fat to be filling. Quite the opposite, the people living on your bag of crisps are quickly hungry again
superfeathers
27-06-23, 18:38
My experience of the ‘buying the daily sandwich’ situation is the lads who do it are the ones who are continually skint. Baffles me why they can’t organise themselves and have a loaf in the kitchen, butter and, say, some ham in the fridge and make up a few sarnies at home every day throughout the week. Get a flask and do your day’s hot drink before work as well and you’re sorted. I’ve worked with lads who are having a sub by Wednesday, most probably due to doing a tenner+ a day at a shop. Beats me:shrug:
I’ve always thought it was just me - I don’t get it at all
chrisp_1927
27-06-23, 21:12
https://www.theguardian.com/business/nils-pratley-on-finance/2023/jun/27/greedflation-the-mps-missed-the-target-when-grilling-the-grocers
Good article in the guardian about it
Eric the Half a Bee
27-06-23, 21:20
A tax on the poor, don't they need their money to stretch further, so highly calorific food would work out cheaper for them, they can't live on three lettuce, but 10 packets of crisps might keep them alive?
I've taken it to extremes to get the point across.
Yes, let's get the poorest to eat shit for years and die early with diabetes and heart problems. One way to get rid of people on benefits......
Yes, let's get the poorest to eat shit for years and die early with diabetes and heart problems. One way to get rid of people on benefits......
The Tories would love that
Gofer Blue
27-06-23, 22:32
I think there is also a big issue with some of the big food brand, Heinz in particular stand out. Stop buying their shit
Have already stopped buying any Heinz products a while back. The trouble is that they make such huge profits it needs a concerted boycott effort from millions of people to make them take any notice, and sadly that is not going to happen.
If it’s still £3 (which given the subject of this thread it won’t be),that’s £60 a month for a few cheese sandwiches and salty fried potatoes.
its not just unhealthy stuff though, you can get a prep'ed salad / a pasta salad / a healthier wrap for the main, a pot / cup of fruit, a OJ / Apple juice / or a smoothie for a drink
If we are arguing the price though, you can get a Costa express as the drink in the meal deal, which then turns it into a decent Lunch for a decent price
While visiting my mum in the heath Hospital I often get a boots or WH smiths Meal deal, if im early for visiting I pop over to the Tesco's as they have slightly more choice
cyril evans awaydays
27-06-23, 23:08
its not just unhealthy stuff though, you can get a prep'ed salad / a pasta salad / a healthier wrap for the main, a pot / cup of fruit, a OJ / Apple juice / or a smoothie for a drink
If we are arguing the price though, you can get a Costa express as the drink in the meal deal, which then turns it into a decent Lunch for a decent price
While visiting my mum in the heath Hospital I often get a boots or WH smiths Meal deal, if im early for visiting I pop over to the Tesco's as they have slightly more choice
I thought the headilne said
Meal deals with a high fat, sugar or salt content will be restricted in Wales under plans to tackle obesity and diabetes.
Why would that have an impact on you getting a prep'ed salad / a pasta salad / a healthier wrap for the main, a pot / cup of fruit, a OJ / Apple juice / or a smoothie for a drink?
I thought the headilne said
Meal deals with a high fat, sugar or salt content will be restricted in Wales under plans to tackle obesity and diabetes.
Why would that have an impact on you getting a prep'ed salad / a pasta salad / a healthier wrap for the main, a pot / cup of fruit, a OJ / Apple juice / or a smoothie for a drink?
if it affects how supermarkets can value the entire range it might well have a knock on effect for these sorts of things too. not like the supermarkets need more than half a reason to up the price of things!
If it’s still £3 (which given the subject of this thread it won’t be),that’s £60 a month for a few cheese sandwiches and salty fried potatoes.
What are your thoughts on cigarettes, should they be cheaper/taxed less?
well smoking isnt quite the same thing but its still a good point. you wont get fat by me eating crisps next to you, but if i smoked 20 a day next to you it could damage your health.
i can be contented with a middle ground of extra tax on the very worst legal things you can buy like smoking, and i guess alcohol even though i moaned about that earlier. Fizzy drinks i guess as well considering the sheer amount of sugar in some of them.
Politics is a moral vaccum anyway but it becomes so obviously pathetic when you start to look at it through taxation of cigarettes. if your local heroine dealer had the attitude of "this is so bad for you im just going to keep raising the price, im doing you a favour because its bad for your health... you can still buy it though! you just have to pay more"
Back to food, and speaking from experience, the link between obesity and mental health is a strong one. education and a long term plan to tackle both the physical and mental is a much better plan for politicians, and much more in line with the job they are supposed to be doing, but its not as "sexy" as going after supermarkets. What about the takeaway industry if food is your target? all the crap they put in Chinese food, the year on year profits of dominos etc etc. There is a long list of things id put above £3 meal deals that have a direct impact on obesity
superfeathers
28-06-23, 07:55
well smoking isnt quite the same thing but its still a good point. you wont get fat by me eating crisps next to you, but if i smoked 20 a day next to you it could damage your health.
i can be contented with a middle ground of extra tax on the very worst legal things you can buy like smoking, and i guess alcohol even though i moaned about that earlier. Fizzy drinks i guess as well considering the sheer amount of sugar in some of them.
Politics is a moral vaccum anyway but it becomes so obviously pathetic when you start to look at it through taxation of cigarettes. if your local heroine dealer had the attitude of "this is so bad for you im just going to keep raising the price, im doing you a favour because its bad for your health... you can still buy it though! you just have to pay more"
Back to food, and speaking from experience, the link between obesity and mental health is a strong one. education and a long term plan to tackle both the physical and mental is a much better plan for politicians, and much more in line with the job they are supposed to be doing, but its not as "sexy" as going after supermarkets. What about the takeaway industry if food is your target? all the crap they put in Chinese food, the year on year profits of dominos etc etc. There is a long list of things id put above £3 meal deals that have a direct impact on obesity
You make some very good points with regards mental health and education. And I'm pleased that now, rather than thinking that it's just to be different to England, you're thinking the WAG should go further. I fully agree with you regards takeaways and so on. We won't see short term results but I hope it leads to a healthier Wales in years to come. The only thing I'd like to see (maybe it is the case) would be the increased taxation on things like takeaways ringfenced for the NHS in Wales.
I thought the headilne said
Meal deals with a high fat, sugar or salt content will be restricted in Wales under plans to tackle obesity and diabetes.
Why would that have an impact on you getting a prep'ed salad / a pasta salad / a healthier wrap for the main, a pot / cup of fruit, a OJ / Apple juice / or a smoothie for a drink?
Not sure on where Supermarkets will draw the line, surely the customer can choose, I might fancy a " Pasta Pot ( healthy ), with some Max Strong Hot Crisps and a Costa "
So a healthy " main " with a side of " unhealthy " and a Costa Coffee
Does the " Man ** " really need to micro-manage what I eat ? ? as some point the customer ( me ) has to take some responsibly , as ultimately I can just walk down the the aisle and buy a trolley load of chocolate and Vodka ( which I am sure is unhealthy )
** other sexes are available
superfeathers
28-06-23, 08:16
Not sure on where Supermarkets will draw the line, surely the customer can choose, I might fancy a " Pasta Pot ( healthy ), with some Max Strong Hot Crisps and a Costa "
So a healthy " main " with a side of " unhealthy " and a Costa Coffee
Does the " Man ** " really need to micro-manage what I eat ? ? as some point the customer ( me ) has to take some responsibly , as ultimately I can just walk down the the aisle and buy a trolley load of chocolate and Vodka ( which I am sure is unhealthy )
** other sexes are available
Noone is micro-managing what you eat, you can buy whatever you want. You will still be able to buy your unhealthy crisps with your pasta and coffee.
As for the vodka, they've increased the cost of that because it's unhealthy
Noone is micro-managing what you eat, you can buy whatever you want. You will still be able to buy your unhealthy crisps with your pasta and coffee.
As for the vodka, they've increased the cost of that because it's unhealthy
they are though
Meal deals with a high fat, sugar or salt content will be restricted in Wales under plans to tackle obesity and diabetes.
So my unhealthy Crisps might not make the " meal deal " But I can walk down Aisle 14 and buy a sharing pack of the same crisps or Aisle 15 and get a 6 pack multi pack of the same crisps, same goes for the evil that is " energy drinks " not in the meal deal as its unhealthy, but I can go and buy it from the shelf in a 6 pack
Doesnt make sense and as I said, ultimately I have to take responsibility on what eat, Most people I know will not need the government ( this is the welsh one, so only effects me when I come up to see my mum ) to help them decide what to eat in my meal deal
they are though
Meal deals with a high fat, sugar or salt content will be restricted in Wales under plans to tackle obesity and diabetes.
So my unhealthy Crisps might not make the " meal deal " But I can walk down Aisle 14 and buy a sharing pack of the same crisps or Aisle 15 and get a 6 pack multi pack of the same crisps, same goes for the evil that is " energy drinks " not in the meal deal as its unhealthy, but I can go and buy it from the shelf in a 6 pack
Doesnt make sense and as I said, ultimately I have to take responsibility on what eat, Most people I know will not need the government ( this is the welsh one, so only effects me when I come up to see my mum ) to help them decide what to eat in my meal deal
The issue with this idea of "responsibility" is that the majority of people are able to behave responsibly when they need to. However, try as you might, there's a sizeable minority of people who are unable to embrace "responsibility" and those people suffer most. In my opinion they need societal help and it behoves all of us to support them
superfeathers
28-06-23, 09:38
they are though
Meal deals with a high fat, sugar or salt content will be restricted in Wales under plans to tackle obesity and diabetes.
So my unhealthy Crisps might not make the " meal deal " But I can walk down Aisle 14 and buy a sharing pack of the same crisps or Aisle 15 and get a 6 pack multi pack of the same crisps, same goes for the evil that is " energy drinks " not in the meal deal as its unhealthy, but I can go and buy it from the shelf in a 6 pack
Doesnt make sense and as I said, ultimately I have to take responsibility on what eat, Most people I know will not need the government ( this is the welsh one, so only effects me when I come up to see my mum ) to help them decide what to eat in my meal deal
No they aren't. They're going to be restricted in meal deals. Like you say you can go and get your multipacks or whatever but not as part of the cheaper deal. So you can still fill your boots just pay a bit more.
Like others have said there are healthier options available in the meal deals. I'd hazard a guess that supermarkets will sell more of these as a result. I think that's the idea.
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