Terry Venables dies

[life on mars]

Terry Venables dies aged 80

[light up the darkness]

https://news.sky.com/story/terry-venables-former-england-manager-dies-aged-80-13016598

[Hot Shot Hamish.]

I know he wasn't everyone's cup of tea but I liked El Tel. Grew up in Church Village as an evacuee during the war. His mother later ran the Farmers Arms pub in The village. RIP Terry

[Majorblue]

RIP.
A man who changed domestic football by embracing Europe.
He had his detractors and may have lived up to the wide boy image but , to me, was a real football man.

[splott parker]

Likeable bloke, archetypal cockney, RIP

[MacAdder]

Did well for himself in the game as a player, manager and general ambassador.

As others have said, a likeable chap. If one didn't like him it was probably borne out of envy or the fact that he was (understandably) pro-England.

RIP.

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

A great character of the game. Unlucky not to lead England to the final in 96.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Always a smiley , chirpy guy

RIP

[Wash DC Blue]

Ahh Shit.
RIP Terry.

[the other bob wilson]

There can’t be too many ex footballers/managers who co wrote a book on which a detective television series was based. Was an original thinker on the game even if he was probably proved wrong over artificial pitches. Was an inventive midfield player, but I’d say a much better manager - definitely in the top ten England has produced.

RIP

[Cyclops]

Was an inventive midfield player, but I’d say a much better manager - definitely in the top ten England has produced.

RIP

Chairman of Pompey for about a year and brought over some Aussies (who he also managed) like John Aloisi around this time. Local fans thought he was great, in fact I remember a fan shouting after Venable's was seen talking to a manager who wasn't rated, 'You wanna listen to him - he knows stuff'. Always thought this summed up Venables perfectly.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Chairman of Pompey for about a year and brought over some Aussies (who he also managed) like John Aloisi around this time. Local fans thought he was great, in fact I remember a fan shouting after Venable's was seen talking to a manager who wasn't rated, 'You wanna listen to him - he knows stuff'. Always thought this summed up Venables perfectly.

Toshack was a very forward looking manager in his time

And Robson

Something about Toshack was very arrogant though 🤔

[Moodybluebird]

RIP Terry, the game is poorer for your passing. A great character, wish there were more like you.

[Cyclops]

RIP Terry, the game is poorer for your passing.
Actually, the game was better for his passing.....

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Actually, the game was better for his passing.....

It's happy hour at Pete and Bernis philosophical steak house

[Cyclops]

It's happy hour at Pete and Bernis philosophical steak house

You're just miffed that I know more about Tuerto than anyone else on here...

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

You're just miffed that I know more about Tuerto than anyone else on here...

You are on a different level and that's the way it is

[NYCBlue]

RIP El Tel. Great football man and a great character. Very ahead of his time in his attitude to management.

[Jordi Culé]

https://kmflett.wordpress.com/2023/11/26/terry-venable-1943-2023-founding-signatory-of-the-anti-nazi-league/

[Cyclops]

#BBC
Gary Neville, who played in (Venables') Euro 96 England side, wrote on X (Twitter) after his death: "He is without doubt the most technically gifted British coach we've ever produced."

[The Bloop]

Really liked El-Tel.
I may be mistaken but my memory tells me he was one of the first to tinker with the 442 formation that had been the standard for years.
Think he ran a hotel in Spain after retiring from football.

[Des Parrot]

Put me in the total respect group as well. When he spoke, people listened. Great character and added much to the game. R.I.P. Tel

[MOZZER2]

what great footage from hill and venables back in 93 talking about the state of the game back then . great analysis when you think back

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Legendary in-depth conversation between Terry Venables, Jimmy Hill and Des Lynam as England fail to qualify for the 1994 World Cup. <br><br>Where is English football going wrong, they ask? Venables would soon be in charge of putting things right.<br><br>November 17, 1993. ��⚽️ <a href="https://t.co/39O3EeYcZR">pic.twitter.com/39O3EeYcZR</a></p>&mdash; Mexico86HQ ������⚽ (@Mexico86HQ) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mexico86HQ/status/1728880868754891169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[pipster]

He was 50% Welsh - "His mother was Welsh, and her family lived in Clydach Vale.When he was 13, his parents moved to run a pub in Romford, Essex, sending him to live with his maternal grandparents Ossie and Milly, who fostered his love of football"

He managed the wrong team, he should have come to us...

[Harry Paget Flashman]

I know he wasn't everyone's cup of tea but I liked El Tel. Grew up in Church Village as an evacuee during the war. His mother later ran the Farmers Arms pub in The village. RIP Terry

I thought he lived up towards Quakers Yard not Church Village.

[Keyser Soze]

I thought he lived up towards Quakers Yard not Church Village.

Nah mate, it was definitely The Farmers Arms, Church Village. I was in there for a lovely pint a month back, drinking a few pints of their "Haka". Six pints of that and I didn't know which way to turn out of the pub. Spookily enough El Tel came up in conversation.

Terry Venables. For me he was the great mix of British man-management / motivator type, who adopted the far more advanced technical and tactical aspects of European Football to go with it. Which made him quite unique for a British manager. Gary Neville may have rated him, but more importantly, so did Johan Cruyff, and when he gives a seal of approval that tells you he was top billing. Barcelona had only one one title in 19 years before El Tel put them back at the top, and that was after losing Maradona and replacing him with Steve Archibald!!!

Loved El Tel. He handled Gazza brilliantly. I admittedly liked Bobby Robson's England and loved El Tel's (and never liked England since he was sacked.) That 1996 side - awesome. Not only did they deserve to beat Germany but in my eyes the best team of that tournament. They should have lifted the trophy. I am not sure many other managers with Nick Barmby and Darren Anderton in their team would have come as close as he did.

For me, a legendary British coach simply because of his tactical pioneering and success abroad, which other than Toshack in Spain, was a rare feat.

[Jordi Culé]

Nah mate, it was definitely The Farmers Arms, Church Village. I was in there for a lovely pint a month back, drinking a few pints of their "Haka". Six pints of that and I didn't know which way to turn out of the pub. Spookily enough El Tel came up in conversation.

Terry Venables. For me he was the great mix of British man-management / motivator type, who adopted the far more advanced technical and tactical aspects of European Football to go with it. Which made him quite unique for a British manager. Gary Neville may have rated him, but more importantly, so did Johan Cruyff, and when he gives a seal of approval that tells you he was top billing. Barcelona had only one one title in 19 years before El Tel put them back at the top, and that was after losing Maradona and replacing him with Steve Archibald!!!

Loved El Tel. He handled Gazza brilliantly. I admittedly liked Bobby Robson's England and loved El Tel's (and never liked England since he was sacked.) That 1996 side - awesome. Not only did they deserve to beat Germany but in my eyes the best team of that tournament. They should have lifted the trophy. I am not sure many other managers with Nick Barmby and Darren Anderton in their team would have come as close as he did.

For me, a legendary British coach simply because of his tactical pioneering and success abroad, which other than Toshack in Spain, was a rare feat.

England the best team in Euro 96, you sure about that?

They won two games during 90 minutes.

Perhaps unlucky to lose to Germany? Lucky to beat Spain.

They beat Scotland and Netherlands. Netherlands were a mess internally within the squad.

Venables should have gotten the England job after Bobby Robson though.

[lardy]

Two wins out of five at euro 96 with every game at Wembley doesn't really make them the best team. The performance vs Netherlands was amazing and they could have beaten Germany while playing well.
But Switzerland was terrible, Scotland would have been 1-1 with less than 15 mins to play had McAllister scored the pel, and Spain outplayed them.

But it was all a turning point for England to progress well in an un-English style (Italia 90 was still defence first) and Venables deserves a lot of credit for that.

[TWGL1]

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