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Ringing around the ground at the end of the game
the majority of fans letting the board know there feelings regarding the Mangers position well the fans that turn up
Any of the Bulut out brigade here change there views after todays great performance well the second half performance :shrug:
It was wonderful…if the opposition fail to score 5 in the first half.
Moodybluebird
20-04-24, 18:48
Ringing around the ground at the end of the game
the majority of fans letting the board know there feelings regarding the Mangers position well the fans that turn up
Any of the Bulut out brigade here change there views after todays great performance well the second half performance :shrug:
I've never been totally convinced by him but 19 wins (more than any team outside the top 6) leads me to think that he should be given a new contract. Hopefully the experience he will have gained this season will stand him in good stead if he's given the green light for next season.
Ringing around the ground at the end of the game
the majority of fans letting the board know there feelings regarding the Mangers position well the fans that turn up
Any of the Bulut out brigade here change there views after todays great performance well the second half performance :shrug:
I think today confirmed the frustration and asked why these youngsters haven’t had more playing time, why did it take 12 injuries?
I don’t mind if he stays, but if he does I don’t expect the football to change from what we have seen most the season.
Eric the Half a Bee
20-04-24, 19:07
Ringing around the ground at the end of the game
the majority of fans letting the board know there feelings regarding the Mangers position well the fans that turn up
Any of the Bulut out brigade here change there views after todays great performance well the second half performance :shrug:
It was a typical Bulut 2-1 win. Should have been too far behind, relied on them missing good chances, then it was probably no surprise we found an equaliser out of nothing and pinched it at the end. Delighted the youngsters did so well, something that wouldn't have happened if the regulars had been fit. Much of the win was down to them. Makes you wonder why it has taken so long to introduce them.
It was great to get a win over that tosser, Martin. Nathan Blake made a point that we don't win games by being dominant, but nobody wants to be just a single goal up against us with 10 minutes to go.
The Lone Gunman
20-04-24, 19:10
the majority of fans letting the board know there feelings…
The majority? Really?
I'm glad i wasn't there, if i'd have heard that chant i think that i would have been sick.
Rock_Flock_of_Five
20-04-24, 19:36
I'm glad i wasn't there, if i'd have heard that chant i think that i would have been sick.
I wouldn't have joined in with the chants either.
The positives of today's game (the introduction of young players) were forced upon him.
I don't like his conservative-style of football.
It’s like the Malky chant, it was catchy, I even got caught up in singing it once even though I wanted him well gone after Villa away.
Ringing around the ground at the end of the game
the majority of fans letting the board know there feelings regarding the Mangers position well the fans that turn up
Any of the Bulut out brigade here change there views after todays great performance well the second half performance :shrug:
It wasn't ringing around the stadium and it wasn't the majority of fans.
It was the noisy fans in the Canton end
Citizen's Nephew
20-04-24, 20:18
I'm glad i wasn't there, if i'd have heard that chant i think that i would have been sick.
Luckily Mrs Citizen had some Gaviscon otherwise I’d have projectile vomitted.
Citizen's Nephew
20-04-24, 20:20
Do you honestly believe we won that BECAUSE of Bulut?
Nobody's Rep
20-04-24, 20:30
Do you honestly believe we won that BECAUSE of Bulut?
Of course not - everyone knows all our love good results have been because of the luck of the gods and the losses have all been deserved due to poor team selection, tactics, coaching etc.
👍
Eric the Half a Bee
20-04-24, 20:30
Do you honestly believe we won that BECAUSE of Bulut?
Of course. He's been planning today for months.
I wouldn't have joined in with the chants either.
The positives of today's game (the introduction of young players) were forced upon him.
I don't like his conservative-style of football.
**** me, I actually agree with you.
Garth Blue
20-04-24, 20:45
If we had played with the handbrake off before today.
If he had the courage to pick youngsters before today.
If he didn't always play with inverted wingers
If he didn't (unlike today) play with 2 sitting midfielders.
If (unlike today) his football wasn't turgid,
Then I'd keep him, but he was forced into today and i fear he would revert to type.
Citizen's Nephew
20-04-24, 20:55
Of course not - everyone knows all our love good results have been because of the luck of the gods and the losses have all been deserved due to poor team selection, tactics, coaching etc.
Fans can believe whatever they want. Your statement is just as likely to be true as the opposite. And, at least I'm consistent when I constantly say there is no such thing as luck. Just probability. It's probable that if he does stay, he'll sign some mares and play turgid football. It's also probable none of the 'kids' will ever get a look in again if he does as Tan won't want to spend money only for 'one of our own' to steal the limelight.
Citizen's Nephew
20-04-24, 20:57
Of course. He's been planning today for months.
Baldrick Bulut!
I wasn't chanting and not a fan of his. Most of the positives from today were despite Bulut not because of him. The positive changes were forced on him. However, I will give home credit for swapping Thurnbull for Deijou. Not an obvious choice or a much to do with Deijou himself. But it did get us up the pitch and allowed the kids to prosper. But why he picked
Turnbull there in the first place is one reason to question if he should be retained?
Citizen's Nephew
20-04-24, 21:09
If we had played with the handbrake off before today.
If he had the courage to pick youngsters before today.
If he didn't always play with inverted wingers
If he didn't (unlike today) play with 2 sitting midfielders.
If (unlike today) his football wasn't turgid,
Then I'd keep him, but he was forced into today and i fear he would revert to type.
Now that's a chant I could get behind. We could call it 'singing the Telly Savalas'.
Undercoverinwurzelland
20-04-24, 21:19
Now that's a chant I could get behind. We could call it 'singing the Telly Savalas'.
I can picture him performing that! 😁
OurManFlint II
20-04-24, 21:37
It was a typical Bulut 2-1 win. Should have been too far behind, relied on them missing good chances, then it was probably no surprise we found an equaliser out of nothing and pinched it at the end. Delighted the youngsters did so well, something that wouldn't have happened if the regulars had been fit. Much of the win was down to them. Makes you wonder why it has taken so long to introduce them.
It was great to get a win over that tosser, Martin. Nathan Blake made a point that we don't win games by being dominant, but nobody wants to be just a single goal up against us with 10 minutes to go.
In the heart of the game, I stand, Eric's name,
A Bulut 2-1 win, not just the same.
Should've been trailing, too far to find,
Yet they missed their chances, left us behind.
Out of nowhere, our equalizer came,
Then at the end, we claimed our fame.
Delighted by the young ones, their skill on display,
Had the regulars been fit, they might not have had their day.
Why so long to introduce this talent bright?
Their contribution to victory, a shining light.
A question lingers, a thought so profound,
Why wait so long for the young ones to be crowned?
And then there's Martin, that tosser, they say,
A win against him brightens our day.
Nathan Blake spoke truth, as he often does,
We're not always dominant, but create quite a buzz.
No one wants to face us, with a single goal lead,
With ten minutes to go, we plant that seed.
So here's to the wins, to the thrill and the fight,
In the world of Eric, where dreams take flight.
Eric the Half a Bee
20-04-24, 21:47
In the heart of the game, I stand, Eric's name,
A Bulut 2-1 win, not just the same.
Should've been trailing, too far to find,
Yet they missed their chances, left us behind.
Out of nowhere, our equalizer came,
Then at the end, we claimed our fame.
Delighted by the young ones, their skill on display,
Had the regulars been fit, they might not have had their day.
Why so long to introduce this talent bright?
Their contribution to victory, a shining light.
A question lingers, a thought so profound,
Why wait so long for the young ones to be crowned?
And then there's Martin, that tosser, they say,
A win against him brightens our day.
Nathan Blake spoke truth, as he often does,
We're not always dominant, but create quite a buzz.
No one wants to face us, with a single goal lead,
With ten minutes to go, we plant that seed.
So here's to the wins, to the thrill and the fight,
In the world of Eric, where dreams take flight.
Oddest thing I've read in years!
OurManFlint II
20-04-24, 21:52
Oddest thing I've read in years!
i asked chat gpt to write me a poem on your post in the style of Giacomo Leopardi, but with a win
Eric the Half a Bee
20-04-24, 21:54
i asked chat gpt to write me a poem on your post in the style of Giacomo Leopardi, but with a win
Thinking of heraldic City poems, I wonder if that one about the playoff semi at Ashton Gate is still around anywhere?
calm down! we will get a battering by mids and normal service will be resumed
In the heart of the game, I stand, Eric's name,
A Bulut 2-1 win, not just the same.
Should've been trailing, too far to find,
Yet they missed their chances, left us behind.
Out of nowhere, our equalizer came,
Then at the end, we claimed our fame.
Delighted by the young ones, their skill on display,
Had the regulars been fit, they might not have had their day.
Why so long to introduce this talent bright?
Their contribution to victory, a shining light.
A question lingers, a thought so profound,
Why wait so long for the young ones to be crowned?
And then there's Martin, that tosser, they say,
A win against him brightens our day.
Nathan Blake spoke truth, as he often does,
We're not always dominant, but create quite a buzz.
No one wants to face us, with a single goal lead,
With ten minutes to go, we plant that seed.
So here's to the wins, to the thrill and the fight,
In the world of Eric, where dreams take flight.
Amazing hahaha.
TheBirchgrovePub
20-04-24, 22:52
The majority? Really?
Spoken like a guy who wasn’t at the game :hehe:
It wasn't ringing around the stadium and it wasn't the majority of fans.
It was the noisy fans in the Canton end
The empty vessels.
Im convinced that some of you dont watch more than the 2minute sky sports highlights.
We shouldve been thumped 5-0 in the first half..not couldve but SHOULD'VE.
That said, bulut is obviously doing everything he can to get the contract including temporarily trying to "attack" which really lends towards the strengths of the better players in our squad so naturally we looked better.
#bulutGTFO
The only chanting I could hear was coming from the Southampton fans. All game long.
Ringing around the ground at the end of the game
the majority of fans letting the board know there feelings regarding the Mangers position well the fans that turn up
Any of the Bulut out brigade here change there views after todays great performance well the second half performance :shrug:
At Millwall last week the majority of the 1,410 away supporters were singing “we want you to stay “ and it was pretty conclusive in the ground yesterday that the fans were on his side.
If he went I’d imagine Siopis and Goutas would follow him , so I’d prefer some stability. Yes there has been some bad runs , (bad runs just like Leeds , Leicester ,Southampton and the majority of all the other teams in the league) but we are on course for a top ten finish which is more than acceptable all things considered.
Thankfully this narrow window of opinion on this board is hardly a benchmark of the majority of supporters who actually attend the games.
The Lone Gunman
21-04-24, 04:42
Spoken like a guy who wasn’t at the game
Here he is….
Of course I was at the game. Do you honestly believe the majority of City fans present were chanting for Bulut to stay? I don’t. I sit in the middle of the Ninian Stand. A few around me were chanting for Bulut to stay. A large majority were silent while those chants were underway.
In my experience, opinion is very much split on the manager with the biggest percentage of people unsure either way.
Here he is….
Of course I was at the game. Do you honestly believe the majority of City fans present were chanting for Bulut to stay? I don’t. I sit in the middle of the Ninian Stand. A few around me were chanting for Bulut to stay. A large majority were silent while those chants were underway.
In my experience, opinion is very much split on the manager with the biggest percentage of people unsure either way.
I’d say that’s spot on, even our little group is divided on this one, a few were chanting, but not that many by us.
As much as I enjoyed the win yesterday, we should have been out of it by half time, their finishing was woeful and we benefited from that.
The big positives were seeing a few youngsters on the pitch, at last it’s been long overdue
Some of these lads with a point to prove battled in such a way that we haven’t seen for ages from established first team players.
It just highlights again how rigid Bulut has been in his previous selections, doggedly sticking with players who either don’t give a toss (Bowler) or just completely lack bottle ( Wintle)
The youngsters, especially Conte were a breath of fresh air, walking back to the pub afterwards I was talking to an old pal, and the first thing he said about the young players was that “he hoped Bulut wouldn’t coach that enthusiasm out of them, if he’s still here next season “
Pretty well sums up my opinion of him, I think there’s better coaches out there, and I don’t get this idea that we have to stick with him, because we’re uncertain about who’ll replace him.
Some of the football offered by him this year has been dogshite and hard to watch
I’ll renew my ST, but it’s going to be a hard sell for the club, unless there’s a couple of exciting players coming in to shift ST,s this summer based on the style of over cautious defensive football, that Bulut has been responsible for since November.
Nobody's Rep
21-04-24, 07:13
I’d say that’s spot on, even our little group is divided on this one, a few were chanting, but not that many by us.
As much as I enjoyed the win yesterday, we should have been out of it by half time, their finishing was woeful and we benefited from that.
The big positives were seeing a few youngsters on the pitch, at last it’s been long overdue
Some of these lads with a point to prove battled in such a way that we haven’t seen for ages from established first team players.
It just highlights again how rigid Bulut has been in his previous selections, doggedly sticking with players who either don’t give a toss (Bowler) or just completely lack bottle ( Wintle)
The youngsters, especially Conte were a breath of fresh air, walking back to the pub afterwards I was talking to an old pal, and the first thing he said about the young players was that “he hoped Bulut wouldn’t coach that enthusiasm out of them, if he’s still here next season “
Pretty well sums up my opinion of him, I think there’s better coaches out there, and I don’t get this idea that we have to stick with him, because we’re uncertain about who’ll replace him.
Some of the football offered by him this year has been dogshite and hard to watch
I’ll renew my ST, but it’s going to be a hard sell for the club, unless there’s a couple of exciting players coming in to shift ST,s this summer based on the style of over cautious defensive football, that Bulut has been responsible for since November.
Not going to enter what is a fairly polarised debate of bulut in or out but I think my biggest concern re his replacement is the competence of our hierarchy to get it right - I am sure there a number of managers out there who would be interested but I'm sure they will be influenced by the "treatment" of the procession of recent managers have had and if they are currently employed wonder if it is worth any more risk than they face in their current employ.
What I will say is I watched buluts post match conference yesterday and it may have been me reading too much into it but when referencing next season I got the distinct impression he knows he won't be here?
In terms of a replacement when was the last time we took a manager from another club - I'm struggling to think who that would be so the chances are people will be keen to come here because they are unemployed as that is probably our market
As for season tickets I suspect like me a lot of people will renew to keep their seat for next year so the club are "guaranteed" a base crowd around 13-14 thousand and I'm not convinced season tickets are that important in terms of income - it is more about atmosphere yet we all know atmosphere is a reflection of what happens on the pitch not necessarily how many are watching it
And I'm with you in terms of having youngsters used instead of expensive journey men loans such as bowler - there is enough scope in match day squads to get that balance right without exposing youngsters unnecessarily but still having opportunities to blood them in a managed way
Once again it will be a summer where we probably lose ground in terms of preparation compared to other clubs who get their act together and have a plan
I think today confirmed the frustration and asked why these youngsters haven’t had more playing time, why did it take 12 injuries?
I don’t mind if he stays, but if he does I don’t expect the football to change from what we have seen most the season.
well Bulut has handed 8 different young players from the academy make there senior debuts this season
that's not a bad ratio
you could argue they should have got more game time . Under Warnock i guess we would have been lucky to see 2 in a season !
To be fair the vast majority dont sing anyway.
So probably the vast majority of singers want him to stay.
Or (and maybe likely) its just a song they enjoyed singing.
I think most people really dont care but dont believe this board are capable of appointing someone better and more likely to make things worse. Im in that camp.
The Lone Gunman
21-04-24, 08:25
I think most people really dont care but dont believe this board are capable of appointing someone better and more likely to make things worse.
That's the impression I get.
There is no doubt Bulut has a significant amount of support within the fanbase and there is also a significant percentage of supporters who believe he should go. However, I'm fairly certain the majority are either undecided or don't really care, and plenty are concerned about who comes next if he does go.
One thing's for sure, though - the claim that the majority of the fans in the CCS were signing in support of Bulut yesterday is as ludicrous as suggesting the majority of City fans sing about paedophiles in Swansea every time that dreadful chant goes up.
The Lone Gunman
21-04-24, 08:32
well Bulut has handed 8 different young players from the academy make there senior debuts this season
that's not a bad ratio
Yesterday was the first time any of them had made a league start. You mentioned Warnock. He gave Mark Harris his league debut towards the end of his first season here.
Let me ask you a question: do you honestly believe Ashford would have started and either Conte or Giles would have got on the pitch yesterday if the likes of Grant, Bowler, Ng and Collins had been fit to play?
**** me, I actually agree with you.
Flippant reply by me-Not meant for Rock-Flock-Of-Five.
Father Dougal
21-04-24, 08:38
Yesterday was the first time any of them had made a league start. You mentioned Warnock. He gave Mark Harris his league debut towards the end of his first season here.
Let me ask you a question: do you honestly believe Ashford would have started and either Conte or Giles would have got on the pitch yesterday if the likes of Grant, Bowler, Ng and Collins had been fit to play?
Obviously not.
However the bigger question is how those players now "benefit:under buluts coaching and instructions etc....
Will they kick on or will we be having discussions in a few months if he stays wondering either where the young players have gone or why they have started playing so conservatively and wondering what happened to that enthusiasm we saw yesterday.
AdrianAlston
21-04-24, 08:44
It's an impossible question to answer unless we know who the replacement would be.
Yesterday was great, but it still asks more questions than it provides answers. It questions why Ashford hasn't been selected earlier (how many games did he sit on the bench, in many of which we were crying out for an attacking substitution?) and the initial formation was farcical.
I'd really love us to have some continuity with our manager and Bulut comes across as committed, hard working and passionate.
But I'd also want to know that we will see a more enlightened selection policy and positive tactics rather than the dirge we have witnessed for most of this season.
Rock_Flock_of_Five
21-04-24, 08:46
At Millwall last week the majority of the 1,410 away supporters were singing “we want you to stay “ and it was pretty conclusive in the ground yesterday that the fans were on his side.
If he went I’d imagine Siopis and Goutas would follow him , so I’d prefer some stability. Yes there has been some bad runs , (bad runs just like Leeds , Leicester ,Southampton and the majority of all the other teams in the league) but we are on course for a top ten finish which is more than acceptable all things considered.
Thankfully this narrow window of opinion on this board is hardly a benchmark of the majority of supporters who actually attend the games.
Why isn't it an accurate consensus by those using this messageboard? Most of the users on this forum attend games, why do their opinions become less valid if they happen to log in to this messageboard?
Father Dougal
21-04-24, 08:47
It's an impossible question to answer unless we know who the replacement would be.
Yesterday was great, but it still asks more questions than it provides answers. It questions why Ashford hasn't been selected earlier (how many games did he sit on the bench, in many of which we were crying out for an attacking substitution?) and the initial formation was farcical.
I'd really love us to have some continuity with our manager and Bulut comes across as committed, hard working and passionate.
But I'd also want to know that we will see a more enlightened selection policy and positive tactics rather than the dirge we have witnessed for most of this season.
Agree with every word.
My preference is he goes as I don't think our squad is that bad, (mid table is correct) the club do spend money and pay good wages (maybe too good) and even hudson averaged a point a game. A half decent manager will get mid table at least.
However yes the concern is there is every chance they will appoint Darren purse or promote tom ramusut you just don't know.
Nobody's Rep
21-04-24, 08:53
Agree with every word.
My preference is he goes as I don't think our squad is that bad, (mid table is correct) the club do spend money and pay good wages (maybe too good) and even hudson averaged a point a game. A half decent manager will get mid table at least.
However yes the concern is there is every chance they will appoint Darren purse or promote tom ramusut you just don't know.
That last paragraph seems to be the one concern that is common across most fans
Why isn't it an accurate consensus by those using this messageboard? Most of the users on this forum attend games, why do their opinions become less valid if they happen to log in to this messageboard?
Because the number of regular posters on here is around 50 and from what I can tell aged between 50 and 80 years of age.
If you were at Millwall , or Birmingham or are in town on match days, most of the fans I speak to would prefer stability over change. The fact that supporters are chanting his name to stay at matches is probably more of a benchmark than the regular posters views on here .
If city fans wanted him out I’m sure there would be chants of “ Bulut Out” and boos at home games aimed at his direction, just like there has always been against managers who are not up to standard.
Why don’t you consider creating a poll today, I think the last one regarding this subject has about 30 votes in total which was the point I was trying to make.
The Lone Gunman
21-04-24, 10:07
If city fans wanted him out I’m sure there would be chants of “ Bulut Out” and boos at home games aimed at his direction, just like there has always been against managers who are not up to standard.
During the last home game (the defeat to Hull) a large percentage of fans had left the ground long before the final whistle and there was loud jeering both at half-time and full-time.
Yesterday afternoon, as has been the case in many home games during the second half of the season, there were swathes of empty seats all around the ground, many of which belong to season ticket holders. The weather was good, the opposition was attractive and the game didn't clash with the rugby or anything similar, but there were still loads of season ticket holders missing.
What do you make of that? Do you think it has anything to do with the standard of football that has been served up by the manager and his players this season, or do you believe there are other factors involved?
During the last home game (the defeat to Hull) a large percentage of fans had left the ground long before the final whistle and there was loud jeering both at half-time and full-time.
Yesterday afternoon, as has been the case in many home games during the second half of the season, there were swathes of empty seats all around the ground, many of which belong to season ticket holders. The weather was good, the opposition was attractive and the game didn't clash with the rugby or anything similar, but there were still loads of season ticket holders missing.
What do you make of that? Do you think it has anything to do with the standard of football that has been served up by the manager and his players this season, or do you believe there are other factors involved?
Our average gate is 21,200, not too shabby considering the home form etc and the non show of season ticket holders happens at every ground in the country. Apparently Arsenal have as many as 15,000 non shows per match , what do you think of that ?
The way the season tickets are priced allow fans to be still financially better off by missing as many as 10 games compared to walk up prices.
Ultimately, I hope he stays, but if you don’t want him to stay , who would you want as a replacement?
The Lone Gunman
21-04-24, 10:20
Our average gate is 21,200, not too shabby considering the home form etc and the non show of season ticket holders happens at every ground in the country. Apparently Arsenal have as many as 15,000 non shows per match , what do you think of that ?
The way the season tickets are priced allow fans to be still financially better off by missing as many as 10 games compared to walk up prices.
You haven't answered my question, but I kind of expected that.
You haven't answered my question, but I kind of expected that.
There is nothing to answer , you know as-well as anyone how fickle fans can be after a defeat, the same way as they pivot when we get a great match like yesterday.
I kind of expect your negativity anyway because you no longer are in the free ice cream list anymore.
I’m pretty pissed off my free chips at Mansfield were cold.
The Lone Gunman
21-04-24, 10:28
Ultimately, I hope he stays, but if you don’t want him to stay , who would you want as a replacement?
I have no idea and I think it's a pretty dumb question to be honest. After all, like the vast majority of UK football fans, I'd never even heard of Erol Bulut before he arrived here. Indeed, I'd never heard of almost all of the foreign coaches who have made a genuine mark in the Championship before they got here. And I'd never heard of half of the young British coaches who have done well in this division either.
Take Kieran McKenna, for example. I'd never heard of him before he took over at Ipswich. I'd never heard of Thomas Frank or Daniel Farke before they arrive at Brentford and Norwich either. Be honest, had you?
The Lone Gunman
21-04-24, 10:29
I kind of expect your negativity anyway because you no longer are in the free ice cream list anymore.....
Oh, come on.
I have no idea and I think it's a pretty dumb question to be honest. After all, like the vast majority of UK football fans, I'd never even heard of Erol Bulut before he arrived here. Indeed, I'd never heard of almost all of the foreign coaches who have made a genuine mark in the Championship before they got here. And I'd never heard of half of the young British coaches who have done well in this division either.
Take Kieran McKenna, for example. I'd never heard of him before he took over at Ipswich. I'd never heard of Thomas Frank or Daniel Farke before they arrive at Brentford and Norwich either. Be honest, had you?
If you can’t think of an adequate replacement then I’d stick with what we have. A top ten finish is more than acceptable, and whilst the home form is pretty dire, perhaps you should try some away games as they have been very competitive
The Lone Gunman
21-04-24, 10:35
If you can’t think of an adequate replacement then I’d stick with what we have.
Thankfully, it's not up to me to come up with a replacement, if one is deemed necessary.
An old man in Malaysia is going to decide how this goes, if he hasn't done so already.
Thankfully, it's not up to me to come up with a replacement, if one is deemed necessary.
An old man in Malaysia is going to decide how this goes, if he hasn't done so already.
It’s probably already concluded behind the scenes , like you say.
The Lone Gunman
21-04-24, 10:45
It’s probably already concluded behind the scenes , like you say.
I hope you're right and Bulut's demeanour in his post-match press conference suggested it might be.
It will be insane if it isn't.
I hope you're right and Bulut's demeanour in his post-match press conference suggested it might be.
It will be insane if it isn't.
We're talking about Tan's decision making, anything is possible
I hope you're right and Bulut's demeanour in his post-match press conference suggested it might be.
It will be insane if it isn't.
I think he’s staying personally.
The Lone Gunman
21-04-24, 10:52
I think he’s staying personally.
I don't. But we'll find out in the next couple of weeks.
If you can’t think of an adequate replacement then I’d stick with what we have. A top ten finish is more than acceptable, and whilst the home form is pretty dire, perhaps you should try some away games as they have been very competitive
On the face of it things have improved, without doubt. Although these things are nuanced and we all have different expectations and thoughts on how the game should be played and what we find entertaining, progressive etc. So, i can see both sides of the argument really, even though i can't watch Bulut's brand of football, i fully accept that there are those who don't mind it and who believe that Bulut has some kind of plan in place.
The problem for me is that Bulut doen't seem to go out to win a game,it's avoid defeat as the first call, keepthe midfield flat, no penetration, hardly any player braking opposition lines. It's all about the wide players, which tells me that he doesn't like expression in the difficult areas, he likes to stretch teams. It makes for some awful stuff if our wide players aren't performing as they're our only outlet.
Our mosr creative player (Colwill) Doesn't score or create a great deal, not through want of trying, he just doesn't get into those positions or is starting from a very deep position. He also lacks composure on times but that bit is on him, not Bulut. So it sort of shows what Bulut wants, which is the midfield players getting the ball out wide at the earliest opportunity. To me, that a bit cowardly in terms of how i like the game to be played and it only gives us one option, and when that fails it's shocking. We go a goal down and he reacts, and i think that has got him off the hook a bit. Not for me, although he does have a system, he does have a plan, i just don't like it :thumbup:
On the face of it things have improved, without doubt. Although these things are nuanced and we all have different expectations and thoughts on how the game should be played and what we find entertaining, progressive etc. So, i can see both sides of the argument really, even though i can't watch Bulut's brand of football, i fully accept that there are those who don't mind it and who believe that Bulut has some kind of plan in place.
The problem for me is that Bulut doen't seem to go out to win a game,it's avoid defeat as the first call, keepthe midfield flat, no penetration, hardly any player braking opposition lines. It's all about the wide players, which tells me that he doesn't like expression in the difficult areas, he likes to stretch teams. It makes for some awful stuff if our wide players aren't performing as they're our only outlet.
Our mosr creative player (Colwill) Doesn't score or create a great deal, not through want of trying, he just doesn't get into those positions or is starting from a very deep position. He also lacks composure on times but that bit is on him, not Bulut. So it sort of shows what Bulut wants, which is the midfield players getting the ball out wide at the earliest opportunity. To me, that a bit cowardly in terms of how i like the game to be played and it only gives us one option, and when that fails it's shocking. We go a goal down and he reacts, and i think that has got him off the hook a bit. Not for me, although he does have a system, he does have a plan, i just don't like it :thumbup:
I’d argue that our current system of playing is indicative of 70% of championship teams I’ve seen this season. Out of the top 6 Coventry ( although Cov were appalling at CCS)and Hull look nice on the eye , but they have spent around £20m each on new players. Imagine if we had Ellis Sims or Jayden in our team.
With the resources available the style of play comes secondary to points on the board. Next season is a different story though.
JumpersforGoalposts
21-04-24, 12:01
It was said at the outset that the one year contract had and extension option that would be triggered by performance on the pitch. While we don't know what that is it seems likely it will not be automatically triggered. Consequently I'd have thought if Tan is going to approve an extension he is likely to want to offer lower remuneration as the performance criteria to extend on the current terms have not been met.
Ringing around the ground at the end of the game
the majority of fans letting the board know there feelings regarding the Mangers position well the fans that turn up
Any of the Bulut out brigade here change there views after todays great performance well the second half performance :shrug:
Nope….im not sure it matters who the manager is with Tan and Dalman running the show…..why aren’t we bringing the youth through? Fans would be far happier watching them busting a gut than the likes of Robinson and bowler who probably cost a fortune too
If Bulut goes, it will only be because he's being paid or will want to be paid what the board or Tan considers too much money. They're not exactly proactive or creative when it comes to hiring new managers. We have no idea what their aspirations are. But I have a feeling mid-table is fine for them. I suspect that Tan no longer has the stomach for the PL. If the money is right Bulut will be signing a new contract soon. If he doesn't, I expect a downgrade.
WJ99mobile
21-04-24, 16:00
If Bulut goes, it will only be because he's being paid or will want to be paid what the board or Tan considers too much money. They're not exactly proactive or creative when it comes to hiring new managers. We have no idea what their aspirations are. But I have a feeling mid-table is fine for them. I suspect that Tan no longer has the stomach for the PL. If the money is right Bulut will be signing a new contract soon. If he doesn't, I expect a downgrade.
Or maybe they’ve got a better manager in mind to take us forward.
bluebirds17
21-04-24, 16:07
I think it ultimately depends what the club wants. Realistically we aren't ever going to compete money wise with other teams in this division.
If the club look at yesterday and think this is what we want, our academy players coming through and being part of the squad next season, then Bulut isn't that manager.
Whilst the football hasn't been the best and he's been reluctant to use our younger players, Bulut has done the job this season and done more than what we expected and I wouldn't be reluctant to give him the contract.
Personally I want a manager who will use the youth more and build them as a basis for our squad.
Or maybe they’ve got a better manager in mind to take us forward.
Yes, that is the alternative. And it's possible. But for me, based on past form, doubtful.
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