Youtube video claiming only 17,000 died of Covid exposed as inaccurate by BBC

"A misleading claim that "only" 17,000 people in England and Wales have died of Covid has been circulating online. The UK's Office for National Statistics (ONS) has stepped in to correct the record - but not before the false claim went viral.

"It has become a weapon of the cruel and heartless to dismiss the deaths of the people we love."

Matt Fowler lost his dad to Covid-19 in April 2020. Ian Fowler was 56 at the time of his death, and lived with type 2 diabetes - which his son said had a "minor, barely perceptible impact on his life that he controlled with his diet".

But the suggestion that "only" 17,000 people in England and Wales have died of Covid - a figure arrived at by removing from the data anyone with a pre-existing health condition - completely discounts the deaths of people like Ian."

Link: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/60145237

Posting misinformation is a wicked thing.

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Originally Posted by Cyclops

Posting misinformation is a wicked thing.

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Indeed. And those who wilfully promote what turns out to be misinformation of this nature without first checking it's validity are complete and utter twats.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Indeed. And those who wilfully promote what turns out to be misinformation of this nature without first checking it's validity are complete and utter twats.

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Pleased you responded in this manner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bza1...r.JohnCampbell

Seems the BBC reporter - and several folk on this forum - got completely the wrong end of the stick.

Why have you started a new thread on this? It's only 10 days since your last one, where you also linked his false information video.

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Originally Posted by lardy

Why have you started a new thread on this? It's only 10 days since your last one, where you also linked his false information video.

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Also glad you've posted this.

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Originally Posted by Cyclops

Pleased you responded in this manner.

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I responded in that manner because I firmly believe it's true.

You and the chuckling 'doctor' can back-track until your bollocks drop off - it'll make no difference. He knew exactly what he was doing when he posted that initial video, just as you knew what you were doing when you started a thread highlighting it on here. You're fooling absolutely nobody now.

Apparently, in your own words, you believed you were helping to expose "the scaremongering tactics of governments," when in fact you were exposing yourself as an idiot.

I was just reading that a lot of people that are "fooled" by false information don't actually believe it. They just go with it because it suits their political stance. Imagine that.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

You and the chuckling 'doctor' can back-track until your bollocks drop off - it'll make no difference. He knew exactly what he was doing when he posted that initial video, just as you knew what you were doing when you started a thread highlighting it on here. You're fooling absolutely nobody now.

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I would be most interested in your evidence behind your comment that Dr Campbell 'knew exactly was he was doing when he posted that initial video'.
And when you make snide comments like the "chuckling 'doctor'", you really have lost the argument.

In case folk have missed why I started this thread, might it just be that many people (including BBC's Rachel Schraer) have not understood what Dr Campbell was saying?

So - "firmly" misunderstanding what qualified people say (with supporting evidence) eh?

And I'm the idiot!

I think that Dr Campbell has been helpful, informative, transparent and objective throughout this shitty period.

He was one of the first people that I watched highlighting the seriousness of the virus and has never downplayed it.
He has also been a massive Vaccine and Mask Wearing proponent.

This hokum has been "skewed" from.the very start… “within 28 of days of a positive test “

Imagine if they tested everyone who died within 28 days of flu, which has disappeared this year ?

Even Sajid Javid suggested the figure is skewed.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...-virus-admits/

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Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue

I think that Dr Campbell has been helpful, informative, transparent and objective throughout this shitty period.

He was one of the first people that I watched highlighting the seriousness of the virus and has never downplayed it.
He has also been a massive Vaccine and Mask Wearing proponent.

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Is that the "chuckling" 'doctor' (in inverted commas) ?

Hard to reconcile what you said with this description......

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

This hokum has been "skewed" from.the very start… “within 28 of days of a positive test “

Imagine if they tested everyone who died within 28 days of flu, which has disappeared this year ?

Even Sajid Javid suggested the figure is skewed.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...-virus-admits/

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Or who ate cornflakes the morning they died.

FFS. You do know that you don't need to have any medical knowledge to be the Health Secretary or a journalist, don't you?

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Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew

Or who ate cornflakes the morning they died.

FFS. You do know that you don't need to have any medical knowledge to be the Health Secretary or a journalist, don't you?

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Of course you don’t , but his advisors do don’t they , otherwise he is also misleading the public ?

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Of course you don’t , but his advisors do don’t they , otherwise he is also misleading the public ?

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No politician would ever do that.

Neither would the BBC :hehe:

Youve had a mare here Cyclops.

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Originally Posted by Hilts

Youve had a mare here Cyclops.

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Explain, please

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Originally Posted by Hilts

Youve had a mare here Cyclops.

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Time to change accounts and come back fresh.

The original thread with this nurse was bad enough now we have this.

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Originally Posted by Cyclops

Is that the "chuckling" 'doctor' (in inverted commas) ?

Hard to reconcile what you said with this description......

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I watched the whole video when you posted it and it was poor compared to his other stuff. He knew exactly what he was doing which in my view trashed all the good stuff that came before. I don't know what his motive was but it was all very dramatic the way he slowly revealed line by line the data only to leave it 'hanging'. That was very unprofessional and damaging. I don't know how much revenue this generated but with over 2M subscribers I'm guessing a lot.

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Originally Posted by Hilts

The original thread with this nurse was bad enough now we have this.

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Suggest you re-evaluate what's being said here.

Its the bus reversing

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Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew

I watched the whole video when you posted it and it was poor compared to his other stuff. He knew exactly what he was doing which in my view trashed all the good stuff that came before. I don't know what his motive was but it was all very dramatic the way he slowly revealed line by line the data only to leave it 'hanging'. That was very unprofessional and damaging. I don't know how much revenue this generated but with over 2M subscribers I'm guessing a lot.

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You sure you're reading the runes correctly here?
There had been posts elswhere about the 17,000 deaths (which had been rubbished) before he posted.

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Originally Posted by Cyclops

You sure you're reading the runes correctly here?
There had been posts elswhere about the 17,000 deaths (which had been rubbished) before he posted.

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? I must be living in some alternate reality because I could have sworn you started a thread about this with the clickbait Dr and the clickbait data in order to generate clickbait. I don't remember him referring to any 'rubbished' data in his video (I can't be bothered to watch the whole thing again). I'll apologise in advance if I'm wrong. Am I wrong? If he didn't reference it then why did you post it and leave it with....actually, you know what. Forget it. I don't care enough to continue this.

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Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew

Forget it. I don't care enough to continue this.

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OK
I see Ant and Dec's Limitless Win is starting soon.
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