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Serious, TEAM for Saturday, to face Reading (past the jokey stage)
Smithies
Ng
McGuinness
Flint
Bagan
Sang
Pack
Ralls
Giles
Harris
Moore
Playing as 442
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Re: Serious, TEAM for Saturday, to face Reading (past the jokey stage)
Smithies - Phillips needs to be taken out of the firing line
Ng
McGuinness
Flint - The least culpable of the central three
Brown or Bagan - Bagan could play against teams who are likely to sit back against us but that number is dwindling.
Pack
Ralls - The downturn in form has coincided with his injury. His place should be under threat from Bowen and Wintle (eventually)
Colwill
Moore
Giles
Harris
My thinking about playing Harries further forward (but not by much) than Moore is it gives us someone who Moore can flick the ball onto rather than flicks onto their keeper; can stretch defences by running in behind which in turns opens up space for Moore to hold the ball up and bring Giles, Colwill, midfielders and full backs into play higher up the pitch. It also allows Moore to run onto crosses rather than standing and jumping to fight for them. Moore is too good a player to use be used as a battering ram.
The personnel also offers the formation flexibility as it could become 4-4-2 if under the cosh or 3-5-2 with Ng and Giles as wing backs should midfield be overrun. This means substitutions can be used to cover injuries and replacing tired players instead of needing to use them to change formation.
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Re: Serious, TEAM for Saturday, to face Reading (past the jokey stage)
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Originally Posted by
PontBlue
Smithies - Phillips needs to be taken out of the firing line
Ng
McGuinness
Flint - The least culpable of the central three
Brown or Bagan - Bagan could play against teams who are likely to sit back against us but that number is dwindling.
Pack
Ralls - The downturn in form has coincided with his injury. His place should be under threat from Bowen and Wintle (eventually)
Colwill
Moore
Giles
Harris
My thinking about playing Harries further forward (but not by much) than Moore is it gives us someone who Moore can flick the ball onto rather than flicks onto their keeper; can stretch defences by running in behind which in turns opens up space for Moore to hold the ball up and bring Giles, Colwill, midfielders and full backs into play higher up the pitch. It also allows Moore to run onto crosses rather than standing and jumping to fight for them. Moore is too good a player to use be used as a battering ram.
The personnel also offers the formation flexibility as it could become 4-4-2 if under the cosh or 3-5-2 with Ng and Giles as wing backs should midfield be overrun. This means substitutions can be used to cover injuries and replacing tired players instead of needing to use them to change formation.
Practically what I mentioned, but you spoilt it by even mentioning Brown !!!!!!!!! He is Absolutely useless
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Re: Serious, TEAM for Saturday, to face Reading (past the jokey stage)
I know Philips has had a few rough days but Smithies back? Come on. His form was wrecked when he was last in the side. It’s amazing how much better players are in the eyes of fans when they DON’T play!
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Re: Serious, TEAM for Saturday, to face Reading (past the jokey stage)
Smithies / Phillips (don't think Phillips did too much wrong last night, have to say I've ignored the Blackburn goals so don't know about there.)
Ng Morrison Flint Bagan
Ralls/Bacuna
Pack Colwill
Giles
Harris Moore
We don't play with width anyway, whilst Giles could play one side there isn't really anyone competent or effective the other side.
He could still move into space there or swap with others as he certainly is the only one with a bit of pace (Harris aside who looks far more effective upfront).
2 upfront as the striker has become even more isolated than usual.
Trying to put these things together you realise how limited we are in certain positions. Still never an excuse for 5 cbs, drag some full backs from the u23 team if needed Mick.
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Re: Serious, TEAM for Saturday, to face Reading (past the jokey stage)
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Originally Posted by
Trigger
Smithies / Phillips (don't think Phillips did too much wrong last night, have to say I've ignored the Blackburn goals so don't know about there.)
Ng Morrison Flint Bagan
Ralls/Bacuna
Pack Colwill
Giles
Harris Moore
We don't play with width anyway, whilst Giles could play one side there isn't really anyone competent or effective the other side.
He could still move into space there or swap with others as he certainly is the only one with a bit of pace (Harris aside who looks far more effective upfront).
2 upfront as the striker has become even more isolated than usual.
Trying to put these things together you realise how limited we are in certain positions. Still never an excuse for 5 cbs, drag some full backs from the u23 team if needed Mick.
Smithies
Ng McGuiness Flint Bagan
Pack
Sang Ralls Giles
Colwill
Moore
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Re: Serious, TEAM for Saturday, to face Reading (past the jokey stage)
Smithies
McGuiness, Pack, Flint
Ng, Sang, Bowen, Ralls, Bagan
Colwill
Moore
Subs
Phillips
Nelson
Brown
Vaulks
Evans
Collins
Harris
Doh, just realised I left Giles out, stick him on the bench for Brown.
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Re: Serious, TEAM for Saturday, to face Reading (past the jokey stage)
I would go for
Phillips
McGuiness Flint Brown
Ng Pack Ralls Bagan
Colwill Giles
Moore
it can't be any worse than recently
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Re: Serious, TEAM for Saturday, to face Reading (past the jokey stage)
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Originally Posted by
PontBlue
Smithies - Phillips needs to be taken out of the firing line
Ng
McGuinness
Flint - The least culpable of the central three
Brown or Bagan - Bagan could play against teams who are likely to sit back against us but that number is dwindling.
Pack
Ralls - The downturn in form has coincided with his injury. His place should be under threat from Bowen and Wintle (eventually)
Colwill
Moore
Giles
Harris
My thinking about playing Harries further forward (but not by much) than Moore is it gives us someone who Moore can flick the ball onto rather than flicks onto their keeper; can stretch defences by running in behind which in turns opens up space for Moore to hold the ball up and bring Giles, Colwill, midfielders and full backs into play higher up the pitch. It also allows Moore to run onto crosses rather than standing and jumping to fight for them. Moore is too good a player to use be used as a battering ram.
The personnel also offers the formation flexibility as it could become 4-4-2 if under the cosh or 3-5-2 with Ng and Giles as wing backs should midfield be overrun. This means substitutions can be used to cover injuries and replacing tired players instead of needing to use them to change formation.
Come on that's far too sensible!
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Re: Serious, TEAM for Saturday, to face Reading (past the jokey stage)
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
Smithies
Ng
McGuinness
Flint
Bagan
Sang
Pack
Ralls
Giles
Harris
Moore
Playing as 442
I'd go with 442 as well. At least the players would understand that formation and what their jobs are in it. I'd have Giles and Harris out wide as they are the only players with pace we have. Moore up front with Collwill playing off him. Pick any 2 from 5 for the midfield as they are all pretty much of a muchness at the moment. Ideally we'd be able to recall Wintle.
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Re: Serious, TEAM for Saturday, to face Reading (past the jokey stage)
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
Practically what I mentioned, but you spoilt it by even mentioning Brown !!!!!!!!! He is Absolutely useless
I wouldn't disagree with that comment about Brown in a Cardiff Shirt this season but for Northern Ireland he's been decent and there's definitely a defender in there which is why I would never play him at wing back and only as left full back if we are likely to play a team who will dominate the game.
If we want to play more expansive football it's Bagan every time.
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Re: Serious, TEAM for Saturday, to face Reading (past the jokey stage)
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Originally Posted by
BLUETIT
Smithies
Ng
McGuinness
Flint
Bagan
Sang
Pack
Ralls
Giles
Harris
Moore
Playing as 442
Yes, this team works for me
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Re: Serious, TEAM for Saturday, to face Reading (past the jokey stage)
If MM starts with McGuinness
Flint he's dead and gone on Monday.
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Re: Serious, TEAM for Saturday, to face Reading (past the jokey stage)
Surprised how many people wouldplay Harris, all about opinions but I just don't see it with him.
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Re: Serious, TEAM for Saturday, to face Reading (past the jokey stage)
Unpopular opinion; wouldn't it be better if we just lost this one so he gets the boot? Do you think some of the players might be thinking that way? A scrappy win via set piece would only prolong this sh1t show.
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Re: Serious, TEAM for Saturday, to face Reading (past the jokey stage)
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Originally Posted by
198bore
Unpopular opinion; wouldn't it be better if we just lost this one so he gets the boot? Do you think some of the players might be thinking that way? A scrappy win via set piece would only prolong this sh1t show.
I can remember people saying this about Dave Jones sides when we were in the middle of a bad run.
much better to win and be comfortable in mid table when we make a change than have to do it in desparation.
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Re: Serious, TEAM for Saturday, to face Reading (past the jokey stage)
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Originally Posted by
2b2bdoo
Surprised how many people wouldplay Harris, all about opinions but I just don't see it with him.
Me too Harris hasn't scored in 8 league games this seaso he simply isn't a natural striker. Could do worse than giving Simba a go up front alongside Moore.v
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Re: Serious, TEAM for Saturday, to face Reading (past the jokey stage)
GK Smithies
RB Ng
CD McGuiness
CD Flint
LB Bagan
CDM Pack
CM Ralls
RW Semenyo
AMC Colwill
LW Giles
ST Moore
Bench
Picked from...... Zimba, Nelson, Connelly, Harris, Bacuna, Evans, D'almeida, Phillips, Bowen, Collins, Morrison
No place for Morrison in the 1st team until he fully recovers
I understand Semenyo in the starting 11 is a risk but we have to get pace in the team and up around Moore, other than Giles. Maybe I would start with Evans and have Semenyo on the bench.
But that's the only way we can get some added pace in the team without going out and getting in a free transfer.
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
I can remember people saying this about Dave Jones sides when we were in the middle of a bad run.
much better to win and be comfortable in mid table when we make a change than have to do it in desparation.
Yeah you're right, We need points on the board
Although I do think we will lose.
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Re: Serious, TEAM for Saturday, to face Reading (past the jokey stage)
Smithies
NG
McGuiness
Morrison
Brown
Pack
D'almeida
Giles
Colwill
Evans
Moore
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Re: Serious, TEAM for Saturday, to face Reading (past the jokey stage)
The pontificating about who is up front is worthless. Like trying to choose a captain to sail a ship through the desert.
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Re: Serious, TEAM for Saturday, to face Reading (past the jokey stage)
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Originally Posted by
Shrewsbury Blue
Me too Harris hasn't scored in 8 league games this seaso he simply isn't a natural striker. Could do worse than giving Simba a go up front alongside Moore.v
And Moore the natural striker has one?
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Re: Serious, TEAM for Saturday, to face Reading (past the jokey stage)
Smithies
NG
Flint
Morrison
McGuiness
Pack
Ralls
Vaulks
Bacuna
Giles
Moore
I don't even know what's the best team anymore
Our squad is so so poor and unbalanced. We can't even balance our team towards a hoofball team as we can't hold up the ball in the final third
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Smithies
NG
Flint
Morrison
McGuiness
Pack
Ralls
Vaulks
Bacuna
Giles
Moore
I don't even know what's the best team anymore
Our squad is so so poor and unbalanced. We can't even balance our team towards a hoofball team as we can't hold up the ball in the final third
Youve just started a thread wanting MacGuiness moved from RWB. This suggests you wasnt him left back in a 4.?
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Re: Serious, TEAM for Saturday, to face Reading (past the jokey stage)
Smithies
NG Morrison McGuiness Bagan
Pack
Giles Colwill Harris
Moore Zimba
Give the youngster a go up front. What have we got to lose?