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Are we as bad as people have been making out?
A contributor to the feedback section of my blog posted this link in his reply to my piece on Sunday’s game.
https://www.whoscored.com/Regions/25...ship-2022-2023
If you look at the current form chart, you’ll see that, apart from Wigan who are bottom, the other five sides we’ve played with Mark Hudson in charge are all in the top six. Clearly, the three points they took against us is helping the jacks, QPR and Coventry get into such a lofty position, but it’s been a very tough introduction for Hudson.
For me, we’ve got a problem at left back and our goal scoring record has to improve (having only one winger making any sort of meaningful contribution doesn’t help in that regard), but, although I share the sense of doom and gloom when it comes to how the club is being run, I don’t think things on the pitch are as bad as many are painting them.
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Sense written at last! Too many doom mongers on this board I reckon.
Thank goodness someone has a realistic perception about the state of the City.
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League table doesnt lie at this part of the season.
Finish where we are now and id be delighted.
Its a poorly put together squad.
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I don’t think the squad is as bad as some make out, yes we have some injuries and light upfront but I think we have enough. We obviously need a manager. As frustrating as the pen and red card was against QPR they looked like they were going to walk all over us anyway, but we will never know. The Swansea game we started brightly and again we will never know because of the red card.
I think Hudson had a couple of good results but to many alarm bells running, odd changes etc.
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I feel we are not in any danger of relegation.
It’ll be mid table obscurity
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Our last 2 games we’ve been down to 10 men after 7 minutes and 16 minutes (plus conceded a penalty) against 2 of the most inform teams in the league. We’d lost before we’d barely got going.
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I’ve said it numerous times, pick our best 11 and leave the deadwood in the stands
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Scoring a meagre 12 goals in 16 games tells the story. If that record doesn't improve it's very difficult to imagine how we can avoid relegation.
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BLUETIT
I’ve said it numerous times, pick our best 11 and leave the deadwood in the stands
What would your best 11 be?
I'd probably drop Ojo and Nkounkou for starters.
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BLUETIT
I’ve said it numerous times, pick our best 11 and leave the deadwood in the stands
The Deadwood Stage?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_xmujSyxkU
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blue lewj
What would your best 11 be?
I'd probably drop Ojo and Nkounkou for starters.
With Robinson missing 3. Your leaving out Ojo so from the Swansea 11. Nkounkou out as well.
So with Bagan injured who would you play at left back? Who comes in for Ojo and Robinson.?
The reality is the choices show the squad weakness.
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With the currently available players yes but our casualty list contains many first choice players, Collins, Romeo, Ng, Adams ….
If they were all available we’d be more of a threat.
However, having signed 17 players, with only one recognised striker was a huge mistake.
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Hilts
With Robinson missing 3. Your leaving out Ojo so from the Swansea 11. Nkounkou out as well.
So with Bagan injured who would you play at left back? Who comes in for Ojo and Robinson.?
The reality is the choices show the squad weakness.
Bagan played tonight
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Frustrating is how I'd describe us currently. We're not out-and-out shite and have showed small glimpses of exciting football but lack quality all 'round really.
We're a bit 'undefined' as a team, i.e. not known for either having a strong defence or a dangerous attack.
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B. Oddie
Frustrating is how I'd describe us currently. We're not out-and-out shite and have showed small glimpses of exciting football but lack quality all 'round really.
We're a bit 'undefined' as a team, i.e. not known for either having a strong defence or a dangerous attack.
And we’ve lost the set piece threat that has bailed us out for probably the last 20 years.
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Depends how bad people have been saying we are!
I think most see us as staring a dull 17th place squarely in the face.
I'm hoping for a bit of a cup run myself.
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Des Parrot
And we’ve lost the set piece threat that has bailed us out for probably the last 20 years.
We have no set piece threat whatsoever from being one of if not the best. Shocking.
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Des Parrot
Bagan played tonight
Hopefully fully fit and available for selection soon then.
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Hilts
We have no set piece threat whatsoever from being one of if not the best. Shocking.
No, it's not shocking. Shocking is how we've had to rely on set pieces for years as we've not known how to play football.
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Eric the Half a Bee
No, it's not shocking. Shocking is how we've had to rely on set pieces for years as we've not known how to play football.
Nah its shocking..
Now we aren't very good at football and useless at set pieces.
Brilliant.
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Taunton Blue Genie
My sister took me to see this film, at the Avenue Cinema, Ely, when I was about 9.
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the other bob wilson
A contributor to the feedback section of my blog posted this link in his reply to my piece on Sunday’s game.
https://www.whoscored.com/Regions/25...ship-2022-2023
If you look at the current form chart, you’ll see that, apart from Wigan who are bottom, the other five sides we’ve played with Mark Hudson in charge are all in the top six. Clearly, the three points they took against us is helping the jacks, QPR and Coventry get into such a lofty position, but it’s been a very tough introduction for Hudson.
For me, we’ve got a problem at left back and our goal scoring record has to improve (having only one winger making any sort of meaningful contribution doesn’t help in that regard), but, although I share the sense of doom and gloom when it comes to how the club is being run, I don’t think things on the pitch are as bad as many are painting them.
I know we lost 2-0 on Sunday and it could have been worse, but I felt we played better than either derby game last season, despite being down to 10 men. Had Sang's volley flown in things could have been different. Even at 1-0 down we never looked totally out of the game and created a couple of chances. Once it went 2-0 we were gone.
Earlier in the season we had the lowest number of attempts at goal. We've improved on that. Unfortunately we now have the lowest attempts on target of any team in the Championship and one of the highest attempts off target per game. We've got the lowest number of attempts at goal from inside the box in the division, which is a major concern. It demonstrates a lack of cutting edge, a lack of getting players into the box and a lack of creativity.
For me, this season is about building for the future, getting away from long ball bollocks and trying to play football. We should never revert back just because things are difficult. I think crowds this season have embraced what we're trying to do.
Our success this season will depend on our defensive work. If Colwell and Davies spark into life at some point, great. Those two will keep us up. We need to be difficult to beat but we have lost more games than all bar Huddersfield. I was more concerned by our defence after Sunday than our attack.
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
I know we lost 2-0 on Sunday and it could have been worse, but I felt we played better than either derby game last season, despite being down to 10 men. Had Sang's volley flown in things could have been different. Even at 1-0 down we never looked totally out of the game and created a couple of chances. Once it went 2-0 we were gone.
Earlier in the season we had the lowest number of attempts at goal. We've improved on that. Unfortunately we now have the lowest attempts on target of any team in the Championship and one of the highest attempts off target per game. We've got the lowest number of attempts at goal from inside the box in the division, which is a major concern. It demonstrates a lack of cutting edge, a lack of getting players into the box and a lack of creativity.
For me, this season is about building for the future, getting away from long ball bollocks and trying to play football. We should never revert back just because things are difficult. I think crowds this season have embraced what we're trying to do.
Our success this season will depend on our defensive work. If Colwell and Davies spark into life at some point, great. Those two will keep us up. We need to be difficult to beat but we have lost more games than all bar Huddersfield. I was more concerned by our defence after Sunday than our attack.
What attack? Apart from the Sang shot, we stopped attacking after 4 minutes. No wonder the defence’s deficiencies stood out.
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Dave Blue
What attack? Apart from the Sang shot, we stopped attacking after 4 minutes. No wonder the defence’s deficiencies stood out.
Before they scored their second I recall a header that went close from a set piece. I didn't say we had an attack, we were never going to against a passing team like them.
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Des Parrot
With the currently available players yes but our casualty list contains many first choice players, Collins, Romeo, Ng, Adams ….
If they were all available we’d be more of a threat.
However, having signed 17 players, with only one recognised striker was a huge mistake.
And one that almost everyone could see. Quite incredible really.