Re: 40 points after 32 games
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Just had a look over the last decade of Championship stats. We're in 14th position with 40 points, the highest a side with 40 points has been placed in the last 6 years.
No side with a similar points tally at this point as got to the playoffs.
Last season Reading had 41 points at this stage. Thanks to a points deduction they were relegated.
In 2019/20, Hull City had 41 points at this stage. They won 4 more points between then and the end of the season and finished bottom. In fact, they lost 16 of their last 20 league games in an incredible end of season crumble.
Collapses of that magnitude don't happen often. But it should act as a warning that, the sooner we get a couple of wins, the better. I'd start to worry if we go another 4 or 5 games and not pick up points. Losing at West Brom and Norwich was to be expected, but 11 defeats in our last 17 games has to get alarm bells ringing.
with who? the fans? the manager? the board?. not sure anyone cares
Re: 40 points after 32 games
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Originally Posted by
ToTaL ITK
with who? the fans? the manager? the board?. not sure anyone cares
Yep, and that's a dangerous position to be in.
Re: 40 points after 32 games
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Just had a look over the last decade of Championship stats. We're in 14th position with 40 points, the highest a side with 40 points has been placed in the last 6 years.
No side with a similar points tally at this point as got to the playoffs.
Last season Reading had 41 points at this stage. Thanks to a points deduction they were relegated.
In 2019/20, Hull City had 41 points at this stage. They won 4 more points between then and the end of the season and finished bottom. In fact, they lost 16 of their last 20 league games in an incredible end of season crumble.
Collapses of that magnitude don't happen often. But it should act as a warning that, the sooner we get a couple of wins, the better. I'd start to worry if we go another 4 or 5 games and not pick up points. Losing at West Brom and Norwich was to be expected, but 11 defeats in our last 17 games has to get alarm bells ringing.
I forget now which team it was, Palace? That were in the bottom 3 at Christmas and went up via the playoffs? How many points were they on at this point out of interest?
I think it’s been obvious for some time this isn’t a playoff team, we massively over achieved at the start.
Re: 40 points after 32 games
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Originally Posted by
2b2bdoo
I forget now which team it was, Palace? That were in the bottom 3 at Christmas and went up via the playoffs? How many points were they on at this point out of interest?
I think it’s been obvious for some time this isn’t a playoff team, we massively over achieved at the start.
47 points. I think momentum is a big thing as well. Our momentum is more like gravity.
Re: 40 points after 32 games
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Originally Posted by
2b2bdoo
I forget now which team it was, Palace? That were in the bottom 3 at Christmas and went up via the playoffs? How many points were they on at this point out of interest?
I think it’s been obvious for some time this isn’t a playoff team, we massively over achieved at the start.
Wasn't it Forest? Vague recollection of them being bottom or near bottom for a while then ending up in the playoffs.
Re: 40 points after 32 games
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
47 points. I think momentum is a big thing as well. Our momentum is more like gravity.
Confidence / momentum is huge and probably part of the reason we started well. Having Ramsey/ODowda, playing well and scoring. Others upped their game and it has that knock on effect. Now we have it in reverse and it’s hard to get out of.
Re: 40 points after 32 games
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Originally Posted by
nomad blue
Wasn't it Forest? Vague recollection of them being bottom or near bottom for a while then ending up in the playoffs.
Definitely Palace. In the bottom 3 in December 2003.
Forest had a crap start in 2021 but they were out of the bottom 3 in October
Re: 40 points after 32 games
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Definitely Palace. In the bottom 3 in December 2003.
Forest had a crap start in 2021 but they were out of the bottom 3 in October
2003 jeezzzz now I feel old.
Re: 40 points after 32 games
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Originally Posted by
2b2bdoo
2003 jeezzzz now I feel old.
Iain Dowie was their manager and I can remember them coming here towards the end of the season and winning 2-0. Dowie had a go at one of his players after the game - Julian Gray had been on loan to City earlier in the season and Dowie didn’t like it when Gray responded to City fans’ requests to do the Ayatollah.
Re: 40 points after 32 games
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Originally Posted by
2b2bdoo
I forget now which team it was, Palace? That were in the bottom 3 at Christmas and went up via the playoffs? How many points were they on at this point out of interest?
I think it’s been obvious for some time this isn’t a playoff team, we massively over achieved at the start.
It was Palace under Dowie. And guess who they beat to start off their great turnaround?
Re: 40 points after 32 games
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Iain Dowie was their manager and I can remember them coming here towards the end of the season and winning 2-0. Dowie had a go at one of his players after the game - Julian Gray had been on loan to City earlier in the season and Dowie didn’t like it when Gray responded to City fans’ requests to do the Ayatollah.
Yessss I remember that haha
Re: 40 points after 32 games
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Originally Posted by
ToTaL ITK
with who? the fans? the manager? the board?. not sure anyone cares
Bulut cares. This is his entry into the lucrative world of 'English' football management. Unless there's a rapid upturn in results it's his permanent exit as well..
