Re: Anybody but the Tories
So you'd like to see ukip or even the BNP govern the country. Interesting.
Re: Anybody but the Tories
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:32
Is this a valid political philosophy?
When I was being taught political ideologies in University, the tutor did not include Conservatism in the course - and he explained that the reason he did not do so was because in his view it does not count as a coherent political ideology. He may have a point but when I taught the a similar course later (many times) I did include it. But it was always 'the straw man'.
Re: Anybody but the Tories
The Conservatives haven't won a General Election for 23 years.
The Labour Party haven't won a General Election for 10 years.
Neither will win this General Election.
When the current older generation pass on and are replaced by the younger generation, I think we will see an even bigger shift in the political landscape.
Re: Anybody but the Tories
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:43
So you'd like to see ukip or even the BNP govern the country. Interesting.
Your words not mine.
Re: Anybody but the Tories
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:50
The Conservatives haven't won a General Election for 23 years.
There will be even more craters than there are now. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/homer.gif
Re: Anybody but the Tories
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:51
So you'd like to see ukip or even the BNP govern the country. Interesting.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:43
Your words not mine.
Of course they are my words as I made the post. The point still stands, you'd rather the fascists and nationalists running the country than the centre right
Re: Anybody but the Tories
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:53
So you'd like to see ukip or even the BNP govern the country. Interesting.
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:51
Your words not mine.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:43
Of course they are my words as I made the post. The point still stands, you'd rather the fascists and nationalists running the country than the centre right
I'd rather the party representing the majority of the people run the country.
Re: Anybody but the Tories
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:32
Is this a valid political philosophy?
who,d of guessed it http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
Re: Anybody but the Tories
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 20:02
So you'd like to see ukip or even the BNP govern the country. Interesting.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:53
Your words not mine.
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:51
Of course they are my words as I made the post. The point still stands, you'd rather the fascists and nationalists running the country than the centre right
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:43
I'd rather the party representing the majority of the people run the country.
When was the last time a party got more than 50% of the popular vote?
Re: Anybody but the Tories
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Originally Posted by packerman wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 20:03
Is this a valid political philosophy?
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:32
Even more exciting is the prospect of Labour not being able to govern on their own.
8/10 people are not satisfied with either of the main two political parties, and they view voting as selecting the least worst option.
Re: Anybody but the Tories
The first evidence of an election can be found on the walls of the Lascaux caves in south west France. The Palaeolithic paintings depict a primitive political manifesto which promises a fairer share of mammoth meat for all, smaller hunting class sizes for children and a free winter fuel bonus for the over fifteens.
Re: Anybody but the Tories
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Originally Posted by ian gibson wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 20:15
The first evidence of an election can be found on the walls of the Lascaux caves in south west France. The Palaeolithic paintings depict a primitive political manifesto which promises a fairer share of mammoth meat for all, smaller hunting class sizes for children and a free winter fuel bonus for the over fifteens.
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif class http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
Re: Anybody but the Tories
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Originally Posted by ian gibson wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 20:15
The first evidence of an election can be found on the walls of the Lascaux caves in south west France. The Palaeolithic paintings depict a primitive political manifesto which promises a fairer share of mammoth meat for all, smaller hunting class sizes for children and a free winter fuel bonus for the over fifteens.
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
Re: Anybody but the Tories
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 20:05
So you'd like to see ukip or even the BNP govern the country. Interesting.
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 20:02
Your words not mine.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:53
Of course they are my words as I made the post. The point still stands, you'd rather the fascists and nationalists running the country than the centre right
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:51
I'd rather the party representing the majority of the people run the country.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:43
When was the last time a party got more than 50% of the popular vote?
That's just my honest view.
Re: Anybody but the Tories
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 20:07
Is this a valid political philosophy?
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Originally Posted by packerman wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 20:03
Even more exciting is the prospect of Labour not being able to govern on their own.
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:32
i,m not voting for either http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
Re: Anybody but the Tories
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Originally Posted by Gwynedd Blue wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 20:24
So you'd like to see ukip or even the BNP govern the country. Interesting.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 20:05
Your words not mine.
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 20:02
Of course they are my words as I made the post. The point still stands, you'd rather the fascists and nationalists running the country than the centre right
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:53
I'd rather the party representing the majority of the people run the country.
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:51
When was the last time a party got more than 50% of the popular vote?
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:43
Not getting any better is it? And all because we know that whoever we vote for, fundamental things such as child poverty, poor working conditions, weak union/worker power enshrined in law, the huge redistribution of wealth from poor to rich, and so many other things that we don't want - will not go away, no matter who we vote for. Anyone who has lived more than a generation will know this.
If any party had the peoples interests first and not just a certain percentage of the population we could be an amazing nation,if any party are thinking of the country as a whole why such a difference in their policies http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/homer.gif
Re: Anybody but the Tories
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 20:05
So you'd like to see ukip or even the BNP govern the country. Interesting.
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 20:02
Your words not mine.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:53
Of course they are my words as I made the post. The point still stands, you'd rather the fascists and nationalists running the country than the centre right
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:51
I'd rather the party representing the majority of the people run the country.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:43
When was the last time a party got more than 50% of the popular vote?
1931
Re: Anybody but the Tories
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 20:02
So you'd like to see ukip or even the BNP govern the country. Interesting.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:53
Your words not mine.
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:51
Of course they are my words as I made the post. The point still stands, you'd rather the fascists and nationalists running the country than the centre right
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:43
I'd rather the party representing the majority of the people run the country.
There isn't a party that represents the majority of the people.
Re: Anybody but the Tories
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Originally Posted by RichardM wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 20:51
So you'd like to see ukip or even the BNP govern the country. Interesting.
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 20:02
Your words not mine.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:53
Of course they are my words as I made the post. The point still stands, you'd rather the fascists and nationalists running the country than the centre right
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:51
I'd rather the party representing the majority of the people run the country.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:43
There isn't a party that represents the majority of the people.
Or a grouping of parties http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
Re: Anybody but the Tories
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Originally Posted by jeepster wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 20:41
So you'd like to see ukip or even the BNP govern the country. Interesting.
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Originally Posted by Gwynedd Blue wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 20:24
Your words not mine.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 20:05
Of course they are my words as I made the post. The point still stands, you'd rather the fascists and nationalists running the country than the centre right
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 20:02
I'd rather the party representing the majority of the people run the country.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:53
When was the last time a party got more than 50% of the popular vote?
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:51
Not getting any better is it? And all because we know that whoever we vote for, fundamental things such as child poverty, poor working conditions, weak union/worker power enshrined in law, the huge redistribution of wealth from poor to rich, and so many other things that we don't want - will not go away, no matter who we vote for. Anyone who has lived more than a generation will know this.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:43
I remember that Tory maxim they used in the first Thatcher election campaign, I think it was that one. 'Labour isn't working' it said with pictures of people in dole queues.
It will only come from the grass roots and the current system needs to be swept away. The only trouble is nobody seems capable of organising it.
Re: Anybody but the Tories
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 21:05
So you'd like to see ukip or even the BNP govern the country. Interesting.
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Originally Posted by RichardM wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 20:51
Your words not mine.
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 20:02
Of course they are my words as I made the post. The point still stands, you'd rather the fascists and nationalists running the country than the centre right
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:53
I'd rather the party representing the majority of the people run the country.
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:51
There isn't a party that represents the majority of the people.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:43
Would you be happy then?
Re: Anybody but the Tories
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 21:07
So you'd like to see ukip or even the BNP govern the country. Interesting.
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 21:05
Your words not mine.
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Originally Posted by RichardM wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 20:51
Of course they are my words as I made the post. The point still stands, you'd rather the fascists and nationalists running the country than the centre right
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 20:02
I'd rather the party representing the majority of the people run the country.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:53
There isn't a party that represents the majority of the people.
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Originally Posted by Gluey wrote on Fri, 01 May 2015 19:51
Not happy but I would grudgingly accept it http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/Dsmile.gif
