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By which legal authority does UK special forces have to be in Syria?
Syria is a sovereign country with a seat at the United Nations and embassy's all around the world. I'm not unpatriotic in the slightest, but sending British troops into a sovereign country without them being invited by the government of that country is an act of war. Parliament hasn't debated and decided in favour of this. The British people have not been consulted on it. What if the Syrian forces decide to retaliate against British targets abroad? What do we do then?
This is sheer madness, something that we should be contacting our MP's about and demand that they get answers from the Ministry of Defence in double quick time, otherwise we could very quickly find ourselves sucked into something that we are unable to get out of very easily.
https://uprootedpalestinians.wordpre...o-be-in-syria/
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Don't know, but IF the story is true, I would imagine there are operational security reasons why you and I haven't been informed about it.
Unfortunately, all the BBC have achieved is to put a bigger target on their backs, and the backs of every British citizen. Nice.
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TH63
Don't know, but IF the story is true, I would imagine there are operational security reasons why you and I haven't been informed about it.
Unfortunately, all the BBC have achieved is to put a bigger target on their backs, and the backs of every British citizen. Nice.
Irrelevant! It's an act of war, pure and simple. We have not been invited into Syria by the legal and legitimate government of that country.
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Re: By which legal authority does UK special forces have to be in Syria?
Do you know that for certain? 100% that there has not been an agreement to allow UK forces to target ISIS? How can you be 100% certain there is not a top secret agreement between Assad government and the UK USA governments to be allowed to target ISIS, on the basis they dont attack Assads forces?
Dont you think it is a bit weird to go to war with someone and not attack their forces? I sure do.
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Barry Dragon
Do you know that for certain? 100% that there has not been an agreement to allow UK forces to target ISIS? How can you be 100% certain there is not a top secret agreement between Assad government and the UK USA governments to be allowed to target ISIS, on the basis they dont attack Assads forces?
Dont you think it is a bit weird to go to war with someone and not attack their forces? I sure do.
British forces have crossed from Jordon, not from a seaport or airport in Syria. It's hardly likely seeing as Cameron lost a vote in the HoC about engaging in a bombing campaign against ISIS, on the pretext that we would be assisting the mythical army of '70,000 moderates' that nobody has ever seen.
The only effective forces in Syria are the Russians who are there with the full support of the Syrian government. The so called 'Free Syrian Army' may well be fighting ISIS (there are about 30 different armed groups in Syria) but they certainly are also the sworn enemies of the Syrian government forces.
Maybe having a word with our 'allies' Israel to stop helping with Jihadi fighting groups might work just as well?
https://uprootedpalestinians.wordpre...ting-in-syria/
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Splott Dave
This is sheer madness, something that we should be contacting our MP's about and demand that they get answers from the Ministry of Defence in double quick time, otherwise we could very quickly find ourselves sucked into something that we are unable to get out of very easily.
https://uprootedpalestinians.wordpre...o-be-in-syria/
You made me laugh there when you said we should contact our MPs. Unless that was a joke I think you are only an apprentice conspiratorialist. Nearly all the MPs have been bought and paid for. Most of them are just idiots anyway. They are just doing what they have been told to do. As long as they keep their mouths shut and don't cause any trouble they will be allowed to milk the system. Anyone who questions things – e.g. George Galloway – is ridiculed and sidelined.
If anyone thinks we are there to fight ISIS then they've got a screw loose. We have created ISIS and we are arming them. The SAS are only there to get rid of the rightfully elected leader of Syria. The SAS are fighting Assad on behalf of foreign powers. They are not fighting for us. They have gone rogue.
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Splott Dave
British forces have crossed from Jordon, not from a seaport or airport in Syria. It's hardly likely seeing as Cameron lost a vote in the HoC about engaging in a bombing campaign against ISIS, on the pretext that we would be assisting the mythical army of '70,000 moderates' that nobody has ever seen.
The only effective forces in Syria are the Russians who are there with the full support of the Syrian government. The so called 'Free Syrian Army' may well be fighting ISIS (there are about 30 different armed groups in Syria) but they certainly are also the sworn enemies of the Syrian government forces.
Maybe having a word with our 'allies' Israel to stop helping with Jihadi fighting groups might work just as well?
https://uprootedpalestinians.wordpre...ting-in-syria/
Here we go....
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David Vincent
You made me laugh there when you said we should contact our MPs. Unless that was a joke I think you are only an apprentice conspiratorialist. Nearly all the MPs have been bought and paid for. Most of them are just idiots anyway. They are just doing what they have been told to do. As long as they keep their mouths shut and don't cause any trouble they will be allowed to milk the system. Anyone who questions things – e.g. George Galloway – is ridiculed and sidelined.
If anyone thinks we are there to fight ISIS then they've got a screw loose. We have created ISIS and we are arming them. The SAS are only there to get rid of the rightfully elected leader of Syria. The SAS are fighting Assad on behalf of foreign powers. They are not fighting for us. They have gone rogue.
I do matinee performances here, the real hard stuff is over on my Twitter account.
:hehe::hehe::hehe:
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TH63
Here we go....
Were you expecting anything else :hehe:
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Splott Dave
British forces have crossed from Jordon, not from a seaport or airport in Syria. It's hardly likely seeing as Cameron lost a vote in the HoC about engaging in a bombing campaign against ISIS, on the pretext that we would be assisting the mythical army of '70,000 moderates' that nobody has ever seen.
The only effective forces in Syria are the Russians who are there with the full support of the Syrian government. The so called 'Free Syrian Army' may well be fighting ISIS (there are about 30 different armed groups in Syria) but they certainly are also the sworn enemies of the Syrian government forces.
Maybe having a word with our 'allies' Israel to stop helping with Jihadi fighting groups might work just as well?
https://uprootedpalestinians.wordpre...ting-in-syria/
So you know nothing? Why would they use an airbase with increased risks of being shot down?
So you can atleast agree on the principle that there is a top secret agreement in place to allow UK ground troops and airforce to enter syria on the principle they are there to attack ISIS only.
And why are you talking to yourself again?
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Barry Dragon
So you know nothing? Why would they use an airbase with increased risks of being shot down?
So you can atleast agree on the principle that there is a top secret agreement in place to allow UK ground troops and airforce to enter syria on the principle they are there to attack ISIS only.
And why are you talking to yourself again?
Who is attacking ISIS? ISIS is a creation and a response to Western foolishness in the Middle East. There is more than enough information around to show that Al-Qaeda affiliated groups are being supported by USA, Britain, Turkey and Israel in their attempts to overthrow the legitimate government of Syria.
https://uprootedpalestinians.wordpre...ists-in-syria/
https://uprootedpalestinians.wordpre...ting-in-syria/
https://uprootedpalestinians.wordpre...-in-testimony/
http://www.whatsupic.com/news-politi...469091231.html
http://aanirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2016/...d-moslems.html
https://www.rt.com/news/327701-isis-turkey-oil-trade/
http://www.mintpressnews.com/211910-2/211910/
You need to concentrate on discussing issues and topics on a message board rather than attacking other posters.
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Re: By which legal authority does UK special forces have to be in Syria?
A blog operated by half a dozen people called "uprooted palestinians" is hardly a paragon of unbiased and accurate reporting is it now?
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TH63
A blog operated by half a dozen people called "uprooted palestinians" is hardly a paragon of unbiased and accurate reporting is it now?
You wouldn't have to look very far to find plenty of alternative news sites featuring information on these issues that you won't see on Sky News, or read in the Daily Mail. If you intend to rely on being informed by mainstream media, you're going to be sadly disappointed and remain uninformed about events.
You can do the research yourself...
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TH63
A blog operated by half a dozen people called "uprooted palestinians" is hardly a paragon of unbiased and accurate reporting is it now?
President Putin exposes the criminal stupidity that the West has been involved in during the last few years of its interference in the Middle East.
https://themarshallreport.wordpress....ast-and-syria/
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Splott Dave
I dont believe such propaganda, such one sided views cant be believed by anyone that doesn't have an agenda.
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Splott Dave
Only reading the headline. Yes America have admitted they co-operated with some wrong groups. I have seen it in the press. With so many groups its possible mistakes will have been made. They have admitted such already.
And Russia will put out such propaganda like this whether there is truth to it or not. Cant expect Russia to be supporting what america does can you!
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Barry Dragon
I dont believe such propaganda, such one sided views cant be believed by anyone that doesn't have an agenda.
So you believe Western media propaganda instead? You're happy with the Western media's regurgitation of its government's agenda? We're not the good guys in this. It's not a noble cause that our governments are involved in you know.
It's not about 'believing propaganda' it's about doing the research for yourself.
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Splott Dave
So you believe Western media propaganda instead? You're happy with the Western media's regurgitation of its government's agenda? We're not the good guys in this. It's not a noble cause that our governments are involved in you know.
It's not about 'believing propaganda' it's about doing the research for yourself.
No I dont, why do you have to believe in 1 side of the propaganda or the other? Its obvious you believe 1 side of the propaganda and seem to devote your life to believing it. Certainly manage to devote this forum to your beliefs, even dedicating (at least) 2 accounts to discussing it. Why do conspiracy people believe you have to believe in 1 side of the propaganda or the tother. Why cant you see through the shit of all sides?
Look it has gone on for thousands of years. It will most likely go no for a thousands more. What have you achieved by dedicating your life to believing what other people's opinion written in the form of a blog, or some other publication?
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Barry Dragon
I dont believe such propaganda, such one sided views cant be believed by anyone that doesn't have an agenda.
One of the world's foremost investigative journalists is John Pilger who is ex-BBC. Here he is talking about Syria to Afshin Rattansi back in December 2015.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwLX7k57_8U
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Barry Dragon
No I dont, why do you have to believe in 1 side of the propaganda or the other? Its obvious you believe 1 side of the propaganda and seem to devote your life to believing it. Certainly manage to devote this forum to your beliefs, even dedicating (at least) 2 accounts to discussing it. Why do conspiracy people believe you have to believe in 1 side of the propaganda or the tother. Why cant you see through the shit of all sides?
Look it has gone on for thousands of years. It will most likely go no for a thousands more. What have you achieved by dedicating your life to believing what other people's opinion written in the form of a blog, or some other publication?
Explain to me who is twisting your arm up your back and forcing you to read my posts and I'll have a word with them?
I'll help you out if you like and just put you on ignore.
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Splott Dave
Explain to me who is twisting your arm up your back and forcing you to read my posts and I'll have a word with them?
I'll help you out if you like and just put you on ignore.
Been coming on here for many a year like you. Can I ask why you are flooding the forum with post that no-one really has anything to say about as they dont care. The only ones who care are you and your other accounts. And although you seem to get a nice conversation going between you and yourself. No-one cares. Why keep posting this crap, cant you just keep flooding twitter.
Are you Gluey is another disguise, as you never answer anyones queries /questions they have about what you have to say. You change the topic every time, can you try and backup what you are saying when someone questions it?
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Splott Dave
And they have admitted as such in the press. They have said they have made mistakes, and have funded organisations that have since been associated with ISIS.
What do you think of the middle eastern states openly funding these organisations? Are these states doing the devils work? The UK has admitted its mistakes, these middle eastern states have openly funded them. What is your opinion on this?
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Barry Dragon
Been coming on here for many a year like you. Can I ask why you are flooding the forum with post that no-one really has anything to say about as they dont care. The only ones who care are you and your other accounts. And although you seem to get a nice conversation going between you and yourself. No-one cares. Why keep posting this crap, cant you just keep flooding twitter.
Are you Gluey is another disguise, as you never answer anyones queries /questions they have about what you have to say. You change the topic every time, can you try and backup what you are saying when someone questions it?
This is a political forum unless it's escaped your attention. My interest in football starts when the whistle blows.
You may as well criticise why some are posting on the Welsh Forum.
There are no other accounts and you should learn to present arguments if you want to get involved in debates on issues, instead of just being irrationally argumentative.
The only way that your position would make any kind of sense, is if you had countervailing evidence to dispute the information that's been put forward.
Explain to me who has stopped you from posting your own topics in a political forum devoted to, funnily enough, political issues in all of their many forms.
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Barry Dragon
And they have admitted as such in the press. They have said they have made mistakes, and have funded organisations that have since been associated with ISIS.
What do you think of the middle eastern states openly funding these organisations? Are these states doing the devils work? The UK has admitted its mistakes, these middle eastern states have openly funded them. What is your opinion on this?
Explain to me where the UK has admitted its mistakes, when Cameron called for a bombing campaign on Syria which was defeated in parliament?
