Load of hogwash from the anti-Kodi, Colonel Whitehouse brigade on here.....

Many Kodi devices come pre-loaded with third party plug-ins and add-ons that allow users to stream pirated content to their TV. It is selling these "fully loaded" TV set-top devices that is a breach of the Copyright, Designs and Patent Act 1988.

If you download an illegally copied file, that would constitute copyright infringement. However, when you stream something online, the file is stored only temporarily on your computer - and temporary copies are exempt from copyright laws. In a landmark ruling in 2014, the Court of Justice of the European Union ruled that internet users who look at copyrighted material online aren't breaking the law by doing so, citing Article 5.1 of the EU Copyright Directive.

"It is extremely unlikely that the football authorities would pursue cases against individuals who watch games in this manner with the more desirable avenue to bring claims directly against the file sharing sites through the ISPs."

As I bet responsibly and stream responsibly, I bought an unloaded box and also installed Kodi on my laptop myself. I can watch (but certainly not download streams) with a totally clean conscience - unlike those sanctimonious types who spread fear and despondency on Friday - and then watch streams on Saturday.

(Of course, the above does not apply to ill-advised folk who have bought a fully-loaded Kodi box in the last two months. They will be hurled into Purgatory where they will spend eternity watching a perpetually buffering City game)

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Originally Posted by Cyclops

Many Kodi devices come pre-loaded with third party plug-ins and add-ons that allow users to stream pirated content to their TV. It is selling these "fully loaded" TV set-top devices that is a breach of the Copyright, Designs and Patent Act 1988.

If you download an illegally copied file, that would constitute copyright infringement. However, when you stream something online, the file is stored only temporarily on your computer - and temporary copies are exempt from copyright laws. In a landmark ruling in 2014, the Court of Justice of the European Union ruled that internet users who look at copyrighted material online aren't breaking the law by doing so, citing Article 5.1 of the EU Copyright Directive.

"It is extremely unlikely that the football authorities would pursue cases against individuals who watch games in this manner with the more desirable avenue to bring claims directly against the file sharing sites through the ISPs."

As I bet responsibly and stream responsibly, I bought an unloaded box and also installed Kodi on my laptop myself. I can watch (but certainly not download streams) with a totally clean conscience - unlike those sanctimonious types who spread fear and despondency on Friday - and then watch streams on Saturday.

(Of course, the above does not apply to ill-advised folk who have bought a fully-loaded Kodi box in the last two months. They will be hurled into Purgatory where they will spend eternity watching a perpetually buffering City game)

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Please elucidate regarding copyright not applying to temporary files. Are you referring to recordings made for 'timeshift' purposes?

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Originally Posted by Cyclops

Many Kodi devices come pre-loaded with third party plug-ins and add-ons that allow users to stream pirated content to their TV. It is selling these "fully loaded" TV set-top devices that is a breach of the Copyright, Designs and Patent Act 1988.

If you download an illegally copied file, that would constitute copyright infringement. However, when you stream something online, the file is stored only temporarily on your computer - and temporary copies are exempt from copyright laws. In a landmark ruling in 2014, the Court of Justice of the European Union ruled that internet users who look at copyrighted material online aren't breaking the law by doing so, citing Article 5.1 of the EU Copyright Directive.

"It is extremely unlikely that the football authorities would pursue cases against individuals who watch games in this manner with the more desirable avenue to bring claims directly against the file sharing sites through the ISPs."

As I bet responsibly and stream responsibly, I bought an unloaded box and also installed Kodi on my laptop myself. I can watch (but certainly not download streams) with a totally clean conscience - unlike those sanctimonious types who spread fear and despondency on Friday - and then watch streams on Saturday.

(Of course, the above does not apply to ill-advised folk who have bought a fully-loaded Kodi box in the last two months. They will be hurled into Purgatory where they will spend eternity watching a perpetually buffering City game)

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It doesn't perpetually buffer if you look in the right places. Which is usually the same sources Kodi uses.

streaming always used to be a " grey area " of the law

have they changed the law on it then ? ? ? ?

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Originally Posted by blue matt

streaming always used to be a " grey area " of the law

have they changed the law on it then ? ? ? ?

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In what way was it 'grey'?

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Originally Posted by Cyclops

Many Kodi devices come pre-loaded with third party plug-ins and add-ons that allow users to stream pirated content to their TV. It is selling these "fully loaded" TV set-top devices that is a breach of the Copyright, Designs and Patent Act 1988.

If you download an illegally copied file, that would constitute copyright infringement. However, when you stream something online, the file is stored only temporarily on your computer - and temporary copies are exempt from copyright laws. In a landmark ruling in 2014, the Court of Justice of the European Union ruled that internet users who look at copyrighted material online aren't breaking the law by doing so, citing Article 5.1 of the EU Copyright Directive.

"It is extremely unlikely that the football authorities would pursue cases against individuals who watch games in this manner with the more desirable avenue to bring claims directly against the file sharing sites through the ISPs."

As I bet responsibly and stream responsibly, I bought an unloaded box and also installed Kodi on my laptop myself. I can watch (but certainly not download streams) with a totally clean conscience - unlike those sanctimonious types who spread fear and despondency on Friday - and then watch streams on Saturday.

(Of course, the above does not apply to ill-advised folk who have bought a fully-loaded Kodi box in the last two months. They will be hurled into Purgatory where they will spend eternity watching a perpetually buffering City game)

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:hehe:

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

In what way was it 'grey'?

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we never really had a specific law against it

youtube used to use copyright to take it down from youtube as they were the host and were the one's breaking the law, the viewer never was ( in this country )

when watching something hosted in a country that has different laws, then which law applies, i used to know someone who used to run a music DL site, it was based ( hosted ) in the Ukraine, they used to have a " fund " for musicians and you used to pay to use the site and a small % of your payment went to that " fund " , so it was legal, yet we know DL'ing eminem's latest album for 3 quid was never legal ( though it was in the ukraine due to this payment to the fund )

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Originally Posted by blue matt

we never really had a specific law against it

youtube used to use copyright to take it down from youtube as they were the host and were the one's breaking the law, the viewer never was ( in this country )

when watching something hosted in a country that has different laws, then which law applies, i used to know someone who used to run a music DL site, it was based ( hosted ) in the Ukraine, they used to have a " fund " for musicians and you used to pay to use the site and a small % of your payment went to that " fund " , so it was legal, yet we know DL'ing eminem's latest album for 3 quid was never legal ( though it was in the ukraine due to this payment to the fund )

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I don't understand a word of that. And I work in Intellectual Property :-)

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

I don't understand a word of that. Surely any copyright infringement is in the act of reproducing (i.e. downloading) wherever the original file was hosted.

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I'm sure the distinction will serve Cyclops well in his animal porn trial.

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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi

I'm sure the distinction will serve Cyclops well in his animal porn trial.

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