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Well worth a listen this if you have the time;-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p072pb2s
You might think what Messrs Gabbidon and Roberts say is a load of nonsense, but I think ex pros can notice when things aren't right at a club and, sadly, I reckon there's something to do what they say.
Recently we've had rotten luck. We could have easily gone in level against Watford and then it's a different game. We started really well at Molineux and then it rained goals for our opponents again. It must be demoralising to put so much effort in only to see us exposed at this level.
Personally I think Neil always knew we'd struggle to finish higher than bottom but given the way things have played out it feels like we've had everything snatched away from us.
Football is a funny old game and this would be one of the great football stories if we pull it off.
I think the insipid performance against Everton has all but killed us off. Warnock reverted to type with his team selection and the players didn't back him up. Starting Niasse, Zohore and Decordova-Reid at Wolves was the desperate decision of a manager who has run out of ideas.
So now you are criticising him for trying something different after two defeats. Fans have been calling for Zohore and Niasse to start together for ages, so what exactly is desperate about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy
Throwing on three strikers after two heavy defeats where we garnered one goal is a sign of desperation, surely even you can see that?Quote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
Am I the only one who finds it odd he only changes the front 3 during games
I'm not knocking Warnock just stating something I found perplexing. All I'd say is to play three in midfield (Gunnars, Ralls and Camarasa) when Wolves played five (3-5-2) was strange.Quote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
Not surprisingly I think the Sala tragedy has really affected him.
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The Sala tragedy has knocked the stuffing out of him so it seems. I wonder if his alleged ‘friendship’ with the McKay’s and the decidedly dodgy signings of the McKay twins, which seems to confirm a you scratch my back relationship, are preying on his mind, a lot of ‘what ifs’ & ‘if onlys’ may be swimming around in his head as well as trying to gee his football team up in a bitter relegation battle. All at 70 odd years of age, lesser men may have said ‘f*ck it’Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve the Tea
Messrs Gabbidon and Roberts coudn't manage a corner shop,
**** me.Some of our fans have thrown the towel in with 9 games to go.
Too right ......if we do go down it won't be Neil Warnock's faultQuote:
Originally Posted by dandywarhol
So we need to score more goals right. Your answer to that would be to play more defenders ?Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
I find it beyond odd, that we played well for 3 games running, winning the last 2 and then completely changed tactics, positions and accommodated players, as well as dropping the best player from those three games in Bobby Reid. I also find it even more odd that we haven't gone back to what worked.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamieccfc
There was illness in the squad before the Watford match, so we had limited options. I think Reid was one of those affected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
The team selection against Everton is the one that has really pissed me off. That is when we should have gone back to what had been working.
Putting more strikers on the pitch doesn’t mean more goals though does it? We were creating nothing in the two previous games.Quote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
I want Warnock here next season but that doesn’t mean I’m not going to say when he does something wrong.
Neil, over the past 2 years, has been on an emotional rollercoaster!!!!
He’s had his wife’s illness to contend with, keeping us fans happy, plus as we all know, in the last few months, the terrible tragedy that struck us all (unless you are heartless)
At 70 years of age, god knows how he has coped, as I’m filling up just writing this !!!
The man is a godsend to us and a perfect fit (for most) Cardiff fans.
I hope he stays forever in some capacity, because as I’ve stated, “He is the perfect fit”
Relegation or not, who gives a shit, most of us have “been there, done that”, let’s do it again as a family .
No ONE MAN is bigger than the club, but this is not just “one man”, this is OUR OWN “NEIL WARNOCK” !!!!
Saved our club, when we were dying on our feet, biggest cheer on Saturday should be for him, to show that we are totally behind him, his back room staff and players
Don’t know if you noticed but we conceded 8 goals in two games before Wolves so maybe more defenders would have been a good ideaQuote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
So you think goals and chances are created by just throwing on more attackers?Quote:
Originally Posted by dml1954
I get that there's been issues but we've changed three times now, and none of them is back to what worked! It took us 25 games or so to get to a style that worked, and then we've consigned it to the dustbin. God, it's annoyed me.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy
Rotten luck? We can spend ages considering what might have been. The fact that we're talking about not taking a few crumbs says everything. We only moan about the penalty appeal against Watford because that was as good as it got for us in that first half. We created nothing. Would it have been a game changer? Sorry, but I can't see that. We were comprehensively outplayed. We got a freak penalty against Man Utd that might have got us back into the game, but it only inspired Man Utd and we got hammered. I reckon the same would have happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shute
We're a side that needs to take a lot of our chances because we don't make that many. That's not rotten luck, that's not being good enough.
Not just the fact that he only changes them, but the players he chooses to take off. There was a game recently where he took off Reid first who was having one his best games to that point. And the only one of the front three that finished the game was Paterson. The one playing out of position.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamieccfc
AbsolutelyQuote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Absolutely. Plus we started the 2nd half v Watford well so the non penalty didn't kill us off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
That would have been our piss poor defending that did that.
I wrote somewhere in the days following the Watford match that, even if that penalty had been given and we'd scored it, it only would have meant that the score was 1-1 and not 0-1 when we sent nearly all of our team forward for an attacking free kick which Joe Bennett underhit so poorly that more than half of our side was taken out of the game in a second - within no time at all, we would have been either 0-2 or 1-2 down and we would have been chasing the game either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Father Dougal
LI respect your hypothetical take on the game, BUT hypothetically, we could have been 1-0 up in 40 seconds and we all seen how Watford fell apart at Liverpool 4 days later. (ok, I know it’s Liverpool)Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
GOALS change games and we are desperate for goals at any time, so to be denied what could have been one must be disheartening for the players