Be Careful Hate Crime v Cyclist's
	
	
		There is a campaigner for abuse of cyclists to be made a hate crime , be alert, don't lash out I'd  hate to see one caught out shouting  if you see a cyclists jumping a red light ,mounting a pavement or overtaking your passenger side .
	 
	
	
	
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				Originally Posted by 
life on mars
				
			 
			There is a campaigner for abuse of cyclists to be made a hate crime , be alert, don't lash out I'd  hate to see one caught out shouting  if you see a cyclists jumping a red light ,mounting a pavement or overtaking your passenger side .
			
		
	 
 You left out, “holding on to the roof of your car at traffic jams/lights”
	 
	
	
	
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BLUETIT
				
			 
			You left out, “holding on to the roof of your car at traffic jams/lights”
			
		
	 
 I was once taken over badly on that very busy roundabout by Llanishen Morrisons, they were a  couple either side of my care I  nearly hit the lady on my passenger side  as I was concentrating on her partner and traffic to the right , she then gave me the V's , thankfully I did catch up with both of them  further on for a chat.
	 
	
	
	
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		Don't worry. The way this Council is going, there will soon be cycle routes everywhere, even if they have to rip up the roads to do it.
	 
	
	
	
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				Originally Posted by 
life on mars
				
			 
			There is a campaigner for abuse of cyclists to be made a hate crime , be alert, don't lash out I'd  hate to see one caught out shouting  if you see a cyclists jumping a red light ,mounting a pavement or overtaking your passenger side .
			
		
	 
 Drivers never do any of those things do they cos they're all perfect. (Apart from the taxi driver who overtook me last Sunday, giving me so little room, that I could have slapped his car if I'd wanted to)
	 
	
	
	
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		Cyclists are devils in lycra......(this is tongue in cheek by the way)......... mostly
	 
	
	
	
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tforturton
				
			 
			Don't worry. The way this Council is going, there will soon be cycle routes everywhere
			
		
	 
 OH MY GOD THOSE SICK BASTARDS THAT SOUNDS LIKE HELL ON EARTH
	 
	
	
	
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tforturton
				
			 
			Don't worry. The way this Council is going, there will soon be cycle routes everywhere, even if they have to rip up the roads to do it.
			
		
	 
 There is, have to not seen the plans for Cathays terrace up to the Heath?
	 
	
	
	
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				Originally Posted by 
The Bloop
				
			 
			Drivers never do any of those things do they cos they're all perfect. (Apart from the taxi driver who overtook me last Sunday, giving me so little room, that I could have slapped his car if I'd wanted to)
			
		
	 
 of course they do,  the OP  was about the campaign to make it a hate crime for abuse uttered to poor old  cycling folk
	 
	
	
	
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tforturton
				
			 
			Don't worry. The way this Council is going, there will soon be cycle routes everywhere, even if they have to rip up the roads to do it.
			
		
	 
 Imagine that, a capital city behaving like one.
	 
	
	
	
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				Originally Posted by 
life on mars
				
			 
			of course they do,  the OP  was about the campaign to make it a hate crime for abuse uttered to poor old  cycling folk
			
		
	 
 Theres also a call for a presumed liability law, where in any accident involving a bike and a motorised vehicle means the driver is presumed to be at fault, unless it can be proved otherwise.  It's quite common in other countries.
	 
	
	
	
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The Bloop
				
			 
			Theres also a call for a presumed liability law, where in any accident involving a bike and a motorised vehicle means the driver is presumed to be at fault, unless it can be proved otherwise.  It's quite common in other countries.
			
		
	 
 In which case let's hope that never comes to pass; I don't think you can presume anything
	 
	
	
	
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		If cyclists paid road tax and had to have insurance then perhaps they would get a more sympathetic reaction from other road users.
And cyclists who ride on the pavement and ride across pedestrian crossings expecting the traffic to stop as if they are pedestrians, ride the wrong way on one one streets, jump traffic lights etc. should be fined and they should have a licence so points could be deducted until they'd have to chain their bike to their garden fence and leave it there for 6 months.