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    I'm looking at a Les Paul for the boy for Christmas, and wanted to know if there's much difference between an Epiphone and Gibson, seeing as they are the same company?

    Also, what pedals should I get him? I'm thinking delay and overdrive to start him off.
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    What age is the player? I'd start off with a good replica if I was you. For example, if you were looking at Fenders, you'd probably buy a Squier copy for a beginner. Great guitar, half the price (or less). Pedals have their uses, but they make you lazy. Learn to play the thing first.

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    • #3
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      He already has a fender telecaster and stratocaster, he's 14 and has been playing for a few years - he's pretty decent so a few pedals will add to his repertoire

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        The Gibson is a better guitar in all categories except the price. But the more you pay for an Epiphone, the closer it gets to the 'real thing'. Pay £500 and it's pretty close to the level of a basement Gibson. Then again, an American made Gibson will always be a better investment, as it's going to hold it's value much better, as long as it's looked after properly. So there's the question, will a fourteen year old look after an expensive Gibson?
        Sounds like the kid is going to be spoilt for choice. They're a very different guitar to the Fenders you mention. What about a hollow-body Tele? That's a great guitar.

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          Is the hollow body guitar exactly what it says - a bit more light weight?

          How different is the sound,

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            Originally posted by Feedback View Post
            Is the hollow body guitar exactly what it says - a bit more light weight?

            How different is the sound,
            More acoustic , indeed

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            • #7
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              Geordie out of killing joke used a hollow body I believe

              What a guitar sound he had

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                If he's got a Strat and Telecaster why does he need a Les Paul? He owns the best already. I owned a 1963 Strat at one time. Great guitar. Cost me £150 and now worth a lot more. However, if resale value is of interest, which I doubt, buy the Gibson. Epiphone is seen as an inferior brand and you know what kids are like; they always want the best.

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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by Vindec View Post
                  If he's got a Strat and Telecaster why does he need a Les Paul? He owns the best already. I owned a 1963 Strat at one time. Great guitar. Cost me £150 and now worth a lot more. However, if resale value is of interest, which I doubt, buy the Gibson. Epiphone is seen as an inferior brand and you know what kids are like; they always want the best.
                  My thinking is he can experiment with different sounds.

                  I know nothing about guitars.

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by Feedback View Post
                    My thinking is he can experiment with different sounds.

                    I know nothing about guitars.
                    I don't like Les Paul's. The sound is so clean every mistake is noticeable. If I were you I wouldn't buy a guitar for your son as he has two great guitars at the moment. Why don't you go into a music shop and ask them to make you up a pedal board with 4 or 5 pedals. That won't be cheap but would enable your son to experiment with different sounds.

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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by Vindec View Post
                      I don't like Les Paul's. The sound is so clean every mistake is noticeable. If I were you I wouldn't buy a guitar for your son as he has two great guitars at the moment. Why don't you go into a music shop and ask them to make you up a pedal board with 4 or 5 pedals. That won't be cheap but would enable your son to experiment with different sounds.
                      Thats an option. What pedals would you suggest?

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                      • #12
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                        Why lock yourself in to Gibson/Epiphone and pedals?
                        I've got several guitars and I'd recommend a Yamaha Revstar. I've got the RS620 and RS820. They are seriously great guitars. Only today in Guitarist mag I read 'it's probably one of the best examples of a 'sleeper' range we can think of' and even the editor has just bought one. Check out some of the Youtube videos that feature the range and often compare them with Gibsons.
                        As regards pedals, again why not go for something different. I've recently bought a BOSS GT-1 Guitar Effects Processor and it gives access to a huge of sounds with a pedal to boot. See them demonstrated on Youtube also.

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by tforturton View Post
                          What age is the player? I'd start off with a good replica if I was you. For example, if you were looking at Fenders, you'd probably buy a Squier copy for a beginner. Great guitar, half the price (or less). Pedals have their uses, but they make you lazy. Learn to play the thing first.
                          Didn't know you played, mush! Think of all those half-times when we could've nattered about gear an' stuff!

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                            Originally posted by Feedback View Post
                            Thats an option. What pedals would you suggest?
                            I'm so out of date that I would defer to others with more recent experience. The best pedal around in my time was a Zoom with multiple sounds which is 1970s technology and absolutely no good for playing at live gigs.

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                            • #15
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                              What sort of guitarist is he? What sort of music does he listen to? Has he specifically mentioned an interest in a Gibson hollow or semi-hollow body guitar? How old is he? Have you thought about just getting him a gift voucher for a music shop? Most guitarists would know what sort of sound they were looking for and would already have a wish-list for pedals. What sort of amp does he use?

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