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People in Wales will need to show a pass proving they have been fully vaccinated or had a negative Covid test to attend clubs and large-scale events.
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People in Wales will need to show a pass proving they have been fully vaccinated or had a negative Covid test to attend clubs and large-scale events. -
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Terrible idea, and I've been double jabbed.
Just because you have the vaccines doesn't mean you don't have covid.
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Is it really a breach of human rights to require proof that you are not carrying/or likely not to have the virus before walking into a crowd?Originally posted by Armitage Shanks View PostComment
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But you are much less likely to have covid if vaccinated.Originally posted by Armitage Shanks View PostComment
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Which Human Right is being breached?Originally posted by Armitage Shanks View Post
If I was going to an event I'd feel much more comfortable knowing that everyone else there has either been double jabbed or had a recent negative test.Comment
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Totally agree.Originally posted by Armitage Shanks View Post
I also query how much this will work, if it pushes people into staying home in house parties etc.
I'm particularly pissed off about him continuing to discourage any working in the office, which is causing damage economically and mentally to many.
This is the most disappointed I've been with the Welsh Govt over all this, and I do recognise how difficult it all is.Comment
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It's also economically and mentally helping manyOriginally posted by JamesWales View PostComment
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It may be, although I would personally say the long term implications of complete WFH are a mental health time bomb, esp given those people took jobs in offices in the past (and are thus OK with it in principle).Originally posted by delmbox View Post
However, I digress and fundamentally I agree with you...
...In which case - let the businesses decide. Let them decide whats safe; at the very least say office workers need to show proof of being double vaccinated.
Seems absurd to discourage any safe office work, yet allow 'safe' nightclubs. Some people are going through absolute hell stuck at home in totally unsuitable environmentsComment
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This is what I don't get. If the vaccines don't stop people getting covid and transmitting covid but they are effective at stopping serious illness what is the need for vaccine passports? In other words those who are vaccinated are protected from serious illness so what difference does it make to them lf they come into contact with someone who is vaccinated or not vaccinated?Originally posted by Welshcake. View PostComment
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I don't think its a good idea but what part of the Human Rights Act do you think it breaches?Originally posted by Armitage Shanks View PostComment
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This is the thing. We are trying to convince people who for one reason or other don't want the vaccine, by saying that Covid is spreading and even if you go to a place full of vaccinated people you are still in danger.Originally posted by Bald Barry Bastad View Post
I 100% support the vaccine, I'm just not convinced this will get that many more to take it and I rather suspect it may fuel more suspicion about it allComment
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Called this as soon as Boris u turned and Sturgeon pressed ahead.
It's a horrible idea and something that Boris actually got right.Comment
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I think it's generally accepted that any fiscal/economic argument is of little interest to Drakeford et al - just hold out the begging bowl to the Government and plead poverty.Originally posted by JamesWales View PostComment
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I don't disagree. The long term harm being caused is massive. At least in England people are getting back to offices in a safe manner which is generally (not always) better for productivity and wellbeing.Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
Just don't get why he effectively discourages working together over anything else. There is a route to going to a nightclub (a covid pass) but he doesn't at least say the same thing to allow work colleagues to meet together.
It's doubly weird, because he's only going to damage ideas such as comradeship, trade unionism etc when people are normalised being sat on their own, working on their own and thinking about their own needs.
Anyway, so be it.Comment
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