Africa Cup of Nations

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30-12-21, 12:05
Citizen's Nephew

Africa Cup of Nations

Tournament is being 'disrespected', says former England striker Ian Wright
30-12-21, 12:14
Hilts

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What if any TV channel is showing it?
30-12-21, 12:24
19bluebirds27

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I can see why managers/coaches are frustrated by it as it’s every 2 years and played in the middle of a season.
30-12-21, 12:59
poc

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Originally Posted by 19bluebirds27

I can see why managers/coaches are frustrated by it as it’s every 2 years and played in the middle of a season.

coalmen still deliver in the snow
30-12-21, 13:03
lardy

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coalmen still deliver in the snow

Don't know if we still do this joke, but whatever...

Racist. Reported.
30-12-21, 13:05
splott parker

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Originally Posted by 19bluebirds27

I can see why managers/coaches are frustrated by it as it’s every 2 years and played in the middle of a season.

Perhaps they suspend the season, if applicable, for the duration and clubs go along with it.
30-12-21, 13:17
JamesWales

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Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew

Tournament is being 'disrespected', says former England striker Ian Wright

I must say, he has a point. It is very much treated as a lesser tournament. I don't think it's race related at all, it's driven by money and attendances, and the fact it's in winter, but it's definitely less respected
30-12-21, 15:34
poc

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Originally Posted by Hilts

What if any TV channel is showing it?

skysports still tbc by the look
30-12-21, 17:08
Kind of Blue

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Used to enjoy watching it when it was on the BBC for a period (if I’m remembering rightly), shame it doesn’t still do. Remember enjoying un-fancied Zambia winning it in 2012.
30-12-21, 17:17
Citizen's Nephew

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

I must say, he has a point. It is very much treated as a lesser tournament. I don't think it's race related at all, it's driven by money and attendances, and the fact it's in winter, but it's definitely less respected

I think it's the same for Copa America. European football gets more hype and coverage. I'd like to think it isn't racism but I really don't know.

Don't forget that Wenger has recently proposed a WC every two years. Clubs aren't going to be happy with that surely? Euros every two years too. But that's off-topic.
30-12-21, 17:18
Citizen's Nephew

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Originally Posted by Kind of Blue

Used to enjoy watching it when it was on the BBC for a period (if I’m remembering rightly), shame it doesn’t still do. Remember enjoying un-fancied Zambia winning it in 2012.

I really like it as it's great to see matches between African countries that miss out on the WC.
30-12-21, 17:34
splott parker

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Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew

I think it's the same for Copa America. European football gets more hype and coverage. I'd like to think it isn't racism but I really don't know.

Don't forget that Wenger has recently proposed a WC every two years. Clubs aren't going to be happy with that surely? Euros every two years too. But that's off-topic.

Smacks of FIFA flexing their muscles aided by the other international associations. Making a statement that they run the sport not the clubs.
30-12-21, 18:15
Citizen's Nephew

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Originally Posted by splott parker

Smacks of FIFA flexing their muscles aided by the other international associations. Making a statement that they run the sport not the clubs.

I'm so disappointed with Arsene Wenger taking the job with FIFA and even more so with him proposing the WC format. I agree with you about their muscle-flexing. Follow the money.
30-12-21, 18:34
Stanmore Bluebird

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My personal view is that Club football should take priority over International games. When players like Bruno Manga left to take part in the African tournament, the City invariably suffered by their absence. The City over Wales for me any day, although I still want Wales to win every match - just that bit less than I desire to see the City win their fixtures.

I reckon that I am justified in thinking like this as we are on a Cardiff City message board.
31-12-21, 12:43
tforturton

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Fact is, this tournament is held mid-season, and any manager losing one or more of their top players is going to be pretty annoyed. Yes, I get that they know of the tournament, and they know it's played mid-season, but they must still be pretty cross that it's not played at some other time.
31-12-21, 13:05
The Bloop

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I guess that when the tournament first began in the 50's, there were hardly any participating players playing in European leagues, so teams weren't affected. Similarly, I think only 1 African team qualified for World Cup finals, so this tournament didn't affect much else.
Now that this has changed, it would make more sense to move the tournament and to only hold it every 4 years, instead of the current 2.
31-12-21, 17:46
Sloop_Jon_Bee

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Originally Posted by splott parker

Smacks of FIFA flexing their muscles aided by the other international associations. Making a statement that they run the sport not the clubs.

Nail on the head Splott.
Spedger
31-12-21, 18:24
Moodybluebird

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Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew

Tournament is being 'disrespected', says former England striker Ian Wright

Ian Wright often looks for evidence of potential racism, but in this case he's way off the mark. We are Europeans so it is natural that we would follow the Euros. Yes, there are many Africans (and South Americans) plying their trade in the PL but there is little or no interest in following either the African Cup of Nations or the Copa America. This is a geographical not a racism issue. Why do they always believe that a lack of respect is being shown to African players when it is really a case of indifference to their tournament.
31-12-21, 18:41
life on mars

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Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew

Tournament is being 'disrespected', says former England striker Ian Wright

Discrimination at its worse .
31-12-21, 20:14
The Bloop

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Stephen Caulker is going (he only played for England in a friendly)

https://www.bbc.com/sport/africa/59828279
01-01-22, 01:20
splott parker

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Originally Posted by tforturton

Fact is, this tournament is held mid-season, and any manager losing one or more of their top players is going to be pretty annoyed. Yes, I get that they know of the tournament, and they know it's played mid-season, but they must still be pretty cross that it's not played at some other time.

Yes, it’s mid season in Europe but this is an African tournament, why should they be concerned that it’s mid season in another continent? It may interfere with some African league seasons but they may adjust to fit things in.

Football isn’t all about European timetables. I wouldn’t think EUFA consider other continent’s seasons when European tournaments are scheduled. It’s akin to saying it’s no wonder our test cricket side are getting battered because they’re playing in winter.