Are you bothered?

About last night?
About Saturday?
About relegation?
About next season?

The worst part for me about it all is the total apathy. Not just when we lose but when we win these days as well. Losing feels inevitable, it has done in the past as well but would enjoy a rare moment of joy when we won games but this feels different. It feels like we’re just delaying the inevitable when we win a game.

If we needed a point at Norwich on the last day to stay up can you say you’d be delirious if we got it? I can’t. It would feel like we just have to wait another 12 months to seal our fate.

Hard not to think my views are shared looking at the size of the crowd once again last night, and the actions of this who were there. Even the booing was half arsed.

Apathy kills football clubs, hard to see where we go from here as it is so deep rooted in the club now there doesn’t seem to be a quick fix

I was saying the same thing last night, we have turned for less than this in the past. It’s like we’ve had the passion drained from us. I was at Oxford on Boxing Day and said then “we deserve to go down after the non performance” I stand by it

Felt like up until last night there was an almost toxic positivity amongst some fans in trying to be supportive, saying so many players were tope end Championship etc. Think that may stop now.

From Andy Campbell's glorious winner to this.
It seems we're headed back where we started and the club (not the fans) deserve it

I really don’t want to watch Cardiff in league 1 again so certainly would celebrate staying up this season but my real passion for City died when we switched to red

The Warnock promotion season was good - and in blue, I liked the character he put into that team but it still didn’t have the same “feel” as the journey we went on going up the leagues pre Tan but maybe that’s just me getting older

Maybe it could be reset with an ownership that “cared” about the club and a young ambitious manager with a plan ( like Bellamy has with Wales after Page) that gives something for the crowd to get behind but certainly in the stadium last night there was total apathy all around me

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Originally Posted by Don Corleone

I really don’t want to watch Cardiff in league 1 again so certainly would celebrate staying up this season but my real passion for City died when we switched to red

The Warnock promotion season was good - and in blue, I liked the character he put into that team but it still didn’t have the same “feel” as the journey we went on going up the leagues pre Tan but maybe that’s just me getting older

Maybe it could be reset with an ownership that “cared” about the club and a young ambitious manager with a plan ( like Bellamy has with Wales after Page) that gives something for the crowd to get behind but certainly in the stadium last night there was total apathy all around me

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And around me. Even the goal celebration felt a bit lame - I know mine was. And I can’t really explain why. Likewise I really don’t want to watch us again in league 1. Depressing.

I'll be honest, and I don't think many are willing to admit but I think there is a very high level of apathy at the moment and many are pretty relaxed about the relegation. It doesn't feel like a relegation battle does it? The Canton stand isn't trying to suck the ball in the net? There is no rallying cry to fans.

Everyone wants success but they also want to enjoy the football and that's not happening. I think a lot of people can see the benefits of dumping a few players, even visiting a few new grounds and just having a big old reset.

This feels like the dying days of an era that's being going on since 2001, with the club being on the up in terms of the football, the players the stadium, the cup finals, all of it. That's over now. We are a stumbling decaying club with a ground barely a third full sometimes.

No one wants to go down but equally I don't think anyone wants the last few years to continue.

It is often the fans who can lift a team in situations where they can see the players really need some help.

At City, the fans have been served up desperately poor performances/teams for far too long. They don't have it in them to lift the team any more. Many, many fans no longer care.

The 3 amigos are to blame for every poor club decision that has led to this.

Before the game I don't think I was so disinterested.... I never go to the shops before the game. But I was in next at 7.15 endeavouring to push my mind to go the game

as a lifelong city fan i do care and feel very sad at what the club has now become. what with the egg and our demise it's been a tough winter for Welsh sport with no grounds for optimism. we have a great fan base, very good ground (albeit soulless), great training facilities but then a total mess. look around the country and others are in a mess as well. if the owner and his cronies don't change we'll go into freefall and I feel really sorry for the fans living locally who go to the CCS. I've only seen us a few times in the flesh this year and it's not been nice.

Given that we are (currently) one step below the Premier League, it feels like we are more likely to end up in the National League or liquidation than we are to ever returning to the top flight.

Given how little we hear from Tan, surely he’ll be even more bored of us in League 1?

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Originally Posted by Lord Worcester

And around me. Even the goal celebration felt a bit lame - I know mine was. And I can’t really explain why. Likewise I really don’t want to watch us again in league 1. Depressing.

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I know what you mean about the goal celebration, it seemed a little half hearted. I think it was because we were playing poorly and it was inevitable we would then concede.

Compare the atmosphere to Portsmouth on Sunday where the whole crowd were behind the team. They had Regan Poole and Marlon Pack at centre half but kept a clean sheet against Leeds, goes to show what a bit of passion and character can achieve, traits I haven’t seen in this city team all season

We are £100 Million in debt and with financial fair play if we go down we are shagged.

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Originally Posted by Armitage Shanks

Before the game I don't think I was so disinterested.... I never go to the shops before the game. But I was in next at 7.15 endeavouring to push my mind to go the game

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What did you buy mate?

I can totally understand the positivity around the potential of going down to reset, with new owners, new direction, some ambition.

I don’t think it will be the reality though. I think Tan will stay, with just more slow and bad decisions, even less money, less players, worse attendances, maybe not worse managers because we already employ managers who won’t get employed anywhere else in the top 3 leagues.

More of the same, just worse. Are we going to spend five years there being apathetic about going down to league two because there’ll be a chance to reset?

Also for anyone who doesn’t remember, it’s a hard league to get out of

The only positive I can think of, is getting home quicker on a Saturday

“The only positive I can think of, is getting home quicker on a Saturday”

Do you mean from home games or away fixtures ?

Because from where I’m sat, (not in the stadium), away games are further in league 1 than the championship (not counting Boro, & Sunderland)

Peterborough, Lincoln, Stockport, Blackpool, there are some stinkers in there

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Originally Posted by superfeathers

I can totally understand the positivity around the potential of going down to reset, with new owners, new direction, some ambition.

I don’t think it will be the reality though. I think Tan will stay, with just more slow and bad decisions, even less money, less players, worse attendances, maybe not worse managers because we already employ managers who won’t get employed anywhere else in the top 3 leagues.

More of the same, just worse. Are we going to spend five years there being apathetic about going down to league two because there’ll be a chance to reset?

Also for anyone who doesn’t remember, it’s a hard league to get out of

The only positive I can think of, is getting home quicker on a Saturday

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All good points but Exeter and Bristol Rovers away would be good fun on the train mind 🤷

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

“The only positive I can think of, is getting home quicker on a Saturday”

Do you mean from home games or away fixtures ?

Because from where I’m sat, (not in the stadium), away games are further in league 1 than the championship (not counting Boro, & Sunderland)

Peterborough, Lincoln, Stockport, Blackpool, there are some stinkers in there

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Home games, I don’t get away much anymore. Although I remember doing an evening game at Peterborough years ago. What a shithole that was

There’s a few away games that might be decent, Blackpool id enjoy, and like james said Exeter and Bristol rovers but overall it looks very grim let’s be honest

As the tables stand we'd be looking at:
Huddersfield
Reading
Leyton Orient
Barnsley
Blackpool
Stevenage
Lincoln
Rotherham
Wigan
Exeter
Bristol Rovers
Mansfield
Northampton
Peterborough
Walsall
Bradford
Doncaster
3 from Wrexham, Charlton, Stockport, Bolton
1 from Notts County, Wimbledon, Port Vale, Crewe
Plus whichever 2 came down with us.

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Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland

As the tables stand we'd be looking at:
Huddersfield
Reading
Leyton Orient
Barnsley
Blackpool
Stevenage
Lincoln
Rotherham
Wigan
Exeter
Bristol Rovers
Mansfield
Northampton
Peterborough
Walsall
Bradford
Doncaster
3 from Wrexham, Charlton, Stockport, Bolton
1 from Notts County, Wimbledon, Port Vale, Crewe
Plus whichever 2 came down with us.

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Actually I’d be tempted by Reading and Walsall, easy trips, but fair play there’s some shit games
among all those

I’d call it numb rather than apathy. The performances are sleep inducing and when it’s cold too and ground half empty it’s hard to raise enthusiasm. Perhaps a second goal at 1-0 would have livened the place up. Maybe an atom worth of attacking endeavour would have created an atmosphere before 9pm.

It's not apathy to realise that the team is very poor at this level and and, as a result, relegation would not come as a surprise.

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

We are £100 Million in debt and with financial fair play if we go down we are shagged.

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Financial fair play completely different in league 1

Rather than profit and loss, you can only spend a percentage of your income on wages

Hence why Birmingham have blasted money about

Probably be easier to control

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Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland

As the tables stand we'd be looking at:
Huddersfield
Reading
Leyton Orient
Barnsley
Blackpool
Stevenage
Lincoln
Rotherham
Wigan
Exeter
Bristol Rovers
Mansfield
Northampton
Peterborough
Walsall
Bradford
Doncaster
3 from Wrexham, Charlton, Stockport, Bolton
1 from Notts County, Wimbledon, Port Vale, Crewe
Plus whichever 2 came down with us.

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Could add Stevenage, Orient & Exeter to my 83, look on the bright side :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland

As the tables stand we'd be looking at:
Huddersfield
Reading
Leyton Orient
Barnsley
Blackpool
Stevenage
Lincoln
Rotherham
Wigan
Exeter
Bristol Rovers
Mansfield
Northampton
Peterborough
Walsall
Bradford
Doncaster
3 from Wrexham, Charlton, Stockport, Bolton
1 from Notts County, Wimbledon, Port Vale, Crewe
Plus whichever 2 came down with us.

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We could be looking at a division where we've played 15 of the other sides in the Championship since 2003.