Possible offside rule change
"Former Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has proposed a change to the offside rule that would mean attackers are onside if any part of their body is in line with the last outfield defender.
Wenger, head of global development at world governing body Fifa, said it would restore an advantage to the attacker that many feel was eroded by the introduction of the video assistant referee (VAR)."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/cvgngqen0jgo
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Would make it more difficult to defend against or play offside but I like the simplicity of it.
We don't want to see people offside over a toe but it's hard to tell var to just ignore x amount of foot. Maybe if they have to get the lines out it just gets left but I guess the proposal above makes it more black and white.
I suppose though it would just be defenders getting upset when the attacker has a toe onside.
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There will be tight calls and we'll all still argue about them, but I'd prefer the rule to be that way round (favouring the attacker).
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Makes sense when you have VAR but would be even more derisive left to a lino's judgement.
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Undercoverinwurzelland
There will be tight calls and we'll all still argue about them, but I'd prefer the rule to be that way round (favouring the attacker).
Agreed.
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I'm also happy with erring on the side of more attacking play but if anything it will be harder to call, even with VAR. Harder to tell if there is a gap between players than a bit of a player offside IMO. We'll all become experts at analyzing freeze frames and looking for the slightest evidence of light coming through.
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Just stop the off side rule altogether.
No arguments then.
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insider
Just stop the off side rule altogether.
No arguments then.
Goal hanging, I used to score shedloads that way in Junior School :thumbup:
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North Cardiff Blue
Goal hanging, I used to score shedloads that way in Junior School :thumbup:
You would have been off side.
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insider
Just stop the off side rule altogether.
No arguments then.
They experimented with that in The Watneys Cup in the 60s, not sure how the experiment ended, other than it wasn't adopted. No social media/sports TV etc in those days.
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insider
Just stop the off side rule altogether.
No arguments then.
Genuinely don't know why they don't do this.
I know the argument used to be someone could just stand by the goal and kick it in. But that's such a simplistic viewpoint! The game has changed so much now. It may help the game spread out as currently it's all so bunched. I'd prefer it with no offsides and would make it more tactical how to adapt.
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Undercoverinwurzelland
There will be tight calls and we'll all still argue about them, but I'd prefer the rule to be that way round (favouring the attacker).
I can't disagree more. It feels wrong, for a start but it'll mean you can't play a defensive line as the defender can effectively be a yard off the entire time. Teams will just sit back as it will be ridiculously easy to get in behind. Also, I don't want to see 9-8 games, goals should be special.
It also doesn't fix the marginal offsides at all, it just moves the tight call somewhere else. Dreadful idea and another rule that is having to be reviewed to "fix" VAR. Fed up of these decision makers trying to justify their inordinate salaries.
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Pedro de la Rosa
I can't disagree more. It feels wrong, for a start but it'll mean you can't play a defensive line as the defender can effectively be a yard off the entire time. Teams will just sit back as it will be ridiculously easy to get in behind. Also, I don't want to see 9-8 games, goals should be special.
It also doesn't fix the marginal offsides at all, it just moves the tight call somewhere else. Dreadful idea and another rule that is having to be reviewed to "fix" VAR. Fed up of these decision makers trying to justify their inordinate salaries.
But it’s not a new rule is it, it’s just reverting back to the old rule. After I finished playing I was a ref/lino for 3 seasons (late 90s), there weren’t 8-9 goals per game.
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Pedro de la Rosa
I can't disagree more. It feels wrong, for a start but it'll mean you can't play a defensive line as the defender can effectively be a yard off the entire time. Teams will just sit back as it will be ridiculously easy to get in behind. Also, I don't want to see 9-8 games, goals should be special.
It also doesn't fix the marginal offsides at all, it just moves the tight call somewhere else. Dreadful idea and another rule that is having to be reviewed to "fix" VAR. Fed up of these decision makers trying to justify their inordinate salaries.
For me this comes down to what the offside rule was brought in for - to stop the attacking player gaining an advantage over the defender. Goals are ruled out under the current rule when there's been no advantage at all.
But yes, there will always be tight calls and we'll never all be happy with the rule, whatever it is.
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Des Parrot
But it’s not a new rule is it, it’s just reverting back to the old rule. After I finished playing I was a ref/lino for 3 seasons (late 90s), there weren’t 8-9 goals per game.
No, its not. The current rule is that level is onside, that's not what it was pre 1990. The current rules gave an advantage to the attacker, this gives such an obscene advantage it is a joke
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Undercoverinwurzelland
For me this comes down to what the offside rule was brought in for - to stop the attacking player gaining an advantage over the defender. Goals are ruled out under the current rule when there's been no advantage at all.
But yes, there will always be tight calls and we'll never all be happy with the rule, whatever it is.
Stop messing with football to fix VAR. Goals will still get ruled out for that reason, under the new law
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the only change i want is to make VAR an appeal system only.
Go with the referee decision unless the team use one of their 2 challenges - then if a challenge is used they can examine it to the nth degree
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Rjk
the only change i want is to make VAR an appeal system only.
Go with the referee decision unless the team use one of their 2 challenges - then if a challenge is used they can examine it to the nth degree
The only change I want to make with VAR is scrap the bloody thing
Even if you go with challenges, they'll just chuck one in willy nilly because why not? Good luck celebrating a last minute winner :hehe:
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Pedro de la Rosa
No, its not. The current rule is that level is onside, that's not what it was pre 1990. The current rules gave an advantage to the attacker, this gives such an obscene advantage it is a joke
I don’t understand. For decades the rule was clear daylight. That changed after I stopped playing / officiating, so after 1998. The rule was always clear daylight which is what Wenger is proposing.