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Received Royal Assent today so now a full Law.
Major changes to the rights of fans and clubs will now HAVE to consult with fans groups such as the Trust and prove that they have carried about proper consultation with them - not allowed to treat it as just a "tick box" exercise.
It sounds great as all socialist ideologies do, but in reality will it have a detrimental effect?
No detrimental impact at all. Owners and directors will still run clubs but there are enhanced checks to make sure they are fit and proper people to do so ,they must run them in a financially stable manner and (most importantly for fans) they must show that they have taken the views of fans into account in making key strategic decisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parti Mellow
As far as a socialist ideology is concerned, were you aware that this new piece of legislation was initially introduced and championed by the Conservative Party and then received all party support?
No disrespect, but what do politicians know about running or even supporting football clubs?
As I said above , politicians are not going to be running football clubs owners and directors will continue to do so. And having listened to all the debates they have had over the years, it is quite clear that a large number of them involved in those debates are loyal fans of clubs across England and Wales.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parti Mellow
Is there any chance that the regulator could review the EPPP, as he's supposed to be looking to ensure fair distribution of income across the leagues? Compulsory, minimum sell-on clauses would help in my opinion, as well as fairer compensation at the time of the transfer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninian1962
No specific powers given to Regulator in the Act about EPPP but it does have the power to intervene as a backstop measure if the Premier League and EFL fail to reach agreement in a timely manner going forward about the distribution of income.Quote:
Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland
no disrespect! but what do the wealthy know about running a........blah blah blahQuote:
Originally Posted by Parti Mellow
Thanks. Maybe the EFL will feel more confident in pushing the Premier League for a fairer deal over time? I'm not sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninian1962
The stricter tests for owners and protection for club heritage do sound positive.
I haven't read a great deal about it, but I'm a member of the Football Supporters Federation (join - it's free!) and they seem happy so that's good enough for me.
Will it make any real difference? I doubt it, I suspect it will be token communication, but its no bad thing to embed these things.
What I would really like to see is a few concrete changes, such as the £30 away ticket cap. It's things like that that people can see and understand that makes a difference. Few ideas off the top of my head:
Clubs to have to offer at least 1000 tickets a game at no more than £30 for home fans
Clubs to have to offer concessions in 75% of the ground
Clubs to have to have some cash tills in stadiums
Clubs to have to advertise local transport options in programmes and the ground
Clubs to commit to offer affordable food options in the stadium.
Mascots to be free.
There's loads of good that clubs do do, but I think a few things like this will give people far more faith that the clubs respect their fan bases more.
Wasn’t the bill originally introduced by a Conservative Government and haven’t the Tories backed it in opposition?Quote:
Originally Posted by Parti Mellow
All politicians should stay out of sport.
Most are in fact great. It's all about the implementation. This one sounds like it could be a step forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parti Mellow
Exactly! Whatever you do don't leave it to capitalists to f**k everything up.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToTaL ITK
Communism is all about implementation.
The Football Supporters Association have certainly been very instrumental in getting this legislation put into place. However a lot of the things you list are outside the parameters of what it is set up to do but many are already discussed by fans with their individual clubs. Ticket pricing and allocations is dealt with at meetings such as the regular SLO meetings.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
That's how it should be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parti Mellow
They are really. This legislation arose from a Fans Led Review created and driven by fans. The politicians have just made the necessary steps to make it binding in law. The Independent Regulator will be just that. Not made up of lots of politicians but an independent body of 40+ people with lots of football experienceQuote:
Originally Posted by Parti Mellow
Yeah they are a great organization and I totally recognize what SLOs do. Is It Paul Corkry at CCFC? Met him a couple of times and these guys genuinely care about fansQuote:
Originally Posted by Ninian1962
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Originally Posted by JamesWales