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£300k per week is obscene. The say 'earns' when I think it should be paid as certainly he is not 'earning it'!
Whatever that is one of the reasons why football is messed up.
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£300k per week is obscene. The say 'earns' when I think it should be paid as certainly he is not 'earning it'!
Whatever that is one of the reasons why football is messed up.
You ok hun?
man city generate 719 million pounds of revenue, it's right that the lion's share of that goes to the players, who generated it
55,000 people go week in week out to watch Man City. Millions watch them every time they play and buy shirts, merchandise and subscriptions. The biggest brands in the world pay tens of millions to have their logos on kits and in the stands.
It is obscene, but why hasn’t he “earned it”?
Robert Downey Jr was paid tens of millions to pretend to be a man in a metal suit in a superhero movie. Did he “earn” that money?
Football is one of the few jobs where talent is linked to success/money. There’s very little room for nepotism, family connections, etc especially at the higher levels because if you genuinely aren’t good enough you’ll be dropped.
This is all true, but it can still be considered an obscene sum of money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canton Kev
The thing for me is not what they earn - good for them, and better they pay taxes here than Spain or Germany. I just wish there were more protections in place for fans and better distribution throughout football.
I'd mind less if he earnt that if tickets in Evertons new ground were more affordable etc. it does feel like football is now a source of social division rather than bringing people together which at its best it can do.
Pay em what they like. But guarantee us £30 home tickets, affordable kids shirts, less fixture disruption etc. its possible to do both!
Good move for all parties.
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Originally Posted by JamesWales
Football is one of the few jobs where talent is linked to success/money. There’s very little room for nepotism, family connections, etc especially at the higher levels because if you genuinely aren’t good enough you’ll be dropped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canton Kev
He isn’t that good, and has been dropped ?
It's insane for a guy that takes the ball forward a few yards and then plays the ball back. Maybe this move will see him return to a more entertaining player to watch.
The salaries are of course obscene for the work done but can't blame the players. Surely the game will go pop one day, won't it? Maybe not.
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Of course it's obscene - Haaland earns something like £1m a week with just his salary and guaranteed bonuses. £45m in one season not counting endorsements etc. The last 4 or 5 seasons the already massive salaries of the PL players have almost doubled again. It affects every one of the 92 clubs indirectly, the same way house prices in central London affect those in Blackburn [another thread there perhaps]. Generations of Haalands will never have to work, and will no doubt enjoy celebrity life aka the young Beckhams. What fun !Quote:
Originally Posted by Taffy Blue in Berkshire
Surprised he's still only 29, seems to have been around for ages. For me, a definite case of Pep making a player worse - I think he's a great manager, but I never got what he wanted to turn Grealish into, as it seemed to me that he was discouraged from showing the talents that I would have thought were the reason for Man city's interest in him in the first place.
As for his wages, yes it is an obscene amount that is hard to justify. when measured against what the average wage is. However, at least top footballers have a talent which sets them above most others and so are deserving of an enhanced wage - put it this way, there are plenty of people we never get to know of in business who earn what Grealish does who i believe are far less deserving of their salary than he is.
At his best he was absolutely world class at one specific thing - winning free kicks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trigger
I remember reading some pundit or other before a tournament saying that England's best chance of winning would be to play Grealish and Vardy to win free kicks and Ward-Prowse to take them, but also that they would never try that.
Only if we are invited.Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
Football should be cheaper for fans to go to. If for nothing else, than to ensure the next generation is going to stadiums to create the atmosphere that the Premier League uses to market itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
But that's not the players' fault. Their families make massive sacrifices from a young age to get where they are now. Ticket prices aren't high because they're demanding massive wages. The clubs get most money from TV rights, and that gives them the hundreds of millions that enables them to offer this kind of wage to make sure the player signs for them and not a rival.
I've never wanted to criticise players for this. They just happen to play at a time when wages are this high. The money is there regardless, and if not going towards the players then it would just be to shareholders or to hold up other parts of the conglomerate that owns the club.
In a better world, Grealish and others wouldn't earn so much and that money would be used in the club's community. But that isn't gonna happen, and I expect there are people making an absolute fortune behind the scenes who are very happy to have the spotlight on the players and not them.
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Originally Posted by lardy
Yeah I agree. But I think that's why there needs to be better "protections" for fans, so that we can ensure the long term sustainability of the sport and that fans don't end up paying the extreme wages through ever rising ticket, shirt prices.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
I do agree that the premier League has to compete and I want them here paying taxes, but I think ensuring a few concessions for fans would reduce much of the anxiety about what they earn and its easily doable.
I remember that the PL used to have something to put money back into the community. I think it was a paltry amount and that was 15 years ago, don't know if they do now. Obviously clubs would never do it voluntarily if it meant slashing wages. So we're pretty much stuck with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Taxes is another reason why it's better for players to get the money than shareholders or shell companies or whatever. Tevez's payslip was leaked once, and he was on PAYE!
He still “earned” his contract though. He wasn’t signed by Man City as a favour to some family connection or because he knew someone at the club or for a marketing/publicity stunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
Football is one of the very small avenues in life that can turn a working class kid into a millionaire all off the back of skill and hard work. And of course a bit of luck.
I kind of see it both ways.
Depends what you class a football club as, is it a community asset.
If so I donÂ’t care what players get paid so long as the output remains the same meaning ticket prices and facilities.
I do think there should be an independent body that should allow to set ticket prices and food and drink provisions.
Which ever way you want to wrap it up, he isn’t worth £300k a week. No footballer is. It’s not his fault, but it is an obscene wage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canton Kev
Darwyn Nunez, is now on £400k a week. Tax free. Crazy!!
How much is he worth? 100k a week? 20k?Quote:
Originally Posted by William Treseder
The prize money for winning the Premier League is £170m+. Man City have won 3 PL titles in Grealish’s 4 seasons at the club.
I think clubs do do a lot in their communities, most of which goes under the radar. I do think some clear guidance on ticket pricing is needing though and as I say if you can keep those protections then I think anxiety on wages would be vastly reduced.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
At the end of the day clubs will pay what the market dictates and at £300,000 a week he will (or should) be paying some £7m a year in tax which I would rather he do here than in Spain or Italy.
Unquestionably though, it sours my wider appreciation of footballs role in society when Evertons home end tickets are £55 and he's getting £300k a week. If every club has to offer 5000 tickets at £25 and Grealish got £275,000 a week, I think the world would be a slightly better place for it.
Football is only a game. It’s not life or death.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canton Kev
It would take a fireman, or Paramedic etc, about 36 yrs, to earn what Grealish can earn in 6 weeks. That’s what makes it obscene.
Can you not see that?