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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...virus-lockdown
Seems to me that Neil Ferguson and Catherine Calderwood resigned for less than Cummings is said to have done - neither of them were in self isolation.
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the other bob wilson
I agree. I also think Vaughan Gething should go as well for having a picnic with his family on a bench at Cardiff Bay. Interesting that they have put a big barrier around that bench to stop anyone else using it.
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lisvaneblue
I agree. I also think Vaughan Gething should go as well for having a picnic with his family on a bench at Cardiff Bay. Interesting that they have put a big barrier around that bench to stop anyone else using it.
Never mind that Sun story, there's a decent argument to say Gething should go anyway.
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lisvaneblue
I agree. I also think Vaughan Gething should go as well for having a picnic with his family on a bench at Cardiff Bay. Interesting that they have put a big barrier around that bench to stop anyone else using it.
I believe Gething will argue that his stroll around a public area, accompanied by his family and buying a bag of chips could be deemed as essential? Similar to making a 80 mile trip to get some farmers market cheese can be deemed to be essential also.
I think it’s all down to a persons perception.:biggrin:
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Yep of you go ,, Mr Cummings all over myself .
Vaughan has got away with few he should fall and take his leader with him . ( spot the irony , leader?? )
I see Plaids MP Jonathan Edwards*has had his whip removed from his ?
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lisvaneblue
I agree. I also think Vaughan Gething should go as well for having a picnic with his family on a bench at Cardiff Bay. Interesting that they have put a big barrier around that bench to stop anyone else using it.
Gething having a walk with his family and stopping to eat a bag of chips is hardly comparable.
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life on mars
Yep of you go ,, Mr Cummings all over myself .
Vaughan has got away with few he should fall and take his leader with him . ( spot the irony , leader?? )
I see Plaids MP Jonathan Edwards*has had his whip removed from his ?
Is this a parody account :hehe:
Read his wife’s article here about how ill they were. A piece of pure fiction.
https://spectator.us/getting-coronavirus-bring-clarity/
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lisvaneblue
I also think Vaughan Gething should go as well for having a picnic with his family on a bench at Cardiff Bay.
This is hardly a revelation, but you Tories really are nauseating.
Attempting to somehow draw comparisons between a man and his family eating a bag of chips in a public place to another who apparently drove 260 miles during the height of the lockdown while displaying Covid-19 symptoms in order to dump his kids on his parents is not only pathetic - it's utterly ridiculous.
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Just read the article. I was aware he had allegedly broken lockdown rules but also had coronavirus symptoms.!!!!! FFS if this is correct how is he still in a job ??
He will have to go and anyone in Government who has allowed him to remain in his job has serious questions to answer because it looks like they were trying to keep it quiet.
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The Lone Gunman
This is hardly a revelation, but you Tories really are nauseating.
Attempting to somehow draw comparisons between a man and his family eating a bag of chips in a public place to another who apparently drove 260 miles during the height of the lockdown while displaying Covid-19 symptoms in order to dump his kids on his parents is not only pathetic - it's utterly ridiculous.
Correct.
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We are all in this together.
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Correct.
Thirded
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To be fair to neil Ferguson he was boffing a right sort
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Theyve now issued a statement saying he was within guidelines. What feckin guidelines are travelling 200 miles with coronavirus symptoms. Even if he didnt have symptoms what guidelines allow this.?
They are taking the p!ss. So desperate to look after themselves.
It would be bad enough if their entire handling of this crisis wasnt a complete disaster.
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Dirty old game politics.What a bunch kids .
Dirty old game politics. Really pisses me off how they all try to picks holes in each other ,looking for a chink in the armour at every opportunity.they deserve each other.
This Cummings must really have the others worried they are desperate to get rid of him.Not a concern for the interest of the nation.
It all stinks all of it.
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Theyve now issued a statement saying he was within guidelines. What feckin guidelines are travelling 200 miles with coronavirus symptoms. Even if he didnt have symptoms what guidelines allow this.?
They are taking the p!ss. So desperate to look after themselves.
It would be bad enough if their entire handling of this crisis wasnt a complete disaster.
And within that statement they've lied. They say that the police were not involved yet Durham Constabulary have released a statement saying they did.
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Jordi Culé
I believe Gething will argue that his stroll around a public area, accompanied by his family and buying a bag of chips could be deemed as essential? Similar to making a 80 mile trip to get some farmers market cheese can be deemed to be essential also.
I think it’s all down to a persons perception.:biggrin:
Its interesting that we all get caught up about people breaking the rules, and to what degree. And social distancing and sun seekers at Southend not keeping apart etc
But, the big decisions that impact on morbidity and mortality are made by government(s)...and they are sadly lacking.
Lack of PPE, lack of CC beds, lack of tracking and tracing, lack of tracking facilities, open airports, dumping Covid patients in care homes...I could go on.
We lack leaders, and many so called are showing us the they are not up to the job
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lisvaneblue
Its interesting that we all get caught up about people breaking the rules, and to what degree. And social distancing and sun seekers at Southend not keeping apart etc
But, the big decisions that impact on morbidity and mortality are made by government(s)...and they are sadly lacking.
Lack of PPE, lack of CC beds, lack of tracking and tracing, lack of tracking facilities, open airports, dumping Covid patients in care homes...I could go on.
We lack leaders, and many so called are showing us the they are not up to the job
I, 100% agree with all that, whether they be Welsh or English leaders.:thumbup:
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Jordi Culé
I, 100% agree with all that, whether they be Welsh 5or English leaders.:thumbup:
To be fair it's generally accepted that welsh labour have made some feck ups but they pale into insignificance compared to the tories at Westminster
Johnson , gove , hancock and pritti patel ?
They are incompetent idiots
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We have heard and seen quite a few instances on social media about people flouting the lockdown guidelines but has anyone been prosecuted?
In this particular instance, some form of community service is called for.
How about two weeks in a care home or maybe a month as a porter in hospital.
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life on mars
Yep of you go ,, Mr Cummings all over myself .
Vaughan has got away with few he should fall and take his leader with him . ( spot the irony , leader?? )
I see Plaids MP Jonathan Edwards*has had his whip removed from his ?
Not like you to have a go at the labour party
Anyone reading your posts would , let's be honest , have you down as someone who have dived in a pool of blue paint , put on a blue suit and stuck a vote tory rosette on it
Who are you trying to kid here ?
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MacAdder
We have heard and seen quite a few instances on social media about people flouting the lockdown guidelines but has anyone been prosecuted?
In this particular instance, some form of community service is called for.
How about two weeks in a care home or maybe a month as a porter in hospital.
Nothings going to happen to Cummings, nothing
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Not like you to have a go at the labour party
Anyone reading your posts would , let's be honest , have you down as someone who have dived in a pool of blue paint , put on a blue suit and stuck a vote tory rosette on it
Who are you trying to kid here ?
Come on Sludge No. 10 have spent all night investigating this and can confirm that Cummings 200 mile trip with coronavirus symptoms was essential and within guidelines so its all ok.
Now lets sort that b****d who went for a walk and ate some feckin chips.
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Is Stephen Kinnock still in a job?
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The Lone Gunman
This is hardly a revelation, but you Tories really are nauseating.
Attempting to somehow draw comparisons between a man and his family eating a bag of chips in a public place to another who apparently drove 260 miles during the height of the lockdown while displaying Covid-19 symptoms in order to dump his kids on his parents is not only pathetic - it's utterly ridiculous.
thin he also insulted one of his colleagues ,pillar of society and all that ,i voted Liberal by the way in the last two elections ,equally nauseating its your clever assumption on how someone voted because for an opinion not even knowing them .
Please note oh clever one my first line of my post ( Yep of you go ,, Mr Cummings all over myself .)
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Is Stephen Kinnock still in a job?
Yep , and wasn't he so brazen about it , lets wait until the clever common sense ones comment or is it a one fit problem
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Poor woman, the trauma and, possibly, the delirium brought on from having the virus must mean that she can't remember the drive up to and stay in Durham as well as the drive home - seems she thought she was still in London all the time.
Seriously, if she didn't think her and her husband were doing anything wrong, why not mention it? Presumably, the article was written after Durham Police had contacted them?
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SLUDGE FACTORY
To be fair it's generally accepted that welsh labour have made some feck ups but they pale into insignificance compared to the tories at Westminster
Johnson , gove , hancock and pritti patel ?
They are incompetent idiots
The Welsh government crisis management has been better but let’s be straight anyone would’ve done better than Boris & Co. I’d have preferred both governments to perhaps have started combating the known pandemic which was on its way in January. We probably wouldn’t be embroiled in the shit show we have now?
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Nothings going to happen to Cummings, nothing
unfortunately you maybe be right , think Boris would win some credence if he did boot him though ,.
I do think Boris is not what he was after Covid , he may not last in this role .
There are rumblings abound already in the party , 1922 Committee of Tory backbenchers ,are after him to appear in front of them ,they ain't happy as Sir keir is doing one on him at the moment
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life on mars
thin he also insulted one of his colleagues ,pillar of society and all that ,i voted Liberal by the way in the last two elections ,equally nauseating its your clever assumption on how someone voted because for an opinion not even knowing them .
Please note oh clever one my first line of my post ( Yep of you go ,, Mr Cummings all over myself .)
You are a tory
Its cringeworthy reading your continual lambasting of welsh labour
You need to knock it on the head , its embarrassing
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Hungry Blue
Is Stephen Kinnock still in a job?
Has he got a job ?
I am a labour voter and I think hes dreadful
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the other bob wilson
Poor woman, the trauma and, possibly, the delirium brought on from having the virus must mean that she can't remember the drive up to and stay in Durham as well as the drive home - seems she thought she was still in London all the time.
Seriously, if she didn't think her and her husband were doing anything wrong, why not mention it? Presumably, the article was written after Durham Police had contacted them?
Of course it was.
The little prayer for Boris... well, it might just keep dear old Dom his job.
Nauseating.
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Yep of you go ,, Mr Cummings all over myself .
As this is apparently important - what does it mean?
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lisvaneblue
Its interesting that we all get caught up about people breaking the rules, and to what degree. And social distancing and sun seekers at Southend not keeping apart etc
But, the big decisions that impact on morbidity and mortality are made by government(s)...and they are sadly lacking.
Lack of PPE, lack of CC beds, lack of tracking and tracing, lack of tracking facilities, open airports, dumping Covid patients in care homes...I could go on.
We lack leaders, and many so called are showing us the they are not up to the job
:thumbup:
I stick by what I said on here a few weeks ago - by and large, the "strong man" leaders (laughably, I've seen Boris Johnson being put in that group by some) of the world are having rings run around them by decisive woman leaders who give people the facts and don't talk to them as if they are idiots.
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life on mars
equally nauseating its your clever assumption on how someone voted because for an opinion not even knowing them. Please note oh clever one my first line of my post
I wasn't talking to you, hence the fact that I didn't quote you. I don't know if you're a Tory or not. All I know for sure is you're a gibbering idiot.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
To be fair it's generally accepted that welsh labour have made some feck ups but they pale into insignificance compared to the tories at Westminster
Johnson , gove , hancock and pritti patel ?
They are incompetent idiots
I agree with most of what you say, but not sure the Senedd is any better. OK Gethin Vaughan only went for a walk and some chips. If I'd done that it might be excusable, but he's the Minister of Health for God's sake. Ignoring his own rules and thinking we are too thick to notice. Then the First Minister backs him up by saying they changed the rules before he was caught by they hadn't had time to tell anybody. Now the public bench that he used has been fenced off so no one else can use it.
As for Cummings the thing that disgust me most is that he travelled up North by car, 250 miles. OK he is isolated in his car, but that journey must have required a pee break in a service station...and the bloke has symptoms!
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Kuenessberg straight to his defence via her "sources"
Cummins feeding her exactly what to say as usual
https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status...14724305055745
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Just been on Twitter, there's so much stuff about Stephen Kinnock there - if I was more of a cynic, I would say some people are trying to divert attention away from someone.
For the record, what Kinnock did was against the rules and, as others have resigned for similar wrongdoings, I think he should be penalised by his party or he should stand down as an MP, but, in my opinion. what Cummings did is in a different league from him.
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She is a raving tory , I think she head of the tory students society at university or something