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chlorinated chicken back on the menu
Taking back control
Raising standards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-pol...inated-chicken
tbf..Judging by his photo you can see the damage it might do
I guess people could choose not to eat that chicken
we will see UK bred chickens labelled as such and people will have a choice to buy US or UK chicken, alot like we do with free range eggs
In processed food and takeaways. Really??Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
my local Chinese advertises that it uses free range eggs and no GMO ingredientsQuote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
my local Thai food place advertises it uses no GMO ingredients
one of the kebab / pizza places in town has on the window that all meat is not Halal
Mr Kiplings cakes and cake bars say they only use free range eggs
so hardly unheard of that they label food, we can make a choice
if you dont want to run the risk of eating that chicken, dont eat chicken
Do you know why they chlorinate the chicken? It is because they are bred in such awful conditions where hygiene is low, and animal welfare is crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
Do you know if this will appear on labels?
Do you know if British farmers will have to take less care of their chickens in order to compete with the cheap American imports.
Think about it (I presume you can actually think - although your lack of response to my question about cookies suggests otherwise, clock is ticking on that one). How could it ever be economically feasible that importing chicken from 2,000 miles away is viable?
Which of these tells you where their chicken comes from?Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
We have an ArchDuke of Brexit as a British Minister of State explicitly stating that the UK will not lower its standards and will only raise them in relation to a US Trade deal and now we have the Prime Minister's Office saying totally the opposite. Still we hold all the cards eh!
This following news may shock you but - takeaways are not regulated to a degree that ensures that they actually comply with their boasts.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
A local Chinese takeaway that I once used made similar boasts about free range eggs but were found to be lying.
This trade deal is important for America, they need our rubber bullets so they can shoot news journalists. They need our tear gas, BRITISH Tear gas, it's the best in the world for dispersing peacful protests.
none, but it shows that it is possible for the UK to label food so the end consumer can made decisionsQuote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
How do you know that the Americans won't insist on not labelling it that way? We won't have to adhere to the EU Labelling laws and regulations post Brexit. There will be new labelling guidelines.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
my youngest daughter went to primary school with one of the sons of my local Chinese, they do use free range eggsQuote:
Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO
This might shock you, you have options, if you dont want to run the risk, do not eat takeaways, job done
Was it brought up before or after the colouring in lesson? Plus, I remember your gun story - which was also a load of bollocks, so excuse me if I don't take everything you say as factual.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
we dont know what the Americans will insist on, so your point is rather mootQuote:
Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO
I couldnt care if you take anything i say as factual, i really couldntQuote:
Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO
It's almost like the people who brought us Brexit rebelling against the institutions who put labels on everything and told us how bendy our bananas should be are going to start putting labels on everything and saying how chlorinated our chicken is.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
It isn't, really, considering how the Americans have insisted on the absence of detail in labelling in other trade deals.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
However, whilst you are concentrating on chlorinated chicken, may I also bring to your limited attention span other foodstuffs that could potentially flood the UK market - forcing our own farmers either out of business, or to lower their own standards to compete.
Meat from animals fed steroids, hormones and antibiotics (the rise of antibiotic use in farming is a cause of some bacteria starting to show resistance to all but the strongest of anti-biotics. We don't really need to see what would happen in the case of bacterium evolving to be anti-biotic resistant do we?)
Milk that has double the somatic cells that we are allow in this country. Do you like pus in your tea?
Baby food that has no specific regulations.
And, the US has been trying to lead us away from practices that protect items such as Stilton Cheese and Cornish Pasties.
All this is great news for our farmers, I am sure you'll agree. Oh yes, options, we all have them don't we? Unless we are so skint, we buy the cheapest food available.
That much is obvious with the pack of lies you spew up on here. And, you obviously don't care about GDPR and PECR regulations either.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
:hehe: In fact, I think one of the only rules (there were 18 from memory) forced on the UK by the EU was to include the ingredient aspartame in labelling of sugar-free soft drinks. If the UK had their way, we would be drinking diet-coke without knowing whether or not aspartame was an active ingredient.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Now all you need to know is what your government's definition of "Non GMO" is.
I'm pretty confident that Blue Matt didn't read the article, but the UK answer to importing cheaply produced food is to slap a larger tarriff on it. It's not spoken about labelling at all.
In fact, the wonderful Brexit Party, sorry, Conservatives, are going further and suggesting that this large tarriff can be reduced to 0% over a 10 year period to "allow British farmers to adapt to a new normal". Now, I am not a betting man, but I would bet 50p that this "new normal" doesn't involve forcing chickens to Socially distance or, in fact, to distance at all.
you have been told by someone else you have options on that, just dont log on, but that would mean you missing out on all this attention :wave::wave: bless your little cotton socksQuote:
Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO
I don't have as many problems with GMO food as others - but that doesn't mean I don't think it should be fully dispelled to consumers exactly what they are eating so that they actually have an option (providing they are not skint and are forced to buy and eat crap).Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
Is this your official response to my concerns?Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
And, with that, he disappears.
This shows how biased people are, Matt is a vegetarian because he worries about animal welfare.
But because he voted brexit he’s now arguing that this isn’t bad.
Why can’t people realise things aren’t black and white and you can still criticise things even if you voted for them.
Incredible!Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
Doesn't the FSA have some UK input into how food is labelled?Quote:
Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO
Indeed. The likelihood, as it is now, is that people will choose the cheapest option. The whole 'buy British' mantra is a dead duck from the start, most people don't care where their food comes from as long as it's cheap.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
Cheaper meat imports are bad news for British farmers.
The*chicken is*not “washed in*chlorine” it*is*chilled in water containing sodium hypochlorite or calcium hypochlorite at 20–50 ppm (That*is*parts per million). Tap water that*is chlorinated*for safety can be as high a 4 ppm. ...*
https://www.soilassociation.org/our-...nated-chicken/Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Yes and your daughters can choose whether they use cosmetics with all sorts of potentially harmful ingredients in, as long as they read the label that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
If Brexit causes us to go from a country with high public health and environmental standards and specifications to one with regulations as relaxed as America then that will be shameful.
I have never said this isnt bad, i have said people will have a choice, UK chickens will be labelled as such and people will choose what they want to eat, just like they do eggsQuote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
Personally i dont want to see any animals killed for food, but thats another argument
I disagree with that. I am not rich by any stretch of the imagination but meat is one of the things I do not by based on its cheapness. I never by pre-packed meat unless nothing else is available. I always buy it fresh, including my chicken. I only use large free range eggs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
As for take-aways I live in Llandaff and the local curry house does take-aways. I love chicken rogan josh but I won't buy it there because the use cubes of reconstituted chicken. I buy my rogan at the Fairwater Tandoori because they use proper pieces of chicken that is recognisable as chicken, sometimes it even has bones in it.
There are a lot of people who still use traditional butchers (some even drive to Brecon to do it) and the extra cost is worth it because if you are paying that much for something anyway the extra couple of bob are worth it.
My local curry house/takeaway has a testimonial/recommendation printed on his car from Rod Stewart!Quote:
Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO
Come on, most people buy everything in supermarkets. I reckon if you had one fridge with British chicken at £4 for a large chicken, and in the next fridge, large chickens with no information on them at £3, most people would buy the £3 ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
My experience of supermarket meat buying during the lockdown is that essentials or the best things get bought first.
I have two decent meat stalls in my local market and I buy things from them occasionally. Paying the extra is worth it for me. A third similar stall closed down last year as there wasn't the business.
In your argument all you kept saying was what you do. I'm looking at what I see lots of other people doing.
NaiveQuote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
I can only say what I do, what else would you expect me to say? Like you I use butchers, (so you're agreeing with me there) and don't buy my meat in supermarkets or prewrapped, and that includes burgers. And while I'm using those butchers I see lots of other people using them too, that's why they still exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
You say you look at what you see lots of other people doing and then offer only an opinon on the £3 or £4 chicken.
But I think if I said the sun was hot you'd argue about the temprature.