Drakeford banned from one hundred pubs

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/1...-mark-19381404

Banned from one or two myself over the years but 100! :yikes:

Though judging by what the dapper first minister is pictured sipping I cant see him being too bothered.

Let's hope the Brains pubs follow suit :frown:

****ing right!
All the pubs in Wales should ban the embarrassing thick ****.

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Originally Posted by barrybloo

****ing right!
All the pubs in Wales should ban the embarrassing thick ****.

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Because he is listening to science and trying to prevent a public health apocalypse?

Is he a dictator?

Listening to science, comedy gold
The hospitality industry should take a blanket ban out on the lot of them

Good ban him,but most important don’t forget to use your vote next election.

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Originally Posted by theclaw

Good ban him,but most important don’t forget to use your vote next election.

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And vote for who exactly?

At least Nationally we have Starmer as an alternative.

Still prefer to have Drakeford and Co making the decisions where I live than Johnson's mob, but it's been a bad week for the WAG so far and they can hardly be surprised at reactions like the one outlined in the link in the OP. They're in a position now where they're getting it in the neck from those who think their Firebreak lockdown was too short, those who are unhappy about how we came out of it and those in the hospitality industry - if you're being criticised from all sides, you must be doing something wrong.

I’d love to see all his critics on here deal with the situation better.
The best advice, measures and guidelines available will always be scuppered by selfish, thoughtless boneheads.

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

I’d love to see all his critics on here deal with the situation better.
The best advice, measures and guidelines available will always be scuppered by selfish, thoughtless boneheads.

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That' strange, when it is central government that makes a decision the general consensus on here is that anyone can do it better,s o if these dictats had come from westminster they would be bad would they? :shrug:

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Originally Posted by xsnaggle

That' strange, when it is central government that makes a decision the general consensus on here is that anyone can do it better,s o if these dictats had come from westminster they would be bad would they? :shrug:

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The blame here lies with the Uk Government saying they wouldn't extend furlough and didn't need a lock down then 2 weeks later changing their mind.

If the whole of the UK had started a 4 week lockdown when Wales started theirs we would be in a much better position.

I don't envy whoever has to make these decisions but that one was a big **** up and that's what has left Wales having to make these ridiculous decisions.

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Originally Posted by MacAdder

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/1...-mark-19381404

Banned from one or two myself over the years but 100! :yikes:

Though judging by what the dapper first minister is pictured sipping I cant see him being too bothered.

Let's hope the Brains pubs follow suit :frown:

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What a childish bunch of twats. I'll ban myself from all their pubs

I don't think it'll bother him too much somehow. Of course he can't be a real man if he prefers water to beer.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

The blame here lies with the Uk Government saying they wouldn't extend furlough and didn't need a lock down then 2 weeks later changing their mind.

If the whole of the UK had started a 4 week lockdown when Wales started theirs we would be in a much better position.

I don't envy whoever has to make these decisions but that one was a big **** up and that's what has left Wales having to make these ridiculous decisions.

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Exactly. If we'd had the joined up conversation that Drakeford wanted then the 2 week firebreak may have become the 4 that was needed, in conjunction with England.

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Originally Posted by Former Labour leader

Exactly. If we'd had the joined up conversation that Drakeford wanted then the 2 week firebreak may have become the 4 that was needed, in conjunction with England.

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No joined up thnking among any of the devolved governments has been a problem the whole way through.

But no extending furlough and then doing it anyway completely ****ed Wales. Wales should have extended the fire break for 2 weeks but they'd have been crucified for that too.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

The blame here lies with the Uk Government saying they wouldn't extend furlough and didn't need a lock down then 2 weeks later changing their mind.

If the whole of the UK had started a 4 week lockdown when Wales started theirs we would be in a much better position.

I don't envy whoever has to make these decisions but that one was a big **** up and that's what has left Wales having to make these ridiculous decisions.

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You have some valid points but blaming the UK government for Dripford making the nonsensical decision to ban pubs from serving alcohol is not one of them.

What will he come up with next? Butchers cant serve meat.

****ing moron

Repeating my shared twitter post from another thread because it works here too:

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https://twitter.com/simonrug/status/1333854559417085959

Little personal plea from me. If you buying in drink for Christmas, order it from local independent Welsh breweries or from your neighbourhood pub if that is possible to support them during these challenging times.

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A list of twitter handles to be found within this link underneath the first post for those not knowing where to start.

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Originally Posted by barrybloo

****ing right!
All the pubs in Wales should ban the embarrassing thick ****.

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You sound like a highly intelligent person, what would you do to control the virus?

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Originally Posted by Hilts

And vote for who exactly?

At least Nationally we have Starmer as an alternative.

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Plaid Cymru? Conservatives? Literally any of the parties that will run in the election?

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Originally Posted by MacAdder

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/1...-mark-19381404

Banned from one or two myself over the years but 100! :yikes:

Though judging by what the dapper first minister is pictured sipping I cant see him being too bothered.

Let's hope the Brains pubs follow suit :frown:

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Brains too corporate for a champagne Socalist ban

I wonder how many hospital workers think Drakeford has made a massive mistake?

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

I wonder how many hospital workers think Drakeford has made a massive mistake?

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All the ones I know who think a controlled drink environment in a well run premises with good track and trace temperature entry checks .

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

You have some valid points but blaming the UK government for Dripford making the nonsensical decision to ban pubs from serving alcohol is not one of them.

What will he come up with next? Butchers cant serve meat.

****ing moron

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A grownup claiming bleach is a cure for C-19 is a "****ing moron". Another adult trying to protect the people he serves is not.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

All the ones I know who think a controlled drink environment in a well run premises with good track and trace temperature entry checks .

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Stick to your own planet. Most healthcare professionals know little about the spread of infectious diseases. How many epidemiologists did you consult?

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All the ones I know who think a controlled drink environment in a well run premises with good track and trace temperature entry checks .

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Apart from that alcoholic surgeon...

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Originally Posted by City123

Plaid Cymru? Conservatives? Literally any of the parties that will run in the election?

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You mean waste a vote?
Drakeford doesn't even need to try!

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

What a childish bunch of twats. I'll ban myself from all their pubs

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That's what I thought at first but when you've got virtually zero cases of covid anywhere near you then I think its a clever way to show dissatisfaction.
The one size fits all is not the answer.

I am not a lover of Brains as a company, I don't even drink their beer but I don't blame them one little bit for closing their pubs en masse.
I think he's done OK since original lockdown, but he's made a pigs ear of this last bit.

I think businesses deserve more information on an individual basis and I'd also like to see Drakeford himself out in the communities showing empathy talking to people rather than appearing on our TV's once every three weeks with a new approach after businessmen have changed their model at gteat expense and no mean effort.

He doesn't do himself any favours.

There are something like 3,100 pubs in Wales. There is a good chance Mark Drakeford will be able to find one that hasn't banned him.

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Originally Posted by MacAdder

You mean waste a vote?
Drakeford doesn't even need to try!

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Labour didn't get a majority at the last Senedd election and are on course not to get one this time either. Latest poll had them on course for 28 seats and I imagine this will hurt them in the polls.

But sure, voting for another party is a waste

For those interested in Welsh politics, this is a good podcast talking about different issues/parties etc: https://soundcloud.com/search?q=Hira...lsh%20politics

Do the people get to elect the First Minister ??

Agree with all the points that Boris reluctance to do a lockdown/extend furlough has landed Wales in this situation. Drakeford was trying to do this as a short sharp lockdown to have the minimum damage and maximum results in a short space of time. Had Boris been following advice rather than a sudden knee jerk reaction the devolved nations could’ve made more informed decisions.

Also areas of England with similar case numbers to much of Wales, pubs are closed anyway.

As a side point is it the stupidest ban ever considering he doesn’t live anywhere near? (Apart from city shirts in town on match day)

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Originally Posted by Dave Blue

You sound like a highly intelligent person, what would you do to control the virus?

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😂😂

Quarantine is when you restrict the movement of sick people. Tyranny is when you restrict the movement of healthy people.

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Originally Posted by Penybont Blue

Quarantine is when you restrict the movement of sick people. Tyranny is when you restrict the movement of healthy people.

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How does that work with asymptomatic people then?

Leaders all over the world are grampling with covid 19.Was Labour right to close hospiality in Wales?.
Were the Tories right to introduce a tier system? Who knows the leaders are playing a dead bat to the fast ball in order to try and get a result.
That result will be a successful vaccine.Drakeford will go down in history as a man who fought the fast blowers and stemmed the flow of death.Does it matter if he gets reelected?No.
Don't blame Drakeford for the club/pub closures,Blame the piss artists who failed to social distance.As each pint goes in so common sense goes out the window.

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Originally Posted by Penybont Blue

Quarantine is when you restrict the movement of sick people. Tyranny is when you restrict the movement of healthy people.

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Stupidity is when you disregard obvious health dangers in a pandemic and politicians trying to stop healthy people becoming seriously ill or worse, and calling it tyranny.

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Originally Posted by MacAdder

That's what I thought at first but when you've got virtually zero cases of covid anywhere near you then I think its a clever way to show dissatisfaction.
The one size fits all is not the answer.

I am not a lover of Brains as a company, I don't even drink their beer but I don't blame them one little bit for closing their pubs en masse.
I think he's done OK since original lockdown, but he's made a pigs ear of this last bit.

I think businesses deserve more information on an individual basis and I'd also like to see Drakeford himself out in the communities showing empathy talking to people rather than appearing on our TV's once every three weeks with a new approach after businessmen have changed their model at gteat expense and no mean effort.

He doesn't do himself any favours.

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I get your point but come on how childish and vindictive can these business people be?

Drakeford is a politician trying to do his best for the welfare of his region, he's not a drug dealer or thug who deserve to be banned from pubs for the benefit of all. You might well disagree with his policy making but come on, he's not making decisions out of malice!

With regard to the point that some areas have lower incidences of Covid than others, what does that matter? The virus can spread in a heartbeat and if pubs were open in a low incidence area then people from areas where pubs are shut would migrate to the lower incidence areas and balls everything up! This tiered system is beyond a joke.

The other thing is what happened to solidarity? I see firms like Tesco have signs up proclaiming "were in this together' are we bollocks! I suppose people who run all these pubs would have said in the second world war "we don't need blackouts or rations because the Nazis have left us alone"?

I'm glad I know where all these fifth columnists are now.

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

The other thing is what happened to solidarity? I see firms like Tesco have signs up proclaiming "were in this together' are we bollocks!

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I agree. I was talking to someone about this earlier. War time - everyone pulled together. Now so much misinformation is spread that idiots believe that it's almost as if there's a deliberate attempt to keep people fighting each other. Brexit is still the worst example of this, but opinions have polarised over Covid when they shouldn't. I worry that sense and reasoning has gone completely in favour of populism and wanting to beat the system.

Strange times - social media is probably the worst for it.

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

I suppose people who run all these pubs would have said in the second world war "we don't need blackouts or rations because the Nazis have left us alone"?

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Jesus wept....