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Big opportunity for Murphy today.
As one of his doubters I will be interested to see if does as well as Ojo.
I’d be delighted to be proven wrong!
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
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Originally Posted by
BLUEAWAY
As one of his doubters I will be interested to see if does as well as Ojo.
I’d be delighted to be proven wrong!
^^^This
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
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MacAdder
^^^This
Another assist today
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
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Originally Posted by
UNDERHILL1927
Another assist today
Indeed. Did very well for the goal, I mentioned this in the match thread.
Still frustrating to watch though.
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
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Originally Posted by
MacAdder
Indeed. Did very well for the goal, I mentioned this in the match thread.
Still frustrating to watch though.
He is a luxury of player at times but his quality is there for all to see. When he is firing on all cylinders he's unplayable. Never forget in the Prem when two full backs were subbed because he was bullying them. That Murphy is a joy to watch
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
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UNDERHILL1927
He is a luxury of player at times but his quality is there for all to see. When he is firing on all cylinders he's unplayable. Never forget in the Prem when two full backs were subbed because he was bullying them. That Murphy is a joy to watch
I wouldn't go that far :hehe:
Get enough chances to play and the law of averages says things will happen.
Glad he's been involved in something positive for his and City's sakes however, one swallow and all that.
Will save any change of opinion if and when I see some consistency.
For now though all good :thumbup:
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
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Originally Posted by
MacAdder
I wouldn't go that far :hehe:
Get enough chances to play and the law of averages says things will happen.
Glad he's been involved in something positive for his and City's sakes however, one swallow and all that.
Will save any change of opinion if and when I see some consistency.
For now though all good :thumbup:
Goal and an assist 👍😊
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
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UNDERHILL1927
Goal and an assist 👍😊
I know, I'm watching it! :hehe:
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Now subbed! :biggrin:
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
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MacAdder
I know, I'm watching it! :hehe:
Edit:
Now subbed! :biggrin:
🤣 Just confirming haha.
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
Can't ask for much more! :ayatollah:
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
Pleased for him today :thumbup:
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
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Chris Pontprennau Blues
Pleased for him today :thumbup:
The thing about Murphy is that he's at his best when not playing as a traditional winger.
His last season for Norwich he played a more roaming role. His runs, pace, crossing and finishing were sublime.
He can easily beat players when running at them at pace but he doesn't seem to do it from a standing start, which has been frustrating. Especially as before MM we weren't playing to his strengths, we were a very static team and expecting him to perform a task he isn't good at.
However, the system that MM and TC have implemented seems to suit him and Ojo very well. They get to drop a bit deeper and make runs to receive the ball. Both have goals and assists since MM and TC took over.
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
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AfricanBluebird
The thing about Murphy is that he's at his best when not playing as a traditional winger.
His last season for Norwich he played a more roaming role. His runs, pace, crossing and finishing were sublime.
He can easily beat players when running at them at pace but he doesn't seem to do it from a standing start, which has been frustrating but before MM we weren't playing to his strengths and playing him in, we were a very static team and expecting him to perform a task he isn't good at.
However, the system that MM and TC have implemented seems to suit him and Ojo very well. They get to drop a bit deeper and make runs to receive the ball. Both have goals and assists since MM and TC took over.
Agree with that.
Problem is as well Warnock and Harris very rigid with players and allowing them to express themselves. The new set up seems to work for that.
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
Class performance from Murphy today.
StT.
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I hope MM doesn't drop him next game like Warnock and Harris always did no matter how he played.
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
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Originally Posted by
BLUEAWAY
As one of his doubters I will be interested to see if does as well as Ojo.
I’d be delighted to be proven wrong!
To be fair
He looked more interested than usual
He worked harder than usual
He defended better than usual.
Laid on a goal and scored.
I’d say he had a good day.
Him or Ojo. Still Ojo.
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
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BLUEAWAY
To be fair
He looked more interested than usual
He worked harder than usual
He defended better than usual.
Laid on a goal and scored.
I’d say he had a good day.
Him or Ojo. Still Ojo.
Not for me, Murphy deserves his place and personally rather we built up a player we own, either to sell on or use.
Helping Ojo only helps him and Liverpool in the long run
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
You have to say he took it! Waited a while for that performance, let’s hope he kicks on.
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
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2b2bdoo
Not for me, Murphy deserves his place and personally rather we built up a player we own, either to sell on or use.
Helping Ojo only helps him and Liverpool in the long run
agreed, if we get the best out of Murphy we either have a good player next season, or someone we can sell for a decent fee.
if we get the best out of Ojo it'll just mean we can't afford him
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If you play well you should keep your place.
Ojo has proved what a good player he is given a run of games.
Not being chosen to start is tough to take but hopefully he will be full of confidence when he gets his chance.
In other words, Murphy played well, he should start next game.
Assuming that is, Mick wants to play a similar game.
In Mick we trust.
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For me the highlight was seeing all the other players mobbing him after his goal. They were clearly delighted for him which tells us that he is liked and rated by his peers. That was great to see. Mick has to take a lot of credit for his man management. Who would seriously have thought each of Vaulks, Murphy, Flint and Pack would step up collectively? I doff my cap to the man, I really do.
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
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Lord Dargavel
For me the highlight was seeing all the other players mobbing him after his goal. They were clearly delighted for him which tells us that he is liked and rated by his peers. That was great to see. Mick has to take a lot of credit for his man management. Who would seriously have thought each of Vaulks, Murphy, Flint and Pack would step up collectively? I doff my cap to the man, I really do.
Well said. Flints been out in the cold, discarded by Wednesday and he’s slotted in for us on a nice run now. If he can get the best out of Murphy it will be like a new, top signing.
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
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BlueArmy 86
Well said. Flints been out in the cold, discarded by Wednesday and he’s slotted in for us on a nice run now. If he can get the best out of Murphy it will be like a new, top signing.
I think Flint for Wednesday was more of a injury issue and manager change as I'm sure he was doing well before that.
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
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2b2bdoo
I think Flint for Wednesday was more of a injury issue and manager change as I'm sure he was doing well before that.
I don't understand that.
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
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BlueArmy 86
Well said. Flints been out in the cold, discarded by Wednesday and he’s slotted in for us on a nice run now. If he can get the best out of Murphy it will be like a new, top signing.
Murphy scored 8 goals last season despite limited playing time and 4 in the Premier League in his first season but Warnock and Harris never played him regularly! He scored and had an assist today but Mick substituted him for Bacuna and Coventry pulled a goal back when he was running tired defenders ragged?
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xsnaggle
I don't understand that.
They sent him back because he was injured and changed manager.
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
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2b2bdoo
They sent him back because he was injured and changed manager.
Yup, my best mate is a Wednesday fan and said he really impressed when he played.
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
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2b2bdoo
They sent him back because he was injured and changed manager.
Ah, now I understand it. :hehe:
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Its pretty clear from MM's comment and his selection that he believes Flint can add something. He knows him from previous days.
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Ianto13
Murphy scored 8 goals last season despite limited playing time and 4 in the Premier League in his first season but Warnock and Harris never played him regularly! He scored and had an assist today but Mick substituted him for Bacuna and Coventry pulled a goal back when he was running tired defenders ragged?
What is your point Ianto? Genuine question as it’s not clear
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
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Lord Dargavel
What is your point Ianto? Genuine question as it’s not clear
I agree with him. There were quite a few City players who were tired in the last twenty minutes and yet it was Murphy, who was playing well and one of the men who could have done with a full ninety minutes given his lack of game time who was taken off. Under the two Neils, it seemed almost compulsory that Murphy had to be subbed in games he started no matter how he was playing,and now Mick McCarthy has done the same thing - maybe he has some sort of chronic injury which needs constant monitoring, but if he does, there’s been little sign of it while he’s on the pitch.
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I didn't read anymore into his substitution other than that he was excellent yesterday, did his job and MM knowing the game was won, needed to protect him for Tuesday, with doubts still over Ojo and Holliet,
Had he stayed on and had an injury then the question would be asked why wasn't he taken off.
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
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olderblue
I didn't read anymore into his substitution other than that he was excellent yesterday, did his job and MM knowing the game was won, needed to protect him for Tuesday, with doubts still over Ojo and Holliet,
Had he stayed on and had an injury then the question would be asked why wasn't he taken off.
And the same question would apply to four or five who he kept on.
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
Other than most have been used to playing a full 90 minutes when on, Murphy hasn't.
I would have taken Moore off as well, but maybe Mick thought he'd grab a hat trick?
It was a very young bench and with an uncertainty about Ojo and Hoilett being fit for Tuesday, it was just insurance, maybe he felt too many subs would be disruptive as we saw out the game?
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
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2b2bdoo
Not for me, Murphy deserves his place and personally rather we built up a player we own, either to sell on or use.
Helping Ojo only helps him and Liverpool in the long run
If he continues to perform then maybe but Ojo is a better player and it’s results that we need to be concerned about, not the value of Murphy on whom we make a huge loss.
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
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the other bob wilson
I agree with him. There were quite a few City players who were tired in the last twenty minutes and yet it was Murphy, who was playing well and one of the men who could have done with a full ninety minutes given his lack of game time who was taken off. Under the two Neils, it seemed almost compulsory that Murphy had to be subbed in games he started no matter how he was playing,and now Mick McCarthy has done the same thing - maybe he has some sort of chronic injury which needs constant monitoring, but if he does, there’s been little sign of it while he’s on the pitch.
That maybe have been because he was adding little to defence or attack for the time he was on the field, looked disinterested and lazy. MM appears to have changed that.
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Murphy now has 4 assists in 5.5 X 90 minutes.
that is the highest in the league for anyone who has played more than 5 games.
he has 0.73 Assists per 90
the next highest have around 0.41
Harry Wilson is 5th highest with 0.35.
you'd expect Murphy's rate to come down a bit with more minutes, but it's a great start.
a couple of those assists recently have been really good as well
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Good stats.
He must continue to contribute as describe below.
Hoilett is good at the defensive stuff but had lost the sparkle upfront.
Ojo can do all three
Every time Josh has come onto the pitch, he’s had an impact. We know he’s got real quality, like the pass he found on Tuesday night at Rotherham. I ask him to track back and be disciplined in the middle third, and then he can show his magic and those dancing feet in the final third.
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
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the other bob wilson
I agree with him. There were quite a few City players who were tired in the last twenty minutes and yet it was Murphy, who was playing well and one of the men who could have done with a full ninety minutes given his lack of game time who was taken off. Under the two Neils, it seemed almost compulsory that Murphy had to be subbed in games he started no matter how he was playing,and now Mick McCarthy has done the same thing - maybe he has some sort of chronic injury which needs constant monitoring, but if he does, there’s been little sign of it while he’s on the pitch.
He got clattered by the keeper a few minutes before didn’t he? He was down for a while. Perhaps they just thought it wasn’t worth making the injury worse and make sure he can play on Tuesday.
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Re: Big opportunity for Murphy today.
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Pedro de la Rosa
He got clattered by the keeper a few minutes before didn’t he? He was down for a while. Perhaps they just thought it wasn’t worth making the injury worse and make sure he can play on Tuesday.
Possibly, but Moore needed treatment on at least one occasion and if there’s one player we should be taking off as a precaution, it’s surely him? I’d also say that Moore was so knackered in the last ten minutes that one of Watters, Harris or Davies may have been more effective than him.