Crowds banned from all sporting events in Wales for foreseeable future

But we can still go to away games for now.....

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...wales-22525909

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Originally Posted by Father Dougal

But we can still go to away games for now.....

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...wales-22525909

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Maybe radical but I wonder if the Welsh clubs will consider moving the home games to an English ground? Got to be better having a few thousand Cardiff fans there than playing behind closed doors? Would the league allow it?

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Originally Posted by Father Dougal

Maybe radical but I wonder if the Welsh clubs will consider moving the home games to an English ground? Got to be better having a few thousand Cardiff fans there than playing behind closed doors? Would the league allow it?

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I doubt it. What benefits would the English clubs get? Our closest ground would be Ashton Gate in Bristol. In letting us play there they’d be strengthening a relegation rival, ruin their pitch with twice the amount of games being played and probably lose out financially. We’d probably only take 3000 or 4000. I’d also imagine their supporters wouldn’t like their club helping out a rival team.

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Originally Posted by Canton Kev

I doubt it. What benefits would the English clubs get? Our closest ground would be Ashton Gate in Bristol. In letting us play there they’d be strengthening a relegation rival, ruin their pitch with twice the amount of games being played and probably lose out financially. We’d probably only take 3000 or 4000. I’d also imagine their supporters wouldn’t like their club helping out a rival team.

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Yeah I was thinking much smaller than that. Likes of Hereford and forest Green rovers. Even Chasetown!

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Originally Posted by Father Dougal

Maybe radical but I wonder if the Welsh clubs will consider moving the home games to an English ground? Got to be better having a few thousand Cardiff fans there than playing behind closed doors? Would the league allow it?

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a non-league team might be glad of the income, then size comes into play, around 2 K at Gloucester's new place, Chippenhams place holds just over 3 K

Love the idea of playing at Forest Greens, new lawn stadium.

They would welcome the revenue, and only an hours drive away.

While I appreciate it would never happen, and would certainly not be in the spirit of the restrictions. I am certain we would sell out every game, 5k capacity, and would be a fun / quirky experience for our fan base.

Always enjoyed our pre seasons friendlies at the lawn, and the veggie food is very good!

The English will follow in a couple of weeks.

If Drakeford had any control over the furlough scheme I think we'd have seen a lot more places being closed for a few weeks.

Good move by city to call off the Coventry game if they saw this decision coming. We need a good few covid cases for the next few home games too.

Although it might be pointless, I don’t see us being back in the stadium this season

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Originally Posted by Father Dougal

But we can still go to away games for now.....

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...wales-22525909

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A few thoughts on the shortest day of the year.

There’s loads of events going on with crowds, indoors and outdoors. Where’s the stats to show whether these events are spreaders?

Is this closure an acceptance that vaccine passports don’t work?

If the third jab protects 80% or whatever figure we’re currently quoting, shouldn’t at least those people be able to attend?

Half of the people currently in hospital with Covid in London were admitted for another problem

This decision could see us relegated !!!

Will Duckford be able to compensate the club for that ?

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Originally Posted by EastbourneBlue

A few thoughts on the shortest day of the year.

There’s loads of events going on with crowds, indoors and outdoors. Where’s the stats to show whether these events are spreaders?

Is this closure an acceptance that vaccine passports don’t work?

If the third jab protects 80% or whatever figure we’re currently quoting, shouldn’t at least those people be able to attend?

Half of the people currently in hospital with Covid in London were admitted for another problem

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Until covid passports are only issued if you've had a booster, then their not really worth having if you want to stop omicron spreading. I can see them changing within the next month.

It's outdoors.

Not even a reduced capacity, or for a month or two making the passport negative lft.

Poor show from Welsh Labour as they arbitrarily close down indoor and outdoor sporting events for spectators.

https://mauveandyellowarmy.net/

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Originally Posted by Trigger

It's outdoors.

Not even a reduced capacity, or for a month or two making the passport negative lft.

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This is why it's such a lazy law. In a 33,000 seater stadium we aren't even allowed 1,000 people in all who will have been triple vaxxed and a negative test. And the cymru premier games that get about 2 or 300 won't have anyone in. Yet people will be able to watch legally from the bars overlooking the pitch all crowded together and drinking indoors.

They won't explain 'the science' behind why only the indoors drinking and crowded scenario is now legal but it would be interesting to hear.

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Originally Posted by Father Dougal

But we can still go to away games for now.....

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...wales-22525909

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someone should tell radio wales our game has already been cancelled:xmashehe:

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Poor show from Welsh Labour as they arbitrarily close down indoor and outdoor sporting events for spectators.

https://mauveandyellowarmy.net/

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It really is inconsistent isn't it.
I agree though, our home form might pick up as a result.
How much of a financial hit will this give us as well if it carries on for long with little or no compensation scheme in place?

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

This decision could see us relegated !!!

Will Duckford be able to compensate the club for that ?

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Bristol City chief exec on the radio said each game is worth £400k to them, so £3m ain’t gonna go far.

We’re obviously in financial strife and this is the last thing we needed

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Originally Posted by Father Dougal

This is why it's such a lazy law. In a 33,000 seater stadium we aren't even allowed 1,000 people in all who will have been triple vaxxed and a negative test. And the cymru premier games that get about 2 or 300 won't have anyone in. Yet people will be able to watch legally from the bars overlooking the pitch all crowded together and drinking indoors.

They won't explain 'the science' behind why only the indoors drinking and crowded scenario is now legal but it would be interesting to hear.

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This.
Boxing day is a big one when it comes to local rugby as well. Everyone will all just pile in to the clubhouses 11am on the piss now where as could have been outside watching the games played.
I can understand trying to stem the covid rate rise and knew something was coming but this latest closure does seem to the extreme.

This is absolutely pointless because no ones going to listen

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

This decision could see us relegated !!!

Will Duckford be able to compensate the club for that ?

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Our home form is atrocious. Maybe a lack of crowds will be a blessing!

Notwithstanding our awful home form, this decision will put the City at a great disadvantage with our fellow relegation strugglers. I think you can expect Pubs to close in New Year, too.

Cymru Am Byth.

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

This is absolutely pointless because no ones going to listen

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What do you mean? Do you think people are going to turn up at the stadium demanding to be let in?

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Poor show from Welsh Labour as they arbitrarily close down indoor and outdoor sporting events for spectators.

https://mauveandyellowarmy.net/

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I'm glad you posted this Bob. I heard about this last night and couldn't sleep for hours mulling this over and was going to post something similar on here this morning. So I was both surprised and relieved that I am, at least, not going completely mad by not either supporting or understanding the decision by the Welsh government.

I'm actually furious about this because this feels more like panic (not a good look for any leaders) and has very little scientific basis. Once again, we're back to an overloaded health service fear, two years into a pandemic and I'd like to know the logistical planning that has been taking place over this period that should have anticipated the resources required to deal with it.

The real damage now is that, without proper explanation, figures, reasoning, and argument to back this decision, they have made the scientific argument redundant, and thus, they've rendered their own credibility and authority redundant also. It's really damaging. Poorly done. Badly communicated.

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Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew

I'm glad you posted this Bob. I heard about this last night and couldn't sleep for hours mulling this over and was going to post something similar on here this morning. So I was both surprised and relieved that I am, at least, not going completely mad by not either supporting or understanding the decision by the Welsh government.

I'm actually furious about this because this feels more like panic (not a good look for any leaders) and has very little scientific basis. Once again, we're back to an overloaded health service fear, two years into a pandemic and I'd like to know the logistical planning that has been taking place over this period that should have anticipated the resources required to deal with it.

The real damage now is that, without proper explanation, figures, reasoning, and argument to back this decision, they have made the scientific argument redundant, and thus, they've rendered their own credibility and authority redundant also. It's really damaging. Poorly done. Badly communicated.

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Agreed. We've constantly been told they're "following the science". Well they're not are they? No real evidence that outside events like this spread the disease. There's also very little evidence on the effects of the Omicron variant and that which does exist suggests its relatively mild. Welsh hospitals are not currently overwhelmed with Covid cases and there's no evidence to suggest they will be. But we've let them impose draconian restrictions without much resistance before so they don't really fear any reprisals from the Welsh electorate.

Excluding the FA Cup game.
We have home games on 15 and 30th January.
If everyone gets boosterd ASAP allowing for the vaccine kick in period of 14 days we could be back in for the game on the 30th.

Seems a bizarre call to me. Generally I support the Welsh Gov, they've tried to be proportionate and honest, easy to be like that in comparison with Johnson's shambles I suppose.

This seems random and "we must do something". I suppose it won't cost too much and be less admin compared to shutting hospitality, theatres etc?

One thought, does it apply to TNS whose ground is over the border?

And Hereford have home games over Christmas. December 28th v Gloucester. You'd be very welcome if you need a football fix. (Dons tin hat and retreats rapidly).

We must do something.

This is something.

Therefore, we must do this.

Presumably we will all be able to pack out our local pubs to watch Boxing day matches? If so, this is a very curious move.

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

This decision could see us relegated !!!

Will Duckford be able to compensate the club for that ?

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Well who is responsible for our appalling home record? If the players are fearful of playing at home, we could be on the play offs by March.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Presumably we will all be able to pack out our local pubs to watch Boxing day matches? If so, this is a very curious move.

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They'll be announcing later that it'll be table service only from Boxing day, so pubs won't be packed.

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Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy

We must do something.

This is something.

Therefore, we must do this.

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Brilliant! Poetry even. :xmasthumbup:

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Originally Posted by Llanishen Bull

Seems a bizarre call to me. Generally I support the Welsh Gov, they've tried to be proportionate and honest, easy to be like that in comparison with Johnson's shambles I suppose.

This seems random and "we must do something". I suppose it won't cost too much and be less admin compared to shutting hospitality, theatres etc?

One thought, does it apply to TNS whose ground is over the border?

And Hereford have home games over Christmas. December 28th v Gloucester. You'd be very welcome if you need a football fix. (Dons tin hat and retreats rapidly).

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It does seem odd that outdoor events are cancelled but pubs stay open but I suppose the Welsh Government's hands are tied because the Treasury only step in when England needs support so the Welsh Government has to pick what it can afford.

This decision only really affects us by the Blackburn game as very few people go to the cup games mainly because recent managers haven't treated them properly and by the 15th the decision could be reversed.

Pubs will be next to close.

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Originally Posted by PontBlue

It does seem odd that outdoor events are cancelled but pubs stay open but I suppose the Welsh Government's hands are tied because the Treasury only step in when England needs support so the Welsh Government has to pick what it can afford.

This decision only really affects us by the Blackburn game as very few people go to the cup games mainly because recent managers haven't treated them properly and by the 15th the decision could be reversed.

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No need for them to close pubs as people are staying away anyway. They'll bring back table service and limited numbers but can't do anything else as he has no control over furlough.

Yeah a March to Kim jong Drakefords place will probably occur instead….

They have to do something but can’t do what needs to be done because of the loons in Parliament. So instead there is this token gesture that doesn’t make sense.

The fact that they have only earmarked £3m to help ease the burden of this, which in the grand scheme of things isn't a large amount would point to this being a very short term measure. If they did nothing now, and cases surged there would be a very real chance they would have to put restrictions on the 6 nations games, which would cause an even bigger uproar. I think sporting events are taking the hit now in the hope that they wont have to impact on the "Jewel" in Wales crown come February.

Just want to be seen to be doing something

Welsh Government built up goodwill over the last year or so, they're in danger of blowing it with arbitrary rule changes that aren't being properly justified