It’s not looking good for them at all, is it. Three down at Spurs as we speak, one point above the bottom three and in free fall. Leeds in the mix as well.
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It’s not looking good for them at all, is it. Three down at Spurs as we speak, one point above the bottom three and in free fall. Leeds in the mix as well.
Leeds or Everton instead of Burnley.....preferably LeedsQuote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
Both of them would be ok, in fact, them two & Newcastle would have done it for me. The Geordies seem to have ridden out the storm though.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
4-0.
Spurs score 40 seconds into the second half.
Just looked at the table and hadn't realised how far they'd fallen.
They're survival could depend on how well Leeds' new manager gets on.
The Geordies have ridden out the storm by buying the biggest Yacht. Frank will just about keep Everton up, they'll start poorly next season, he'll get the boot and roll back into town with Derby when Ashley buys them out. Returning under the banner of 'Unfinished Business'Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
I fancy Dyche to keep Burnley up again and finally leave this summerQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
The rest of this month is huge for Everton, they've got West Ham, Liverpool, Man United and Chelsea in April before going to Arsenal on the final day
5-0
Both Leeds & Everton’s goal difference look pretty grim opposed to Burnley’s, could be a factor.
Big Sam incoming?
Everton really are abysmal.
It's crazy what has happened to them in a relatively short space of time.
When Calvert-Lewin was banging them in for fun they were Europe material.
The commentary team are raving about Harry Kane but he hasn't really had to break sweat.
I have no beef with Everton but as they are one of the "Big Six", it would be nice to see them relegated.
Leeds look as bad as Everton but they could see a "manager bounce". Either would do me.
Dyche has been there and done it on a shoestring budget so I think/hope they will survive.
Everton really have hit the rocks at a vital time of the season, have they got the arse for the fight? New situation for them whereas Burnley and Dyche are seasoned battlers, going to be interesting.
Not sure Everton are considered one of the 'big six' and probably haven't been since the phrase really got pushed by Sky. That being said it'd be the biggest relegation out of the top flight ever arguably. Hope Burnley do stay up but think their time is up.Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAdder
Fun fact: Frank Lampard is a Tory.
I don't know why they hired Lampard. Terrible decision. I still fancy Leeds to go down though.
There used to be a big 5. Liverpool, Everton, Man Utd, Spurs and Arsenal. That was nearly 40 years ago mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Der Kaiser
I would love to see Everton. Got unfinished business.
0-0 draw at NP, probably the best goalkeeping display I ever saw that day by Everton goalie. I fancy it came out later that something odd happened that night with him. Drugs?
0-2 FA cup.
I know we’ve played them twice in the Prem since, at home, but those games still rankle
Everton have the better squad than Leeds or Burnley.
That should have read "Big Five" as NYC mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Der Kaiser
They most definitely aren't in the top five clubs in the prem and haven't been for some time but they were part of the breakaway group which lead to the greedy league.
Would be good to see them suffer.
I thought that Leeds were excellent against Leicester and didn't deserve to lose that game. The new manager seems to have tightened up their defence in a way that Bielsa seemed reluctant or unable to do. Everton may have a better squad but their confidence seems to be ebbing away from them rapidly and they have a lot of very tough matches coming up. Burnley always seem to do enough to stay up but this might be one season too far. Pity because I like Sean Dyche.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Can't argue with that. Always nice to see a big club come down and rot for some time.Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAdder
It's a shame the likes of Everton, Spurs etc don't struggle for 5 years , bloody poncesQuote:
Originally Posted by Der Kaiser
I can't see Everton or Spurs slumming it for 5 years. A year more likely or 2 max.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Everton only escaped relegation on goal difference in the 1997-98 season. They may finally have run out of luck.
Big clubs generally as you suggest don't stay down for too longQuote:
Originally Posted by Moodybluebird
Spurs , Arsenal , Everton etc it really would be great to see them struggle
Everton just don’t do relegation historically, but they are showing classic relegation tendencies this season - it’s only their misleadingly good start that is keeping them, just, above water and if your take away the big club label they have, there would be nothing that would prevent them being everyone’s relegation tip. I’d be very worried if I were an Everton fan that Lampard’s appointment has seen the tiniest of new manager bounces and angry that they have spent £400 million or so in recent years to get to this point.
I think they may well go down and I hope they take Leeds and Watford (really dislike that club under their present ownership) with them.
The one thing I thought Lampard would bring was a bit of fight, yesterday was an embarrassment…..and because they didn’t score I didn’t win 120 quid but I’m not bitter 🤣
Their defence is garbage not even decent Championship standard. Coleman Holgate Keane Kenny is shocking.
Would like to see them down.
One of these meh clubs that just seem to do nothing, in my lifetime anyway.
They would be almost straight back up unless they have issues behind the scenes, so maybe even their fans could enjoy watching something interesting for a change.
Relegation for them would be a financial disaster. They have loans taken out on a new stadium. Theyd need 7 or 8 new players.
That team as it stands would struggle to bounce back.
Calvert Lewin looks like hes downed tools.
They are terrible.
52,000 seater new stadium going up in the docks. If Everton get relegated, it could be our last chance to see them at Goodison. The Everton ST holders in our family are a little worried about their prospects, to say the least.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
The new stadium looks superb but, no doubt, relies on income from remaining in the PL. Everton's run in at the end of the season is not going to do them any favours.
https://www.evertonfc.com/news/24348...verton-stadium
Bigger than Villa when they went down a few years back?Quote:
Originally Posted by Der Kaiser
Burnley have stunk up the league for years, I have no desire to see them succeed. that said it would be very funny if lampard took Everton down
Yes, I can remember Villa being in the old Third Division. I think I'm right in saying that only Arsenal have a longer top flight existence than Everton.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canton Kev
Everton have only been relegated twice, 1930s & 1950s, Villa on the other hand have, on times, been a bit of a yo yo club. No comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canton Kev
Hopefully good ol' Frankie, if he goes to Derby under the banner of 'Unfinished Business' will take them out of League One...and into League TwoQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Not sure what your definition of a yo-yo club is, but out of 123 seasons in the league since its inauguration, Villa have not been in the top flight for 15 of them. Their 108 seasons in the top division is the 2nd highest behind Everton, who've managed 119. They've been relegated from the top flight 5 times and their recent 3 season stint in the Championship was the 2nd longest they've been out of the top division since the 60s and 70s, where their 8 years included 2 seasons in Division 3, as TOBW mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
Looking at my records, Arsenal have been relegated from the top division once, Liverpool 3 times, Spurs 4, Villa and Man Utd 5, Chelsea and Newcastle 6, Man City 10. Villa have played more top flight matches than anyone bar Liverpool, Arsenal and Everton.
Everton are 7th in the all-time attendance table and as has been mentioned will be moving into a brand new 52,000 seat stadium in two years. I'd be amazed if they didn't come straight back up.
I agree with that. When Villa went down a few years ago they had one of the worst PL seasons in history, they really were dreadful and I didn't think at the time they would go straight back up. Everton are nowhere near as bad as that Villa team were.Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
Likewise, seems like this is a now or never moment in football as well, likelihood is they'll sort themselves out and be fine next season. Would make a real change to the usual sized clubs that yoyo between the two divisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
Looking at an example such as Hamburg however, you never know... maybe Everton come down and it just all goes wrong, Hamburg have had a horrendous time trying to get out of the Bundesliga 2. I can dream.
Villa’s top flight record is certainly helped by being one of the 12. Compared to Everton in modern times they’ve had the bleaker time. Ok, not so much a yo yo club but compared to the others, bar Man City, going down to the third tier would be unthinkable. In my growing up years Villa were the record FA Cup winners, that record’s been obliterated. Yes, they have a very commendable European Cup to their name but to me they’ve always been a successful Victorian/Edwardian club. But, as you’ve corrected me, not a yo yo club, it just seems to me we’ve played them in the league a lot more than the other bigger guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee