And in my memory always have been
However when the season finishes its likely we are going to be fairly close on points
I have absolutely no idea where I am going with this so I am going to leave it there whilst the going is good
God bless you all
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And in my memory always have been
However when the season finishes its likely we are going to be fairly close on points
I have absolutely no idea where I am going with this so I am going to leave it there whilst the going is good
God bless you all
No shit Sherlock :sherlock:
Even the goalkeeper was better
You beat a side like Swansea by scaring the crap out of them for 90 minutesQuote:
Originally Posted by Des Parrot
They don't like it up em
You could substitute any team in that title.
Everyone seems to have the opinion that they are an extremely good footballing side but they are 16th, one place above us.
They don’t seem to frighten other sides like they do City
They have always played nice footballQuote:
Originally Posted by DubaiDai
But they are not Brazil 1970
It wouldn't surprise me if we both have shaggy seasons next year but we grab a one nil win down the statue of liberty
They will all shut up then . This double thing is absolutely meaningless .
Game over , get on with it City .
I'm not so sure they frighten City so much, but their games against us define their season. Look at how well they usually start a derby match. For years it has meant more to them than virtually any game.Quote:
Originally Posted by DubaiDai
Isn’t that how derbies against your fiercest rivals are supposed to make you feel?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Great point, which leads to the way we play and our tactics, which like Swansea, is unique in a lot of ways in this Division, different, but polar opposites. You're correct when you say that the majority of sides have the tactical ability to combat Swansea, because they are more flexible and have a coach who has the confidence to allow his players to push swansea in midfield, force them backwards. Our 'Unique' approach doesn't allow for that, it never has, we allow possession, time on the ball,don't get our midfielders in advanced positions, defenders don't step out. It's rigid, completely rigid, and if there was ever a style of play that thrives against our system, it's Swansea's, even though they aren't up to much.Quote:
Originally Posted by DubaiDai
We allowed that to happen yesterday, that's the biggest disappointment, played into their hands, and that's because we play a rigid, crappy, flat style of football that only sees our wingbacks as an advanced threat, Stop them and we are ****ed, we beat ourselves, because there are no other options or ideas.
Correct. Their manager wants them to play out from the back, but they're not very good at it when put under pressure. Our tactic of pressing with two or three players and the rest dropping deep made them look far better than they actually are.Quote:
Originally Posted by DubaiDai
And meant they could continuously find open spaces. We should have gone man for man against them and pressed all over the pitch, or not at all. Pressing 2 or 3 against a competent side is worse than not pressing at all, as they'll beat that press easily and take those 3 out of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy
Did we try to press them like that before the first goal? I missed the start of the game stuck in a big queue to get into the stadium. I'm wondering if the plan was to sit back and let them have the ball, but them scoring early forced us to do something different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
So you missed the absolute sitter they missed after about 30 seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy
Yes. We were 1-0 behind before I got to my seat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Wrong tactics yesterday. Don’t sit back whatever, what did we do? Probably should have started with Rubin and Davies who would have been Uber keen and in their faces like they always are to us. Another lacking showing from us, they must love playing us…..Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Backs to the wall v Peterborough a few weeks ago also, they were lucky to come away with a win by all accounts and Martin ball was under big pressure. They had a far easier ride yesterday than they did at London rdQuote:
Originally Posted by DubaiDai
I do think they played some good football yesterday and looked confident with the ball. None of their players panicked. I really like Grimes. It's sometimes hard to know exactly how the goals come about without replays but I suspect they look really good from a neutrals point of view.
A lot of comments around me were along the lines of 'how are they only one place above us?'
I'll probably get burned at the stake for saying I enjoyed watching them yesterday. There was some good football out there it just wasn't from us.
Something more than tactics was off yesterday though (and they were way off). Something wasn't right in the camp. That's my feeling being close to the dugout. It wasn't just the style that was flat.
Absolutely.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Over the last 7 games against them the aggregate is 13-1. There are precious few occasions where we've only scored 1 goal in 7 successive games. We've only managed 0 goals in 7 successive league games once, our current last 7 vs Spurs.
I can understand a side like Tottenham having an excellent record given the gulf between the clubs. To have such a poor record against our biggest rivals shows how much more they care about the tie and should be seen as shameful from our perspective.
If only they could spell! :hehe:
Doube plus good!
It'll never get old. It was the only silver lining from yesterday. At least they f*cked up the celebratory banner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew
To be fair that is the best we have played for a long long time.
But we were shit :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxim
:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepster
how you doing long time since you have posted hope all is well :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxim
I think this is correct. It makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
:ayatollah:
Looking at your forum last few weeks it’s been mixed on whether Martin should even continue as manager, good old us, always there to straighten things out for you lot and get you back on track….:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxim
Probably, we had loads behind the ball for the first goal. Ng's positioning is God awful. He's further forward than Obafemi but he's stood next to him. Awful. Don't get me started on the second, it is absolutely schoolboy stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy
We really do make them look levels above, there has to be a reason for that.If they were tonking sides like that week in, week out, then i'd say fair enough, but they're not, far from it. We allowed that to happen, even though they are a better football side than us.Quote:
Originally Posted by rich munn
Our eventual attempts at pressing in the first half were embarrassing to put in mildly.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy
I am doing great Jeeps,I am always in the back ground dont you worry and still in contact with a few of the lads on here.:thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepster
It can be very frustrating watching the Swans with some of pointless passing around the back and then on other days its a joy to watch just like yesterday.I cant believe how your lot sat back at watched us pass the ball around. :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
We knew that. It will be the best you play until the next time as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxim
I think the final positions and points will be a lot closer than those 2 scores lines and performances were.
Neither of us can be happy with season as whole.
first goal was strange in that we had loads of men back, yet a fairly simple ball on the ground into the box managed to go past about 4 of our defenders and find their player for a tap in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
I think flint could have got a touch but maybe he was thinking he'd put through his own net.
the second took a lucky deflection to fall to their player in load sof space, but how was he in that much space in the middle of the box?
the third Bagan should have been trying to stop the cross imo but was miles away, and NG has to do a lot better than that in the air, although he can't have seen much as he was jumping into the sunlight - I'm not convinced he'd have got to it anyway.
lots of issues defensively where we had been a lot more solid in recent weeks.
hopefully we see a reaction in the next games
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Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew
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Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew
Apparently Swansea's players stayed in training throughout the international breakQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Aden Flint, on the other hand, was on holiday in Dubai
Your memory is flawed. They have not always been a better footballing side than us. There was a time when they didn't even matter. Yes, they played some good stuff in the last 10 years or so. They weren't even great this weekend. We were just shit. Get a grip. Most of our starting 11 will be gone come June. Sticking to fishing and semi-attractive middle-aged TV presenters. Football is not your game.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Well the Swansea side that got to the old first division did it playing football . And that style has stayed with them .Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
That's most of my life following Cardiff . If you don't think that's the case ......
You have clearly been scoffing on too many chilli dogs or walking around with your eyes shut .
They have spent a lot longer in the top flight in most peoples memory than we have .
Period .
I had one chili dog in old town Philadephia in 1989. Never again. From the mid '80s Swansea spent 20 years being shit. We weren't too much better but we had our moments. And during that time they certainly weren't a better footballing side than us. They started playing decent football when Martinez took over. But we played some decent stuff under Dave Jones too. Also, judging by your posts over the last couple of years, you don't even like or advocate for decent football.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I had one chili dog in old town Philadephia in 1989. Never again. From the mid '80s Swansea spent 20 years being shit. We weren't too much better but we had our moments. And during that time they certainly weren't a better footballing side than us. They started playing decent football when Martinez took over. But we played some decent stuff under Dave Jones too. Also, judging by your posts over the last couple of years, you don't even like or advocate for decent football. Hence "'ave it" and "they don't like it up 'em"Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY