Sabri Lamouchi after defeat at Hull

“I have a good squad. They are very nice guys, but maybe too nice.

“Cardiff must stay in the Championship, so we must find a solution. We need to be more aggressive in the two boxes and change our mentality to the game.

“If we opened the scoring first, it's a different game – but it's not enough. We are all disappointed. We can't accept what's happened.

“We have to change something because we have three teams behind us. We need to fight and to switch on. And if you want to win, you must score.

“I didn't think we deserved to lose. We are close but far at the same time.

“We created chances but not enough to get back into the game.

“It's very simple: we are frustrated and disappointed. We need to be more aggressive and show we want more from the game than their opponents.

“Maybe with a goal and a win, the confidence will be back. But, at the moment, we are in a bad moment and in a bad situation.

“We need to find a different spirit. Not from one, but all. We're very disappointed with the result but not the performance.

"We have 16 finals between now and the end of the season.

"We need to win five, six [games].

"The fans need to support us.

"Nobody wants to go down. We will fight until the last game, until the last day, because we believe and we trust in our players, our team, our squad, our club.

"It will be really tough. But the only goal is to have three teams behind us at the end of the season.

"With three teams behind us, it will be a fantastic season. But we need to fight."

Basically saying that the players need to show some character and dig themselves out of this shit show, and i think that he is right. Forget the cliches and all that bullshit, we need a few of the players to put themselves out of their comfort zone, get themselves noticed on the pitch, to be assertive etc. Wintle is a weak link in my opinion, he never controls the tempo of a game, never splits a pass, plays within himself, he's coasting, and that's no way to be in his position on the field of play.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Basically saying that the players need to show some character and dig themselves out of this shit show, and i think that he is right. Forget the cliches and all that bullshit, we need a few of the players to put themselves out of their comfort zone, get themselves noticed on the pitch, to be assertive etc. Wintle is a weak link in my opinion, he never controls the tempo of a game, never splits a pass, plays within himself, he's coasting, and that's no way to be in his position on the field of play.

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I’d play Rino and Ralls. Win the ball back and give it to the front 2/3. I’d play all 3 strikers, and go route 1. We are dire, we could play all week and not score. We looked semi threatening when Etete and Sory went up top together

New manager thud.

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

I’d play Rino and Ralls. Win the ball back and give it to the front 2/3. I’d play all 3 strikers, and go route 1. We are dire, we could play all week and not score. We looked semi threatening when Etete and Sory went up top together

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Something has to happen, and if it means taking some risks in order to get some confidence, then lets ****ing go for it, because what we have at the moment isn't working. We need to score goals. I don't want to pick on wintle, but i don't rate him, i don't think that he's up to this level. He is very limited.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Something has to happen, and if it means taking some risks in order to get some confidence, then lets ****ing go for it, because what we have at the moment isn't working. We need to score goals. I don't want to pick on wintle, but i don't rate him, i don't think that he's up to this level. He is very limited.

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Agree about wintle, looked good early in the season I thought but needs to be dropped. Not up to it. Also need to work on set pieces and crossing. There was improvement today. But yes we need goals

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Originally Posted by jimmyscoular

New manager thud.

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It is. Not a bounce in sight.

But I like Lamouchi from the little I have seen so far. He talks straight. He seems to know what he needs to do (and it doesn’t involve a magic wand). He appears to be a coach who is focused on attitude and improving the players in the squad. They should be better than they have been. He had little or no chance to affect what the club did in the window and he hasn’t used that as an excuse.

I’m not optimistic, but we have a chance with this manager.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

It is. Not a bounce in sight.

But I like Lamouchi from the little I have seen so far. He talks straight. He seems to know what he needs to do (and it doesn’t involve a magic wand). He appears to be a coach who is focused on attitude and improving the players in the squad. They should be better than they have been. He had little or no chance to affect what the club did in the window and he hasn’t used that as an excuse.

I’m not optimistic, but we have a chance with this manager.

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Put it this way if we go down he's exactly the sort of modern thinking manager people feel we need

And therefore we already have him in place

If Tan sacks him if we get relegated we may as well take up darts

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Originally Posted by superfeathers

Agree about wintle, looked good early in the season I thought but needs to be dropped. Not up to it. Also need to work on set pieces and crossing. There was improvement today. But yes we need goals

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I disagree about Wintle. He’s been playing for us for just over a year after returning from Blackpool and he’s been good for all of that time apart from the last six weeks or so where, like three or four others, his standards have dropped.

As far as I am concerned, Ralls is a liability at the moment, and I would not play him if we are looking for goals. He is too one footed, and nine times out of ten the ball goes backwards stopping any momentum. He also commits a large amount of fouls during a game, quite often ending in a booking. We need a more attacking midfielder, and I think Sang should be given a chance to show his attacking flair. With a big centre forward now on our books, we also need two fast and tricky wingers in the team, with O’Dowda and Davies the obvious choices.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

I disagree about Wintle. He’s been playing for us for just over a year after returning from Blackpool and he’s been good for all of that time apart from the last six weeks or so where, like three or four others, his standards have dropped.

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You say the same sort of thing about Ng. My view of both is they’re just about capable of playing at this level, but they are not good Championship players by any means. The pair of them have been mainstays in a poor side that isn’t even mid-table standard. They wouldn’t get into many other teams in this division. They are both limited to put it kindly.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Something has to happen, and if it means taking some risks in order to get some confidence, then lets ****ing go for it, because what we have at the moment isn't working. We need to score goals. I don't want to pick on wintle, but i don't rate him, i don't think that he's up to this level. He is very limited.

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We have to do something, and quickly. Kaba can win headers, as can Etete. I cannot f**king believe Robinson tried a no look pen today but I think he has to play. Back 5, gets O’Dowda up the pitch, hopefully Romeo is back soon, and I’m not arsed who plays with McG and Kipre, cos neither Ng or Simpson are much kop.

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

We have to do something, and quickly. Kaba can win headers, as can Etete. I cannot f**king believe Robinson tried a no look pen today but I think he has to play. Back 5, gets O’Dowda up the pitch, hopefully Romeo is back soon, and I’m not arsed who plays with McG and Kipre, cos neither Ng or Simpson are much kop.

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Robinson could play wide midfield.

For several players to have dropped their levels over recent weeks, must partly be down to the manager and the players confidence in what he's trying to get them to do.
Now that Hudson has gone, hopefully that will return.

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

For several players to have dropped their levels over recent weeks, must partly be down to the manager and the players confidence in what he's trying to get them to do.
Now that Hudson has gone, hopefully that will return.

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I agree there’s a few that dropped their levels in recent weeks, others improved themselves today.
Wintle didn’t

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Basically saying that the players need to show some character and dig themselves out of this shit show, and i think that he is right. Forget the cliches and all that bullshit, we need a few of the players to put themselves out of their comfort zone, get themselves noticed on the pitch, to be assertive etc. Wintle is a weak link in my opinion, he never controls the tempo of a game, never splits a pass, plays within himself, he's coasting, and that's no way to be in his position on the field of play.

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If we play Ralls every week we will be relegated for sure.
He is too slow and is thinking seems a couple of seconds behind the play, which is one of the reasons he is regularly yellow carded

Wintle, Ralls and Ng might not be setting the world alight, but it absolutely baffles me that they're the ones being singled out when you've got complete wasters like Simpson, Sawyers, and Ojo in the team.

I think need Ralls for all his set pieces

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Originally Posted by jon1959

It is. Not a bounce in sight.

But I like Lamouchi from the little I have seen so far. He talks straight. He seems to know what he needs to do (and it doesn’t involve a magic wand). He appears to be a coach who is focused on attitude and improving the players in the squad. They should be better than they have been. He had little or no chance to affect what the club did in the window and he hasn’t used that as an excuse.

I’m not optimistic, but we have a chance with this manager.

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I like what little we have seen and heard from him so far too. He learned a few things from the Luton game, hence no Colwill I assume. Let's hope that he learned today that Simpson should also not be in this team.
The most important thing he needs to do now is to find someone, anyone, who can CROSS A F****NG BALL.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Robinson could play wide midfield.

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For me ....

Alsopp (Maybe Alnwick, not fussed)
NG
Kipre
McG
Bagan
Ralls
Rinhomota
O'Dowda
Etete
Robinson
Davies

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Originally Posted by FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead

Wintle, Ralls and Ng might not be setting the world alight, but it absolutely baffles me that they're the ones being singled out when you've got complete wasters like Simpson, Sawyers, and Ojo in the team.

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Hear hear

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Originally Posted by FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead

Wintle, Ralls and Ng might not be setting the world alight, but it absolutely baffles me that they're the ones being singled out when you've got complete wasters like Simpson, Sawyers, and Ojo in the team.

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Tend to agree but to be fair Simpson seems to be singled out as well.

I find the line ups confusing, I certainly wouldn’t have took of Robinson unless it’s an injury.

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Originally Posted by theclaw

I think need Ralls for all his set pieces

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Which ones are you thinking of ?

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Originally Posted by FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead

Wintle, Ralls and Ng might not be setting the world alight, but it absolutely baffles me that they're the ones being singled out when you've got complete wasters like Simpson, Sawyers, and Ojo in the team.

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Exactly.

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Originally Posted by FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead

Wintle, Ralls and Ng might not be setting the world alight, but it absolutely baffles me that they're the ones being singled out when you've got complete wasters like Simpson, Sawyers, and Ojo in the team.

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They are all shit. Maybe that's the answer.

the club should have moved for Camarasa. He can't be any worse than the aforementioned.

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Robinson could play wide midfield.

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It's worth a try. We have to get as many people on the pitch that can score as humanly possible.

Re some people's comments on Ojo. Ojo tried to create today, he worked his backside off. Sawyers is absolutely past it, though. I feel for Simpson, he really looks like a centre half playing left back.

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Originally Posted by Divine Wright

They are all shit. Maybe that's the answer.

the club should have moved for Camarasa. He can't be any worse than the aforementioned.

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Camarasa has stayed in Spain, signed for Oviedo immediately after getting "released".

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Originally Posted by DubaiDai

If we play Ralls every week we will be relegated for sure.
He is too slow and is thinking seems a couple of seconds behind the play, which is one of the reasons he is regularly yellow carded

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Ralls is streets ahead of Sawyers.

I’m surprised Rino seems surplus to requirements. I thought a new manager would make the most of his energy.

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

It's worth a try. We have to get as many people on the pitch that can score as humanly possible.

Re some people's comments on Ojo. Ojo tried to create today, he worked his backside off. Sawyers is absolutely past it, though. I feel for Simpson, he really looks like a centre half playing left back.

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I don't question his commitment, it's his ability I question.

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

I don't question his commitment, it's his ability I question.

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He's trying to score a goal, which is more than most of the others.

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

I don't question his commitment, it's his ability I question.

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It’s funny because he’s often labelled as lazy. I don’t think he is and can see why managers play him, he moves with the ball but lacking in confidence, if he could get a goal or two he could be key as could Philogene.

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Originally Posted by Woosnam

As far as I am concerned, Ralls is a liability at the moment, and I would not play him if we are looking for goals. He is too one footed, and nine times out of ten the ball goes backwards stopping any momentum. He also commits a large amount of fouls during a game, quite often ending in a booking. We need a more attacking midfielder, and I think Sang should be given a chance to show his attacking flair. With a big centre forward now on our books, we also need two fast and tricky wingers in the team, with O’Dowda and Davies the obvious choices.

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I have always like Ralls but he is not the player that he was before his last long injury lay off.

Sadly he seems to lack that yard of pace now and his game was heavily dependent on energy and high intensity. He just looks to be struggling in every game he plays now :-(

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Ralls is streets ahead of Sawyers.

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But not Rinohmota who didnt play today

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Originally Posted by FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead

Wintle, Ralls and Ng might not be setting the world alight, but it absolutely baffles me that they're the ones being singled out when you've got complete wasters like Simpson, Sawyers, and Ojo in the team.

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It's not a case of singling these players out. I think pretty much everyone accepts that Sawyers has been a huge disappointment, Simpson was a dreadful signing and Ojo is extremely frustrating.

However, you have a look at the team as a whole when attempting to assess why things have gone so badly wrong this season and, in my opinion at least, several of the side's mainstays just aren't very good by this division's standards.

City have played 30 league games this season. The players leading the appearances chart are:

Ryan Allsop - 30 appearances
Ryan Wintle - 29 appearances
Perry Ng - 28 appearances
Cedric Kipre - 27 (+1) appearances
Callum O'Dowda - 26 (+1) appearances

Of those five, I'd argue that only Kipre and O'Dowda are decent Championship players. They would get into plenty of other sides in this division, but how many other teams at this level would covet the likes of Allsop, Wintle or Ng? I know there are some contributors who rate these players for various reasons, but in my view they are well below average by Championship standards. They look distinctly limited to me. Meanwhile, I think most of us agree that Ralls is having his poorest season since arriving at the club.

Saying that doesn't mean the likes of Sawyers, Simpson and Ojo get a free pass by any means, but stating they haven't been good enough is like saying today is Sunday.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

It's not a case of singling these players out. I think pretty much everyone accepts that Sawyers has been a huge disappointment, Simpson was a dreadful signing and Ojo is extremely frustrating.

However, you have a look at the team as a whole when attempting to assess why things have gone so badly wrong this season and, in my opinion at least, several of the side's mainstays just aren't very good by this division's standards.

City have played 30 league games this season. The players leading the appearances chart are:

Ryan Allsop - 30 appearances
Ryan Wintle - 29 appearances
Perry Ng - 28 appearances
Cedric Kipre - 27 (+1) appearances
Callum O'Dowda - 26 (+1) appearances

Of those five, I'd argue that only Kipre and O'Dowda are decent Championship players. They would get into plenty of other sides in this division, but how many other teams at this level would covet the likes of Allsop, Wintle or Ng? I know there are some contributors who rate these players for various reasons, but in my view they are well below average by Championship standards. They look distinctly limited to me. Meanwhile, I think most of us agree that Ralls is having his poorest season since arriving at the club.

Saying that doesn't mean the likes of Sawyers, Simpson and Ojo get a free pass by any means, but stating they haven't been good enough is like saying today is Sunday.

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Ng and Wintle play important positions as well. Ng is the 2nd central defender, there to pick up the 2nd balls and put himself in positions to sniff out danger, kipre is the man that should contest the 1st ball. Ng isn't cutting it, go knows what people are looking at, maybe standards are low, or it''s because he gives the impression that he's some kind of footballer that kind of gets him off the hook a bit. Wintle is their to start things in midfield, act as that player who is always available, a poor mans joe Allen. He is as slow as ****, rarely has a picture in his mind, what are people watching if they think that he is doing enough?

have a good squad. They are very nice guys, but maybe too nice.
Too kind a quote . But there is truth .

Rather than say nice id add we have no bite and fear factor that would supplement your skilled team, from the likes of players like Pelts, Pato, Super Kev, Gunner, Hugill, Flint , Moza, Bamba .. need a bully up front .

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Ralls is streets ahead of Sawyers.

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Says it all

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Originally Posted by DubaiDai

But not Rinohmota who didnt play today

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Rino was one of our worst players a few weeks ago and had one good game against Leeds

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

I don't question his commitment, it's his ability I question.

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It was only his commitment that was the issue.

People need to get off Ojos back while he’s playing OK and trying

Yes he was appalling a while back but better now