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How can we get ourselves out of this desperate mess ?
We are stuck with what we have so hopefully this new manager can get things going
We have needed a lump up front for some time to replace Moore......now we might have him so play Robinson or an other up there and hopefully we can get some goals from him and the knock downs
Goalkeepers are adequate and defence is OK
It's midfield we need to see if there is anything we can juggle around . It's this area where our games will be won . A few goals , better supply to the front men .
I can't believe we can't find 4 regulars in the middle that can't put in a shift for us ?
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I feel like we just have to hope something click and someone comes into form/confidence. Someone like Ojo/Philogene getting a goal or two and some confidence would really help.
I’m surprised by the manager choices so far, I’d like to see more of Davies.
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Swap out Wintle for King pull the rug out on the regulars. Wintle is getting worse others too "undroppables" happy in their comfort zones. Play Cowill and Davies at the same time they have a understanding together you can't teach eg Liverpool away. Kaba and Etete to start. Who knows good luck SL and Sol 16 games and counting (game's in hand) .
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Relax really
I know things are shit but we need to chill out to prevent a death spiral. Set a target of finishing 18th and take every point as a step toward it
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I don't think there's much point trying to dissect the team into who should start. I don't think any combination of the players will make a big difference. We got what we have and let's hope that one of them gets hypnotized into scoring goals
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Score goals. In our last 9 league games we've not conceded more than 1 in any of them. There aren't many times that's happened in our history.
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How did the new striker get on? Any signs of promise?
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2b2bdoo
I feel like we just have to hope something click and someone comes into form/confidence. Someone like Ojo/Philogene getting a goal or two and some confidence would really help.
I’m surprised by the manager choices so far, I’d like to see more of Davies.
Ojo is finally showing something but we need him to find the net
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UNDERHILL1927
How did the new striker get on? Any signs of promise?
He can win flick ons. We looked much better with him and Etete together. We can't cross, though so it wasn't ideal. We should start him, Etete and Robinson next week.
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ToTaL ITK
I don't think there's much point trying to dissect the team into who should start. I don't think any combination of the players will make a big difference. We got what we have and let's hope that one of them gets hypnotized into scoring goals
Tony La Mesma
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Eric the Half a Bee
Score goals. In our last 9 league games we've not conceded more than 1 in any of them. There aren't many times that's happened in our history.
Defence wise things are adequate
Midfield to provide chances for the front men to score
Robinson is not suddenly a crap striker because he took a soft penalty
He's an adequate goalscorer at this level if he's given the chances
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Pedro de la Rosa
He can win flick ons. We looked much better with him and Etete together. We can't cross, though so it wasn't ideal. We should start him, Etete and Robinson next week.
it's like admitting your 7 year old can't read
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JamesWales
Relax really
I know things are shit but we need to chill out to prevent a death spiral. Set a target of finishing 18th and take every point as a step toward it
This. There were a lot of positives to take from today. Improvements in a short space of time. The manager now has a full week to work with the players and hopefully some of that will involve working on set pieces. One of the disappointing things today was the number of wasted corners but we have to remember there hasn’t been a real manager down there all season
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Defence wise things are adequate
Midfield to provide chances for the front men to score
Robinson is not suddenly a crap striker because he took a soft penalty
He's an adequate goalscorer at this level if he's given the chances
Defense wise we've had the 17th best season in our history after 30 games. That's more than adequate.
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superfeathers
This. There were a lot of positives to take from today. Improvements in a short space of time. The manager now has a full week to work with the players and hopefully some of that will involve working on set pieces. One of the disappointing things today was the number of wasted corners but we have to remember there hasn’t been a real manager down there all season
A lot of positives?
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Re: How can we get ourselves out of this desperate mess ?
We just have to concentrate on supporting our beloved team. Together.
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superfeathers
This. There were a lot of positives to take from today. Improvements in a short space of time. The manager now has a full week to work with the players and hopefully some of that will involve working on set pieces. One of the disappointing things today was the number of wasted corners but we have to remember there hasn’t been a real manager down there all season
Yes, we really peppered the Hull goal this afternoon....
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Stanmore Bluebird
We just have to concentrate on supporting our beloved team. Together.
Well that's a given isn't it
I had a text from a very loyal city fan on the bus coming back from Hull
He is convinced we are going down and the team just ain't got what it takes
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Eric the Half a Bee
Yes, we really peppered the Hull goal this afternoon....
No we didn’t create many chances but the performance was much improved. The players did put in a shift for each other. Goals will come if he can inspire confidence in them. He’s had how many days to work with them? Kaba was still packing his stuff last I heard
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Tony La Mesma
Aha!
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Undercoverinwurzelland
Aha!
Get him on the pay roll
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We’ve tried tappy tappy but the goals aren’t located on the half way line. Get 5 in the box and get the ball in there quickly and often. Maybe one will fall kindly.
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Any chance we can get Bothroyd and Chopra back with Gunnar in midfield?
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Dave Blue
We’ve tried tappy tappy but the goals aren’t located on the half way line. Get 5 in the box and get the ball in there quickly and often. Maybe one will fall kindly.
Praise The Lord
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If our defence is a strength then we should be looking at keeping six clean sheets. Hopefully we can pick up a couple of wins at home on top of that.
Reading stayed up last season with 41 points. We are currently on 29. 6 draws and 2 wins would see us end the season on 41 points.
As mentioned by a previous poster, concentrate not losing first and foremost.
A draw against Boro would not be the end of the world considering their current form.
The importance of a vociferous CCS cannot be underestimated either.
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Divine Wright
If our defence is a strength then we should be looking at keeping six clean sheets. Hopefully we can pick up a couple of wins at home on top of that.
Reading stayed up last season with 41 points. We are currently on 29. 6 draws and 2 wins would see us end the season on 41 points.
As mentioned by a previous poster, concentrate not losing first and foremost.
A draw against Boro would not be the end of the world considering their current form.
The importance of a vociferous CCS cannot be underestimated either.
Reading had 6 points deducted last season, Derby 12.
Reading would've gone down on goal difference on 47 points.
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Stanmore Bluebird
We just have to concentrate on supporting our beloved team. Together.
Yes, we need to get behind the team from the first whistle until the last one.
The away support are fantastic and long may that continue.
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If he can't put in one decent cross, there is no point in selecting him.
Was meant to be a reply to an Ojo related post. I might get the hang of this one day - perhaps when Ojo puts in a good cross. Don't hold your breath.
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John Buchanan
If he can't put in one decent cross, there is no point in selecting him.
Was meant to be a reply to an Ojo related post. I might get the hang of this one day - perhaps when Ojo puts in a good cross. Don't hold your breath.
He’s still one of our main threats (that’s what is most concerning).
The whole squad do the basics appallingly. I’ve lost count at how many times I’ve screamed, “beat the first Fcking man”. It’s a basic footballing skill.
I shouldn’t be watching a team in the Championship and thinking at the age of 43, and with pins and plates in my ankle, “I could put a better ball in the box”. It’s infuriating.
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What we can start doing is to try and win football matches, from the first kick, take some risks, stop playing a deep line in defence, which has helped us not concede but hinders our attacking options, because we always have 2 midfield players sitting in to negate the gap between the defence and forwards. At some point a team has to come out to play, not just sit in, in the hope that they don't concede and maybe pinch a goal. Our whole shape is conservative, our play is conservative, we either put the ball wide or bang it up to robinson with a non supporting midfield. I'd rather see us go for these wins and accept that mistakes will happen and gaps may be left, but it's this toe dipping shit that rankles me, it's a sure sign of a lack of belief, and other teams and managers sniff it out.
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We needed fresh blood, fresh legs this month. They didn't have to world-beaters, just an influx of 3 or 4 who would give a change of mentality on the pitch. Are we going down ? Probably. Can we stay up ? Possibly. Should we have done more to avoid it ? Definitely.
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A Quiet Monkfish
We needed fresh blood, fresh legs this month. They didn't have to world-beaters, just an influx of 3 or 4 who would give a change of mentality on the pitch. Are we going down ? Probably. Can we stay up ? Possibly. Should we have done more to avoid it ? Definitely.
We have players out there who don't fancy it, i'm not bothered if they're not good enough, that's most of us anyway. Just show some fight and honesty, i'm sure that we can all get behind that and forgive failure. Some of them aren't even putting themselves in that position.
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It was said a few days back that Graham Stack was responsible for set piece training as well as goalkeeping.
Our corners, free kicks, penalties and crosses (not dead balls, but often similar problems of movement and missing first man) have been poor most of the season.
Improve those basics, and with some height now up front, we should see things they call goals in foreign parts.
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SLUDGE FACTORY
Get him on the pay roll
Smelly Alan Fartridge
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Undercoverinwurzelland
Smelly Alan Fartridge
Are you a porn legend Glen?
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Dave Blue
We’ve tried tappy tappy but the goals aren’t located on the half way line. Get 5 in the box and get the ball in there quickly and often. Maybe one will fall kindly.
Yes, great idea to leave us defensively exposed.
Secondly, it's not the midfield passing around half way that's the problem, it's a general lack of creativity and poor striking options. No amount of whack it up there and hope for a bit of luck will change that.
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Rebuild the squad.
Hopefully, not from League One.
This squad is f*cked thanks to the "best transfer window ever"...
Hopefully we can at least stave off relegation with this best squad ever.
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Ninja
Rebuild the squad.
Hopefully, not from League One.
This squad is f*cked thanks to the "best transfer window ever"...
Hopefully we can at least stave off relegation with this best squad ever.
The “best transfer window ever” comment really is proving to be the most ridiculous thing anyone has ever said, in the history of planet earth.
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UNDERHILL1927
The “best transfer window ever” comment really is proving to be the most ridiculous thing anyone has ever said, in the history of planet earth.
Who said it?
