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Hopefully observed today.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/u...-b1062341.html
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UK to hold one minute’s silence for Ukraine today on one-year anniversary of invasion
A one-minute silence is being held across the UK at 11am to mark one year since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.
It was a held a few minutes before you posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
In fact the silence was punctuated by the clicking sound of Lom's keyboard typing his message, but he knows that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
I think he's got too much time on his hands already. We all must root for him to find a job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Martian time difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
Hopefully observed is not an instruction it's a query as to know if it was hopefully observed, see where we are going, no need to trivialise a sad event.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
I wasn't trivialising it and I wasn't criticising you as you correctly used the past tense. In fact, I didn't know about it until you posted and I missed it myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
By the way, I would implore any of you that have sympathies for the plight of Ukraine and its people to seek out local groups sending over contributions of all descriptions (including generators, medical supplies, clothing, chainsaws and a multitude of other things). Your donations would be warmly welcomed.
Zelensky has begged for the past year for foreign volunteers to travel to Ukraine to help fight the Russkies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
What's delaying you?
I'd be more than a little peed off having to drive through that.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">🤡 <a href="https://t.co/HVSsAcQmUC">pic.twitter.com/HVSsAcQmUC</a></p>— The_Real_Fly (@The_Real_Fly) <a href="https://twitter.com/The_Real_Fly/status/1628996141617500161?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 24, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
President Zelensky appeals for foreign volunteers to come to Ukraine and enlist in a newly-formed 'International Legion' to fight the Russian invasion - https://news.yahoo.com/president-zel...ycsrp_catchall
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Foreigners willing to defend Ukraine and world order as part of the International Legion of Territorial Defense of Ukraine, I invite you to contact foreign diplomatic missions of Ukraine in your respective countries. Together we defeated Hitler, and we will defeat Putin, too.</p>— Dmytro Kuleba (@DmytroKuleba) <a href="https://twitter.com/DmytroKuleba/status/1497840669066502145?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I have friends in Ukraine whose families have been in fear of their lives in the last year and from a real threat - whereas your paranoia projetcs threats involving black-eyed zombies and the like. Grow up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
Gosh, you failed to answer a simple question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
That must be a first. :hehe:
Me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
I assume Dmytro Kuleba is not thinking of the war crimes of the SS Galician Division or other Ukrainian Nazi supporters (and their modern cheer leaders) when he talks about 'together' defeating Hitler?Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
He could make his case without re-writing history and inventing heroic myths.
Yes. He somehow forgot to mention, I can't think why, their own neo-Nazi Azov Battalion, the same one Putin has cited numerous times to help justify his Special Military Operation.
I think we are supposed to believe they are nice Nazis, ones who are cuddly and haven't a trace of anti-Semitism.
SorryQuote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
I'd put planes in the air and call the little Russian fecks bluffQuote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
[QUOTE=Organ Morgan.;5396428]Yes. He somehow forgot to mention, I can't think why, their own neo-Nazi Azov Battalion, the same one Putin has cited numerous times to help justify his Special Military Operation.
I think we are supposed to believe they are nice Nazis, ones who are cuddly and haven't a trace of anti-Semitism.[/QUOTE
Well let's be fair both parties got history in persecution in the of Jews as has the most of Europe..
I do wonder after this Ukraine re arms itself and turns into a European type of Israel, always under threat from its neighbours, Donbas becomes Gaza, with militia attacks on its borders and discrete tit for tat killings.
[QUOTE=life on mars;5396482]It's all a show for us plebs. Putin's got more tucked away than our Vinnie. Here's a repost of mine from the other day. Since then we have witnessed the farce of 'brave' Biden walking Kiev streets with air raid sirens blaring when it was arranged with Putin that there'd be no bombing while he was there. Biden in the weeks and months before had claimed Russia had committed crimes against humanity there and Putin was an ogre, etc, who could never be trusted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
Then Biden had assurances he'd be safe from the same bloodthirsty dictator's rockets and said "rightio, that's good enough for me."
It's bullshit, isn't it?
Taking the figures in the opening post as accurate, many thousands of expendable Ukrainian and Russian nobodies have perished in the conflict while Putin, Zelensky and their political allies remain hale and hearty.
The fisticuffs thus far has been great business for arms manufacturers who'll make bank replacing what's been destroyed. Funeral directors, among others, have also been rubbing their hands with glee. When it's all done, those connected people from both sides will make a bundle from receiving bulging brown envelopes from those who will get the contracts for rebuilding work. And the none the wiser taxpayers of those countries, as always, will indirectly pay all the bills via extra taxation.
It's a great grift.
This is a book War is a Racket written decades ago by one of the USA's most decorated soldiers, Major General Smedley Butler, who came to realise how the con works. It's a very short read too in which he details who gets to profit from the misery of others.
Here's the first three paragraphs of it:-
- WAR is a racket. It always has been.
It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.
A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes. -
War is a Racket - https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.pdf
No need. I can see that my post was ambiguous.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Zelensky was a comedian before receiving a presidential makeover.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="qme" dir="ltr"> <a href="https://t.co/q0qYlQSBJM">pic.twitter.com/q0qYlQSBJM</a></p>— Rohit Rawal (@RohiRa007) <a href="https://twitter.com/RohiRa007/status/1629909561552556034?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
[QUOTE=Organ Morgan.;5396489]It looks like Smedley Butler knew what he was on about in his book War is a Racket.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Not much has changed since 1935 when he wrote it.
Wall Street has its eyes set on Ukraine
Wall Street really wants to invest in Ukraine, and some of the top players are doing more than sniffing around at the prospects.
The world’s largest money-management firm BlackRock continues to hold high-level meetings with the government, including President Volodymyr Zelensky. JPMorgan recently had bankers on the ground scoping the situation as they dodged Russian missiles, I am told.
The country is ripe for massive private US investment to rebuild infrastructure destroyed in its conflict with Vladimir Putin. Zelensky is a rock star in the American *media; the country is valiantly fighting off a foreign invader. The people are educated and resilient, which means returns could be as good there as any place on the planet. Banker talk has a private investment fund at between $20 billion and $100 billion at some point in the future.
So what’s stopping the private money from coming in now? A war that shows no signs of ending anytime soon. Plus, for all of Zelensky’s obvious talents as a leader, he still hasn’t demonstrated an understanding — or possibly a willingness — to fight corruption on the scale necessary to make investors comfortable, bankers tell me.
The meetings between some of Wall Street’s top executives (think Jamie Dimon of JPMorgan and Larry Fink of BlackRock) and Ukraine officials over the past month didn’t garner the same *attention as President Biden’s surprise visit last week. The discussions have been going down mostly in private and without much fanfare when they conclude.
But they are revealing. The perilous nature of our continued engagement with this country doesn’t just involve a possible nuclear war with Russia but also an economic sinkhole if we’re not careful.
More - - https://nypost.com/2023/02/25/wall-s...ng-in-ukraine/
Ukraine is literally the descendant of Russia it’s like if America went to war with Canada and Mexico or Sweden with Denmark.I don’t support either side and want the killing to stop , but it’s a very tricky geopolitical situation.
Why is Ukraine a descendent of Russia? Kiev/Kyiv was established as one of the two major cities of the Rus, a people who emanated from Scandinavia.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Ukraine fell to the Russian Empire under the reign of Catherine the Great in 1793
The right-bank Ukraine was annexed by Russia in the Second Partition of Poland.
It was Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth for an age 1569–1795 .
You can see why Poland dislikes Russia as its behaviour in that region is dreadful .
Cossacks ( is “adventurer” or “free man”) are not Russian they were Slavic Orthodox Christian people.
Russia's goal is simply about invading & controling ......
Is "America" a descendent of Mexico or is Mexico a descendant of "America" in this hypothesis?Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Think they are descendants of Eastern Slavic and very much driven by religionQuote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Ukraine was the center of the first eastern Slavic state, Kyivan Rus’, which during the 10th and 11th centuries was the largest and most powerful state in Europe. But it was weakened by internal quarrels and Mongol invasions. Various parts of what’s now Ukraine have at times been claimed by Russia, Poland, the Austrian Empire, Hungary, Romania and Czechoslovakia. Present boundaries were set in 1954, with the transfer of Crimea from the Soviet Union to Ukraine. Ukraine finally became independent in 1991. (In 2014, Crimea was illegally annexed by Russia.)
Are we Germans now , if yes we have won the world cup more than once ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Tito Fuente
Are Russians not considered to be predominantly Slavic?Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Is Orthodox Christianity not the predominant religion in Russia?
¿Qué?Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Cut and paste fail.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Wales have never won the world cup, what are you on about?Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Bad schooling, unlike the fortunate onesQuote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
You think I could make that up , you are a silly billy :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Flange, blotting paper, wibble, meh.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
“My schoooool, my schoooool, how gravely she stands…”Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
What I posted was in reference to post war not centuries upon centuries ago , perhaps I should have been more clear ( I thought it was obvious ) If took your stance in respect of time stamping then half world could be remapped. Thanks for the copy and paste though.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
As it's a fusion of gobbledook and nonsense, I'm sure you could make it up. And usually do.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
The first sentence I put in bold is meaningless. The second is just wrong - Crimea was part of the Soviet Union before 1954, and after! It was transferred from the Russian Soviet Republic to the Ukrainian Soviet Republic.
The transfer of Crimea to Ukraine by the Supreme Soviet Presidium was because it was geographically, economically and culturally more aligned to Ukraine than Russia - after the expulsion of the collaborationist Tatars. That is a pretty strong Soviet era judgement that undermines the case made by Putin's Russia for annexation just 60 years later.
Ukrainian people have more in common with Polish, Croatian, Slovakian people than Russian people do they not ?
Ukrainian and Polish people had a big mining tradition which is why South Wales has such a relatively large Polish and Ukranian community , especially from immigration to the coalfields
Thus it would seem bizarre to say Ukraine is very much like Russia
Polish and Ukranian is very close , my Polish friends can easily understand Ukranian , they can't understand Russian