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Re: Straight from the horse's mouth - "Brexit has failed".
One positive. I was in Spain 2 weeks ago and for the first time ever after I got through passport control my case was there waiting for me on a non moving belt.
Nothing to do with the extra time it took to get through passport control of course.
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Prior to the vote, none of Brexit's main political protagonists were either willing or able to clearly articulate the version of Brexit they favoured.Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
No surprise then when opportunist demagogues like Farage now argue that Brexit could still be great but unfortunately it was and is in the hands of incompetents who are failing to deliver the sunny uplands in their true vision.
So along the way you get Lord Frost, the guy who negotiated the "oven ready" deal resigning because of the deal he negotiated, Rees-Mogg wailing from the belfry that his batshit crazy idea to abolish 4000 pieces of legislation by year end regardless of the impact hit the rocks on first contact with reality and Kwarteng's Brexit enabled deregulatory trickle down budget spooking the markets and costing the UK billions in the process. The rump of the ERG sit on the touchline taking potshots at any sane attempts like the Northern Ireland protocol to temper the damage this poor deal has introduced.
What's that old adage, in the end all revolutions devour their own children?
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My wife travels on an Irish passport and still takes pleasure in trying to find a spot where she can wave at me standing in the non-EU queue after she's sailed through.Originally posted by Hilts View PostOne positive. I was in Spain 2 weeks ago and for the first time ever after I got through passport control my case was there waiting for me on a non moving belt.
Nothing to do with the extra time it took to get through passport control of course.
An extra 10 minute wait (sometimes more) isn't the end of the world, but just one small manifestation of the pointlessness and stupidity of the whole project.
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I didnt know Farage was in charge of making Brexit happen ?, he wanted out of the EU. He didnt or never had the power of being able to set the direction or policies of post Brexit Britain.Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
For that you can blame any number of politicians and bureaucrats. Theresa May tried to make it not happen, Frost didnt do a great job either. Barnier negotiated for his side and tried to obfuscate, the Irish PM threatened all sorts re the Irish border issue.
There seemed to be a collective will to make it not happen. All Farage did was argue to leave - he didnt have a political mandate to run the UK Govt etc he isnt an MP. So not really sure of your point.
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Whose job was it to make it work ? , Starmer was Shadow Brexit Minister (he had no plan either).Originally posted by Hilts View PostFarage and his followers are total planks. Its not working so its the politicians fault. Everyone bar the staunch brexiteers.🤣🤣🤣
It was the UK Govt's job to 'make it happen' and up until it seems they havent made a good fist of it. Maybe Labour could have done better or the Lib Dems (whose policy was to campaign to go back in). Labour policy was to put it to a second vote and campaign to re join.
So there you have it - above were the options post Brexit. Go back in - is like going back to your ex wife and seeing how well it'll work out a second time.....
The bed was made - UK Gov choose not to make it even though they had to sleep in it - to coin a phrase
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I think going back in is more like going back to your ex wife because you realise she's the best out there.Originally posted by pipster View PostWhose job was it to make it work ? , Starmer was Shadow Brexit Minister (he had no plan either).
It was the UK Govt's job to 'make it happen' and up until it seems they havent made a good fist of it. Maybe Labour could have done better or the Lib Dems (whose policy was to campaign to go back in). Labour policy was to put it to a second vote and campaign to re join.
So there you have it - above were the options post Brexit. Go back in - is like going back to your ex wife and seeing how well it'll work out a second time.....
The bed was made - UK Gov choose not to make it even though they had to sleep in it - to coin a phrase
You've tested the water, died your hair, got contact lenses, lost about 3 stone, bought a whole new wardrobe of clothes way too young for you and maxed out your credit card, shagged everything that moves, embarrassed yourself because you can't get it up any more and come to the conclusion there's only slags and money grabbers out there after all.
Midlife crisis can be a bummer. Let's hope the old gal is forgiving of your lapse of judgement.
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No, I’ll blame Farage thanks.Originally posted by pipster View PostI didnt know Farage was in charge of making Brexit happen ?, he wanted out of the EU. He didnt or never had the power of being able to set the direction or policies of post Brexit Britain.
For that you can blame any number of politicians and bureaucrats. Theresa May tried to make it not happen, Frost didnt do a great job either. Barnier negotiated for his side and tried to obfuscate, the Irish PM threatened all sorts re the Irish border issue.
There seemed to be a collective will to make it not happen. All Farage did was argue to leave - he didnt have a political mandate to run the UK Govt etc he isnt an MP. So not really sure of your point.
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I like the analogy, however in reality going back to the old bird - just gives her more leverage over you. So if it were me - I'd wish the old gal all the best, lets stay in touch and on a friendly basis, maybe even share a social glass of wine. But after that - I'd rather either be on my own.Originally posted by Dorcus View PostI think going back in is more like going back to your ex wife because you realise she's the best out there.
You've tested the water, died your hair, got contact lenses, lost about 3 stone, bought a whole new wardrobe of clothes way too young for you and maxed out your credit card, shagged everything that moves, embarrassed yourself because you can't get it up any more and come to the conclusion there's only slags and money grabbers out there after all.
Midlife crisis can be a bummer. Let's hope the old gal is forgiving of your lapse of judgement.
Of course if being pu ssy whipped is your thing and having the old nag like a stone around your neck then crack on and crawl back up the garden path begging for forgiveness - which the old bint is never going to give you :(
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I'm sure there's an important message here from some sort of higher level of intelligence.Originally posted by Wales-Bales View PostThings that people want can fail, and things the people don't want can be successfully implemented. Welcome to the technocratic future.
Concentrate, people!
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You can start with the unelected PM who is following an entirely different agenda to what was in the manifesto way back when. Boris did his bit before jumping ship, and we will soon have a handover to Starmer. Unfortunately, people like you will be none the wiser. You talk a good game, but your tactical knowledge is terribleOriginally posted by Swiss Peter View PostI'm sure there's an important message here from some sort of higher level of intelligence.
Concentrate, people!
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