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Did she .
Didn't know .
Didn't live there ??
Neighbours think differently?
Tax dodge ? Or Mistake ?
Sir Kier didn't seem convinced last night in his interview.
Labour MP wrong surely not.
This is Tory territory.
More fun to follow.
Bring back Jezzie.
Safe to say I've always disliked the woman and she does damage to the party . Get rid put Yvette Cooper in go full on Blair and victory is yours
Blair is too left wing for this bunch of Thatcherites.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Non story
Your normal crap as ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
No story ?????????
Crap ???????
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-b1148139.html
Justice must be served
Not really. I suspect this one has further to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
The problem is she has been so zealous in criticising others that no one is minded to cut her slack, esp if it's related to tax dodging
I don't care wether she's done everything by the book
The fact that she's bought a council house yet is a member of a party that rightly in my view criticises that policy for its negative effect on uk housing means she's full of crap and devoid of any true principles of fairness and integrity
She's fake
Heard her being interviewed on Radio 4 this morning. She is not a very convincing person all round.
Even if it turns out she has wrongfully avoided tax, it pales into insignificance compared to what the Tories get up to, who are the champions of sleaze.
🤣. You must be on the payroll?Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
She bought her council house when she was a single mother of a son aged 9 and whilst working as a careworker in 2007. She didn’t make the rules on house buying and selling. Where was she supposed to live?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I have no idea if she is guilty of tax evasion or if she lied about where she lived. If she does have something to answer for then she will be charged accordingly.
Fits in well in politics thenQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I couldn't care lessQuote:
Originally Posted by ninian opinian
By buying a council house she's part of the problem
She was given a council house because she was in housing need
She repayed the kindness shown to her by buying the house and depriving other vulnerable people in the future of having a place to live .....because it became hers ....through luck .....
She then sold it
She's a hypocrite because she has often criticised conservative housing policy yet benefitted from it
If you are defending her then it's a waste of time talking to me as as far as I am concerned she is full of crap
Not going away police back interested .
Will Sir Kier back her or do that ( I didn't notice Angela at the Durham curry night )..
David the savour of all things Lammy says in her defence :
From Spectator:
Lammy’s response bordered on the shameless, explicitly stating that Labour shouldn’t be held to that same standard, because they are not yet the party of government. He told Phillips: ‘Look, I think there’s a different arrangement and expectation for the Prime Minister than there is in this context – we’re not yet in government.’
That's a guilt me lord comment.
Daily Mail Cartoon by any chance ?Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
I can't stand the woman
Any comments on your Tory mate, the dick picks and him handing out MP’s numbers after he was compromised?Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Ange has been taken out of a lot of future publications as she is slowly being airbrushed out of existence , yes there ae awful Tories are there are Labour folk , her troubles is is the hypocrisy of shouting at other folk to show there tax returns .
As for any Tory showing his dick they should go be taken down and prosecuted sadly he would be in there with many Labour male MP 's whose behavior's are beyond the pale ( see NEC report on sexual harassment in the party, antisemitism , female abuse .
Lets be honest the Labour folk sometimes get a better deal as they can pretend to hide behind the caring socialists inclusivity for all banner .
Anyone remember the Caerphilly Labour MP mucking around in the parks of London ???
Labour MP Keith Vaz suspended for offering to buy drugs for sex workers ,failing to cooperate with an investigation ??
How many does one need to hear about ??
When parties are in power your MP 's get exposed in the media , so lets wait as we near the election we will find more and more nasty behavior's and traits that mirrors the Tories or anyone else who has power , money influence they soon forget their humble roots .
Wragg is tosser by the way, no mate of mine does not represent my way of life or how my mum brought me as , oh by the way Angela is not a nice woman if one digs deep enough , socialists have been conned , Kier has much better standards sadly he has to be pander to the left of the party , who are not that nice , in some ways no better than the right of the Tories .
Don’t you know there’s a war on?Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
yes ,so bring in Blair , Maddy Alastair Campbell,Cooper ,Balls ,Brown , oh hang on there in the party backrooms now plotting the next war , and down fall of the left ,the secret Tories that lay within the party are back and functioning very wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave Blue
:hehe: :hehe: :hehe:
She's not chuckling .Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
She maybe chucking up.
Her profile is slipping .
She may have to hand back her I Pods , claimed for via public purse expenses ( yep we pay for those )
I'm not a fan of her behaviour here as I mentioned in the other thread but it feels like the mud slinging has lost his effect. Stories like this would have cut through previously and just hasn't, bit like the 14 day 28 page spread in the right wing press about Keir having a curry, it didn't really move the dial at all.
My opinion is this
Anyone like Angela Rayner who bangs the drum about the Tories yet buys her council house then sells it .....thus depriving another young family in housing need from getting one .....is a complete hypocrite
It's like complaining about the privatisation of everything under Thatcher whilst having shares in BT , British Gas and several water companies
I hope she sinks
Under Police Investigation now.
That process should be allowed to conclude, but when Bozza was under investigation she suggested he should resign.
You are right folk have had enough nothing sticks , still think that event in Durham cut accross the law , was not a work event, folk were drinking / partying , and out of kilter with the law , perhaps the elected Labour police commissioner was in the room with Angela and Sir Kier had knowledge he was on safe ground .. hence his boldness ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
Lets be honest if that cury was a a Tory event the outcome would have been diffrencet..
Its called hypocrisy and esske through politics ..
What will stick is the fact Angela is rich and feels she can employ tax evasion whilst stating she is at one with the working class , she is a lucky bunny who got a ride on a union ticket , was a gobby union person , married a union leader, got even more gobby , someone then tapped on the shoulder and said hey be a Labour MP , elected by slagging folk off calling out fat , greedy tax evading Tories , look at us us poor single mums we have been destroyed by the Tories , its all their fault I had so many homes , ""tax is ard for us init "" lol ..
Not a nice lady , more to come maybe in book form ?
I don't think most of us would require legal advice to help us declare which house was our main residence would we, assuming we had more than one of course!
Usually - if they are smart enough politicians leave enough wriggle room to excuse their way out of a situation. Never confirm absolutely, employ an accountant to blame etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
However in Angela's case she is a bit thick and seemingly hasn't done this. There are social media posts and images that totally contradict her version of events. And this time the usual response of shouting and calling someone you disagree with 'scum' isn't going to work.
On top of all is - she used Thatcher's right to buy idea - to purchase the house. Something which I believe she has actively campaigned against, no different to Dianne Abbott opposing private education - until she sent her (convict) son to one.
At the moment Angie is being left to wither on the vine of her socialist 'morals'. There is one thing we have seen she isn't - and that is a socialist. Somebody somewhere has a lot of info on her - and is releasing it bit by bit. And every time she has to dis prove that allegation - which she does - and then more info is released that proves otherwise.
O a personal level for her - it must be horrible - but nothing she hasn't dished out - so maybe a lesson will be learned ?
Just watched the BBC news on this story. It's unbelievable how differently they report it versus Tory allegations. I can't quite believe it 😂
Is that the BBC whose 2 heads recently were an ex Conservative party member and donor to the party ?Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
And who previous political editor was the tory voting nick Robinson?
I still can't quite believe you are still pedalling this cobblers
The BBC was right up the government's arse during the miners strike
It tends to sway and always has
More general rhetoric from you. Clearly didn't watch it!Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
It's a blessing you didn't mention Thatcher and something from the 70s I guess!
You are a biased tory boyQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
It's laughable that you think any of us believe anything otherwise
You must think we have come down in the last shower of rain ☔
Do you believe what you type ? because if you do you are only kidding yourself
You talk about bias but in all the years this site has been going you are the most one eyed tory there has been
You pretend to be nuanced but it's bollocks
You vote Tory, you defend the tories and always will
Tell me you know we have all sussed you out ?
It's obvious even to you , isn't it ?
Do you know anyone that works for the bbc? Maybe ask them what the general consensus is re left or right
You talking to me ?Quote:
Originally Posted by pipster
Good job you and Mr Wales have GB News to rely on then isnt it - for the time being.
If Angela Raynor has done anything wrong, she should go, but there’s an awful lot of double standards involved in the way some expect Labour and Retort MPs to behave - this would have been small beer and forgotten about it if it was a Conservative involved.
Nadeem Sahawi , tory boyQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
He managed to dodge a few shots over several million owed to HMRC
It's a lot more than miss rayner has allegedly trousered
You didn't see the story did you? Which is why you are mentioning GB news for some weird reflective reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
There is nothing wrong with wanting the BBC to report things properly and factually. I watch the news every day pretty much and have never mentioned it before, so perhaps it is valid to criticise last nights story?
There is also nothing wrong in holding a prominent politician to account, is there? You spend a lot of your free time doing it, although curiously only when it happens to be from a party you don't vote for. What a hero!
The desperation by the Tory’s is absolutely delightful. They’re terrified. If this is the best they’ve got then, bring it on. Smoke and mirrors to take the stories away from dirty Wragg and his dirty mates.
This whole Angela Rayner issue is simple. If found guilty of breaking the law she should either walk or get binned.
Some on here said the same about Boris Johnson.
Some on here said that Johnson actually breaking the law was not really an issue and the general public weren't that interested whether he did or not. These people are now frothing at the mouth about Rayner.