Dark Clouds Gathering over America?

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Isaiah 35:7 - "Hot sands will become a cool oasis, thirsty ground a splashing fountain."

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Not a bad translation in fairness - many other translations put it as "The burning sand will become a pool, the thirsty ground bubbling springs".

It's interesting to note that Israel with cutting edge technology have recently turned their land which is 60% desert into some of the most productive land anywhere on earth - Israel's Water Miracle.

You could call it a Champagne Supernova :sherlock:

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

Not a bad translation in fairness - many other translations put it as "The burning sand will become a pool, the thirsty ground bubbling springs".

It's interesting to note that Israel with cutting edge technology have recently turned their land which is 60% desert into some of the most productive land anywhere on earth - Israel's Water Miracle.

You could call it a Champagne Supernova :sherlock:

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Makes a nice change from using cutting edge technology to turn other people's land into a graveyard I suppose

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Makes a nice change from using cutting edge technology to turn other people's land into a graveyard I suppose

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Yes it does. Did you ever try lobbing missiles into your neighbours garden and/ or violently attacking him and his visitors during a BBQ and getting a pleasant response?

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

Yes it does. Did you ever try lobbing missiles into your neighbours garden and/ or violently attacking him and his visitors during a BBQ and getting a pleasant response?

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I would have put money on you believing history (the world) began on 23 October 4004 BCE in best Bishop Ussher tradition.

It is a surprise to learn it actually began on 7 October 2023 CE.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

I would have put money on you believing history (the world) began on 23 October 4004 BCE in best Bishop Ussher tradition.

It is a surprise to learn it actually began on 7 October 2023 CE.

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Very little you say surprises me, you consistently preach from the white, green, black & red of your chosen economy.
I hope you don't get a little horse doing so.

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

Yes it does. Did you ever try lobbing missiles into your neighbours garden and/ or violently attacking him and his visitors during a BBQ and getting a pleasant response?

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No but if I did, it would probably be frowned upon if he burnt the entire street to the ground as retaliation

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

Very little you say surprises me, you consistently preach from the white, green, black & red of your chosen economy.
I hope you don't get a little horse doing so.

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:hehe:

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

Very little you say surprises me, you consistently preach from the white, green, black & red of your chosen economy.
I hope you don't get a little horse doing so.

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Wibble?

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Originally Posted by delmbox

No but if I did, it would probably be frowned upon if he burnt the entire street to the ground as retaliation

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Maybe so, but what about leaning over the fence and handing him an ice cold bottle of beer instead?

Just a thought.

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Makes a nice change from using cutting edge technology to turn other people's land into a graveyard I suppose

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What on Earth has "turning unproductive land into productive land" got to do with Ethics? You're now starting to turn your God into a third rate deity

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

Maybe so, but what about leaning over the fence and handing him an ice cold bottle of beer instead?

Just a thought.

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Or maybe a bacon sandwich

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Or maybe a bacon sandwich

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Indeed :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

What on Earth has "turning unproductive land into productive land" got to do with Ethics? You're now starting to turn your God into a third rate deity

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Well it's one of the many things He claimed He would do when Israel was gathered home from the far reaches of the planet:-

Isaiah 35v1: "Even the wilderness and desert will be glad in those days. The wasteland will rejoice and blossom with spring crocuses".

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

Maybe so, but what about leaning over the fence and handing him an ice cold bottle of beer instead?

Just a thought.

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you've lost me, can you drop the analogy and explain this comment in Israel/Palestine terms?

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

Well it's one of the many things He claimed He would do when Israel was gathered home from the far reaches of the planet:-

Isaiah 35v1: "Even the wilderness and desert will be glad in those days. The wasteland will rejoice and blossom with spring crocuses".

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Palestine didn't rejoice and blossom though did it? I'm not so sure about the crocuses but I wonder if there was a textual error and "crocodiles" was meant.

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Palestine didn't rejoice and blossom though did it? I'm not so sure about the crocuses but I wonder if there was a textual error and "crocodiles" was meant.

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Israel IS blossoming, despite the fact that in the main "Israel is an arid land, upwards of 60 percent desert".

In Deuteronomy 8:8, God calls Israel “a land of wheat and barley, of vines and fig trees and pomegranates, a land of olive trees and honey.” The olive tree, not surprisingly, is Israel’s national tree. With 2,600 native species of plants, Israel blooms profusely—with dramatic roses, lilies, tulips, carnations, iris, and gladiolas. And the small beautiful national flower, the anemone—also called the windflower—waves and dances on hillsides and in gardens - full article.

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

Israel IS blossoming, despite the fact that in the main "Israel is an arid land, upwards of 60 percent desert".

In Deuteronomy 8:8, God calls Israel “a land of wheat and barley, of vines and fig trees and pomegranates, a land of olive trees and honey.” The olive tree, not surprisingly, is Israel’s national tree. With 2,600 native species of plants, Israel blooms profusely—with dramatic roses, lilies, tulips, carnations, iris, and gladiolas. And the small beautiful national flower, the anemone—also called the windflower—waves and dances on hillsides and in gardens - full article.

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It's a land full of destructive hate now.

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

Israel IS blossoming, despite the fact that in the main "Israel is an arid land, upwards of 60 percent desert".

In Deuteronomy 8:8, God calls Israel “a land of wheat and barley, of vines and fig trees and pomegranates, a land of olive trees and honey.” The olive tree, not surprisingly, is Israel’s national tree. With 2,600 native species of plants, Israel blooms profusely—with dramatic roses, lilies, tulips, carnations, iris, and gladiolas. And the small beautiful national flower, the anemone—also called the windflower—waves and dances on hillsides and in gardens - full article.

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Windflower is that they call the bombs droped on Gaza and Jordan.

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

It's a land full of destructive hate now.

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No more than the people of Iran could be called hateful to Jews because of the actions of their own government.
Many people in Iran love the Jewish people, so your statement is simply made from assumptions.

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

No more than the people of Iran could be called hateful to Jews because of the actions of their own government.
Many people in Iran love the Jewish people, so your statement is simply made from assumptions.

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You are confusing the Jewish people with the Israeli Government

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

You are confusing the Jewish people with the Israeli Government

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The verse I quoted above - “a land of wheat and barley, of vines and fig trees and pomegranates, a land of olive trees and honey.” is NOT about the government either, so why are you using those words to attack the leaders in Israel?

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

The verse I quoted above - “a land of wheat and barley, of vines and fig trees and pomegranates, a land of olive trees and honey.” is NOT about the government either, so why are you using those words to attack the leaders in Israel?

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I'm not using those words to attack anyone or anything. They are meaningless pronouncements without any consequence. Also, I think the murderous leaders in Israel have committed more than sufficient crimes to warrant criticism by any ethical being.

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

Maybe so, but what about leaning over the fence and handing him an ice cold bottle of beer instead?

Just a thought.

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Is my neighbour a Muslim in this scenario where I’m passing him beer and bacon sarnies over the fence?

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Originally Posted by Canton Kev

Is my neighbour a Muslim in this scenario where I’m passing him beer and bacon sarnies over the fence?

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:hehe::thumbup:

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

Israel IS blossoming, despite the fact that in the main "Israel is an arid land, upwards of 60 percent desert".

In Deuteronomy 8:8, God calls Israel “a land of wheat and barley, of vines and fig trees and pomegranates, a land of olive trees and honey.” The olive tree, not surprisingly, is Israel’s national tree. With 2,600 native species of plants, Israel blooms profusely—with dramatic roses, lilies, tulips, carnations, iris, and gladiolas. And the small beautiful national flower, the anemone—also called the windflower—waves and dances on hillsides and in gardens - full article.

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Aren't you the fruit loop who claims to eschew organized religion? You seem to be quoting from extremely dubious sections of their fairy stories book quite liberally. Are you confused?