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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
I haven't claimed to. lol
But you claimed you would be sacked for doing the same thing which implies you know what they did that was sackable.
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
Not unusual for people who are alive.
😂
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Originally Posted by
trampie09
But you claimed you would be sacked for doing the same thing which implies you know what they did that was sackable.
Oh, I see! You're talking about me, not them!
Yes, I would indeed have been sacked for acting like a massive racist twat. No doubt about that.
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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
Oh, I see! You're talking about me, not them!
Yes, I would indeed have been sacked for acting like a massive racist twat. No doubt about that.
My guess is they have done other stuff and not just the plane thing.
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
I haven't seen the survey and I wouldn't generally go looking for it. I said I have never seen it. you can gob off all you like and get on your pseudo-political high horse but it won't alter the fact. I have never seen it!! what is difficult to grasp about that sludge?
Here is my advice . Go to the link and read it . It clearly shows that in south wales you are 6 times more likely to be stopped if you are black . You say you have never seen it happen . That's completely irrelevant .
It happens .....black people in south wales get stopped in south wales and they are 6 times more likely to get stopped than you .
End of story
You havnt seen it ? Well I never saw adolf hitler but I knew the fecker existed .....it doesnt matter two tits that you or I have never seen a black man stopped ......are you saying because you and your mates have not seen the police stop a black man in cardiff then it follows that it never happens ?
You seem to be suggesting that because you as a white bloke have not seen policexstops on innocent black people that everything's ok , it's not a problem
It's not an issue for you because you are not the person being stopped
What's a pseudo political high horse , it sounds a fascinating creature ?
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Originally Posted by
trampie09
My guess is they have done other stuff and not just the plane thing.
I am putting my head on the block here but I reckon they are racist idiots
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Originally Posted by
trampie09
My guess is they have done other stuff and not just the plane thing.
You are strong on guessing, weak on actual facts. But then most WUMs are.
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Originally Posted by
trampie09
My guess is they have done other stuff and not just the plane thing.
5 seconds of Googling yields the following: https://www.hr-24.co.uk/articles/bri...nto-disrepute/
All explained there for you, my son.
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Originally Posted by
Heisenberg
You have to be white for this to apply. A racial profile. You cannot call another race gammon by this definition. It’s obviously racist.
You have to be male for this to apply. A gender profile. You cannot call another gender gammon by this definition. It’s obviously sexist.
You have to be middle-aged for this to apply. An age profile. You cannot call another generation gammon by this definition. It’s obviously ageist.
You have to be right-wing for this to apply. A political profile. You cannot call someone of a different political leaning gammon by this definition. It’s obviously discrimination against political beliefs
Yeah?
Yes.
It’s specific.
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Here is my advice . Go to the link and read it . It clearly shows that in south wales you are 6 times more likely to be stopped if you are black . You say you have never seen it happen . That's completely irrelevant .
It happens .....black people in south wales get stopped in south wales and they are 6 times more likely to get stopped than you .
End of story
You havnt seen it ? Well I never saw adolf hitler but I knew the fecker existed .....it doesnt matter two tits that you or I have never seen a black man stopped ......are you saying because you and your mates have not seen the police stop a black man in cardiff then it follows that it never happens ?
You seem to be suggesting that because you as a white bloke have not seen policexstops on innocent black people that everything's ok , it's not a problem
It's not an issue for you because you are not the person being stopped
What's a pseudo political high horse , it sounds a fascinating creature ?
In America I think I read that a certain group make up 12% or 13% of the population but commit 52% of the homicides.
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Originally Posted by
trampie09
You need to know what he said to her before the tape, it's not disputed and it's frightening .
Background is also telling when you check out him, his sister and his father.
You probably watch shit like Qanon don't you.
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Yes.
It’s specific.
It's sexist is what it is... And I will not stand for it!
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Originally Posted by
dembethewarrior
You probably watch shit like Qanon don't you.
Never heard of it.
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Originally Posted by
trampie09
In America I think I read that a certain group make up 12% or 13% of the population but commit 52% of the homicides.
Ummm... Black people make up 52% of murder victims in America, trampie.
I hope know the difference between committing a murder and being murdered.
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Originally Posted by
Heisenberg
Ummm... Black people make up 52% of murder victims in America, trampie.
I hope know the difference between committing a murder and being murdered.
Just for a bit of balance.
Do you have the percentage of Black on Black homicides?
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Originally Posted by
Wash DC Blue
Just for a bit of balance.
Do you have the percentage of Black on Black homicides?
I'd love to know why you think that would be "for a bit of balance"... It almost sounds a bit... I don't know.
Anyway... I've got the figures for you.
89% black on black murders from the same source as the previous figures (The National Center for the Victims.of Crime).
And "for a bit of balance": 81% white on white murders.
I hope the equilibrium is back in order for you now.
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Originally Posted by
Heisenberg
I'd love to know why you think that would be "for a bit of balance"... It almost sounds a bit... I don't know.
Anyway... I've got the figures for you.
89% black on black murders from the same source as the previous figures (The National Center for the Victims.of Crime).
And "for a bit of balance": 81% white on white murders.
I hope the equilibrium is back in order for you now.
Inner ear infection I think from listening to current events.
I genuinely don’t do statistics very well.
(To slightly misquote a Scottish Bloke called Andrew Lang) “He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lampposts—for support rather than illumination.”
There are though without doubt factors from these numbers that need to be addressed.
If it is something that should concern the current movement.
A lot say no, I think it should.
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Originally Posted by
trampie09
My guess is they have done other stuff and not just the plane thing.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...red-protection
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Originally Posted by
trampie09
In America I think I read that a certain group make up 12% or 13% of the population but commit 52% of the homicides.
So we stop this group because they commit murders ?
That's racial profiling isnt it ?
Because the vast vast majority of this group dont kill people
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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
Wash DC Blue
Inner ear infection I think from listening to current events.
I genuinely don’t do statistics very well.
(To slightly misquote a Scottish Bloke called Andrew Lang) “He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lampposts—for support rather than illumination.”
There are though without doubt factors from these numbers that need to be addressed.
If it is something that should concern the current movement.
A lot say no, I think it should.
From those figures, the only factor that I can see is that homicide tends to be intra-racial.
It's been pointed out dozens of times on here alone that black on black murder isn't the main issue for BLM -which is another stick to beat them with... But when shown the figures about white on white murders, they seem to completely ignore them. As we've just seen.
Can't BLM just focus on one issue? The more complicated the issue becomes, the blurrier the message gets and a lot will get lost in their fight.
It's crazy how many different arguments people have against BLM. Imagine slagging off the annual Race For Life (cancer charity fundraiser) because it doesn't raise money for Alzheimers or children in poverty.
Can't we just allow BLM to have a single, poignant message (ending racism and violence against the black community) without needing them to focus on solving the rest of the f**ked up shit that goes on in the world too?
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...es-online.html
Some charming comments from this lovely pair.
"I'm not a racist," claims Jake.
He seems to believe everybody else is as stupid as he is.
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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
Heisenberg
From those figures, the only factor that I can see is that homicide tends to be intra-racial.
It's been pointed out dozens of times on here alone that black on black murder isn't the main issue for BLM -which is another stick to beat them with... But when shown the figures about white on white murders, they seem to completely ignore them. As we've just seen.
Can't BLM just focus on one issue? The more complicated the issue becomes, the blurrier the message gets and a lot will get lost in their fight.
It's crazy how many different arguments people have against BLM. Imagine slagging off the annual Race For Life (cancer charity fundraiser) because it doesn't raise money for Alzheimers or children in poverty.
Can't we just allow BLM to have a single, poignant message (ending racism and violence against the black community) without needing them to focus on solving the rest of the f**ked up shit that goes on in the world too?
It’s an interesting point that you make.
I have posted on here numerous times my support for Black Lives.
I’ve also stated for want of a better word my “confusion” I guess on how to untangle the undoubted systematic racism in America (which no matter how much people try to equate the two) is on a level that is incomparable with the UK.
How we all get there is much of the debate I guess.
I fervently hope that there is another runner in the race to take this challenge on as in my opinion BLM is an Anarcho-Communist movement first and foremost with Intersectionality ruling the roost.
I think that Black lives are actually secondary to their cause and a weapon to get there.
https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
Casual and possibly unintentional racism is missed by so many. They don't believe what they are doing is racist.
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If this had been a ' Rainbow over the Etihad ' would we having all this fuss
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Casual and possibly unintentional racism is missed by so many. They don't believe what they are doing is racist.
He is undoubtedly a prick.
His Tweets have shown him for what he is..a nasty horrible bastard.
I’m not comfortable with the cancel culture we are following though.
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction...etc
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
If this had been a ' Rainbow over the Etihad ' would we having all this fuss
Are you plastered and trying to have a laugh, trolling or serious?
Hard to tell anymore.
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Originally Posted by
Wash DC Blue
Are you plastered and trying to have a laugh, trolling or serious?
Hard to tell anymore.
Well its gone on for a bit now , thought I'd sling that one in to freshen it up .
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Re: Aeroplane Over The Etihad
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Originally Posted by
Wash DC Blue
It’s an interesting point that you make.
I have posted on here numerous times my support for Black Lives.
I’ve also stated for want of a better word my “confusion” I guess on how to untangle the undoubted systematic racism in America (which no matter how much people try to equate the two) is on a level that is incomparable with the UK.
How we all get there is much of the debate I guess.
I fervently hope that there is another runner in the race to take this challenge on as in my opinion BLM is an Anarcho-Communist movement first and foremost with Intersectionality ruling the roost.
I think that Black lives are actually secondary to their cause and a weapon to get there.
https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/
"BLM is an Anarcho-Communist movement with Intersectionality ruling the roost"
"I think that Black lives are actually secondary to their cause and a weapon to get there."
Why on earth do you think that? The link you put up doesn't help me understand your point any clearer, sorry.
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
Well its gone on for a bit now , thought I'd sling that one in to freshen it up .
If this had been a ' Natural born UK citizens are white over the Etihad ' would we having all this fuss
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Originally Posted by
Heisenberg
"BLM is an Anarcho-Communist movement with Intersectionality ruling the roost"
"I think that Black lives are actually secondary to their cause and a weapon to get there."
Why on earth do you think that? The link you put up doesn't help me understand your point any clearer, sorry.
Did you read it?
I can provide bullet points if the paragraphs are a bit too big for you.
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Originally Posted by
Wash DC Blue
Did you read it?
I can provide bullet points if the paragraphs are a bit too big for you.
Pretty please.
Edit: Bullet points with an explanation. Cheers.
Double edit: I'll respond in the morning as it's 1am here. G'night!
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Originally Posted by
Heisenberg
Pretty please.
Edit: Bullet points with an explanation. Cheers.
Double edit: I'll respond in the morning as it's 1am here. G'night!
No worries, the time zone difference is probably a bigger ball ache than getting the food I want.
Anyway here you go, some could be subjective down to your interpretation “Comrade” xx
Every day, we recommit to healing ourselves and each other, and to co-creating alongside comrades
We are self-reflexive and do the work required to dismantle cisgender privilege
We engage comrades with the intent to learn about and connect with their contexts
We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure
When we gather, we do so with the intention of freeing ourselves from the tight grip of heteronormative thinking
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Originally Posted by
trampie09
In America I think I read that a certain group make up 12% or 13% of the population but commit 52% of the homicides.
They are victims of 52% of the homicides. Just google before you post. Then you know. Instead of just thinking you might know.
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
Question: do you believe it’s possible for a person to give racist abuse to another person of the same race?
OK
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
OK
Of course it is, witness Ferdinand(?) and the "Choc ice" comment.
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Originally Posted by
Wash DC Blue
No worries, the time zone difference is probably a bigger ball ache than getting the food I want.
Anyway here you go, some could be subjective down to your interpretation “Comrade” xx
Every day, we recommit to healing ourselves and each other, and to co-creating alongside comrades
We are self-reflexive and do the work required to dismantle cisgender privilege
We engage comrades with the intent to learn about and connect with their contexts
We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure
When we gather, we do so with the intention of freeing ourselves from the tight grip of heteronormative thinking
That's exactly the sort of society I would like to see
Obviously in america I would be labelled a pinko commie
And sadly the uk is going the same way
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Originally Posted by
Wash DC Blue
No worries, the time zone difference is probably a bigger ball ache than getting the food I want.
Anyway here you go, some could be subjective down to your interpretation “Comrade” xx
Every day, we recommit to healing ourselves and each other, and to co-creating alongside comrades
We are self-reflexive and do the work required to dismantle cisgender privilege
We engage comrades with the intent to learn about and connect with their contexts
We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure
When we gather, we do so with the intention of freeing ourselves from the tight grip of heteronormative thinking
You have put bullet points but with no explanation
Its like saying look at this ! , with no analysis
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
You have put bullet points but with no explanation
Its like saying look at this ! , with no analysis
But even without the explanation and without analysis it is still the kind of society you'd like to see so there is no need for him to go to the trouble of typing them is there?
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
But even without the explanation and without analysis it is still the kind of society you'd like to see so there is no need for him to go to the trouble of typing them is there?
Aye , an equal , sharing society
You clearly dont want that , I understand
