Leave it 5 months and we could get NJ for nothing. Football is fickle a bad start and he could get the chop :biggrin:
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Leave it 5 months and we could get NJ for nothing. Football is fickle a bad start and he could get the chop :biggrin:
Elsewhere Liam Manning is the new Norwich manager.
And Ryan Mason is the new West Brom manager.
not that I'm bothered with football at a higher level :hide:
We could have had him for nothing two years ago when. we appointed Bulut.Quote:
Originally Posted by NinianKnight
Well, they've managed it. Incredibly, Cardiff City have now taken longer to sort out the manager situation in the summer of 2025 than they did in 2023 and 2024 when we appointed Bulut on 3 /6/23 and it was confirmed he'd signed his new contract on the same day last year.
Can you imagine if Amazon Prime had commissioned a 'Welcome to Cardiff' series a couple of years ago. It would have been comedy gold with Tan, Dalman, Choo, Bulut, Riza ringing up fans, an insight to the workings of our recruitment team, the interviews, the chasing of unwilling managers, the list is endless. If only..Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
It's cruel, but my favourite one out of those fly on the wall documentaries about football clubs is still the Sunderland one because it's about failure. I don't think I'm alone in thinking that way, so one about City would be very appealing to a certain type of fan I'm sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
Funny you mention unwilling managers, here's the latest odds with a very close race going on for first place;-
https://www.bettingodds.com/thesackr...s/cardiff-city
When I first saw the page I linked, the thought did cross my mind "how many of those really want the job"? I'm sure Buckingham did, but I've seen it said that the pursuit of Nathan Jones made it clear to him that he was a second choice for the job and so who could blame him if he opted for one of the other jobs he's been linked with (e.g. Plymouth or Notts County)? Ramsey wants to keep on playing we're told and, a;though Jones has spoken in the past about his desire to manage City one day, his only public comment I'm aware of since Charlton were promoted is one saying he will be staying with them.
I've maintained for years that there are plenty of good managers who would not work for Tan and it seems to me that the number is probably growing given how we acted after sacking Bulut and now after sacking Riza.
On the flip side, there are only 92 positions available, and some ex managers will be in a strong financial position where they can afford to wait and pick and choose their next position.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Lots of others won’t, and will see it as an opportunity where they can get back into day to day football and raise their profile
He's an outsider for Plymouth, it looks like they much more higher targets than we did.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
https://www.oddschecker.com/football...manent-managerQuote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
I wouldn't have said that really
Was funny typical city, then just became boring, now it's beyond ridiculous.
It wouldn't surprise me if Plymouth, having been actually caught out by their manager leaving a month after ours still manage to do a proper recruitment process and hire someone before us.
We will eventually hire someone, probably being allowed to bring one or two staff with him and that will be our structure change complete.
I wouldn't be surprised if Bristol City, who lost their manager yesterday, hire someone before us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trigger
He's moved up a bit, but there have been four or more bove him all the time and Wilshire has been favourite all of the time, here it looks like he's 2nd choice here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
People panic here, I really don't think he will be Plymouths Manager.
This is turning into quite the race between the manager announcement, new kit announcement and fixture release announcement.
Maybe we aren't giving the club enough credit, maybe the new manager is in place but they are going to have him modelling the new kit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Der Kaiser
You forgot the retained list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Der Kaiser
It's laughable really. The supposed scrutiny and attention to detail, not to mention hours of meticulous analysis and consultation time to identify a person who is in all probability going to be in place for 2 years at most..
Seeing as this seems to happen on a regular basis in the Summer I’m not sure there isn’t something in the theory that Tan doesn’t really see the need for paying for a manager in the close season and just waits it out until close to the start of the next season saving on his and his staff’s wages
Another day, another theory. Ramsey doesn't want the job and seems to be the only man in the world who thinks he's got another year left in him to play. The problem is no-one wants to take him on and he eventually retires in October. By this time (possibly) we've installed Purse. Ramsey gets the U21s job. A month later we're 14th and Purse is sacked and Ramsey takes over the first team and we storm to promotion and Tan walks around the pitch with a big smile and mocking everyone for saying he doesn't know how to run a football club. That's it, that's the plan.
How do Watford get managers? They sack more than us.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
like jury service, everyone has a turnQuote:
Originally Posted by ninian opinian
Neil Critchley the latest name doing the rounds on social media this evening 🤪
Fecks sake :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland
If we end up with someone like Neil Critchley then it really does highlight what everyone thought that this agency style appointment is a complete waste of time.
Get a couple of journalists to tweet on cue a day before deadline day that we are pushing hard for Nathan Jones then a week later appoint someone like this. Must think we are stupid
I’ll send my season ticket backQuote:
Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland
Looked on a few social media sites and, so far, I’ve yet to see a single contribution in favour of a Neil Critchley appointment.
According to my sources (I read another board), Ramsey has agreed to give up playing and said to the club he's willing to take the job.
He actually gave up playing when he signed for us two season ago!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
I still cherish his goal at Leicester mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Prophet of Doom
BBM and Rambo as some sort of DOF/Manager/Assistant footballing combo?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
Tanked at QPR, failed at Blackpool on his return there, sacked inside a season at Hearts. Genuinely don't think another top half League One club would give him a chance and yet, here we are...Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Rumours going around that its Ramsey. Tiresome now.
If they'd come out after the Norwich game and said "we trust Ramsey to lead us into League 1" then you'd probably get more behind it, now we've publicly revealed ourselves to be just as shambolic as fans imagined
I didn't imagine it would be this shambolic. I honestly thought there would be a decision by the end of May. The club have managed to underperform against the low bar they set themselves. No decision. No communication. No manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
I think the club were right to pursue other options, it shouldn't have taken this long though. If they'd just employed him straight away then that would've been too quick a call.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
I'm not sure they were overly impressed by anyone they interviewed, thus the Jones play and ultimately agreeing to Ramsey's demands.
Hopefully we have a big summer off the field, with good appointments and we can build.
The last 3 title winners of League One all had managers who were in their first league jobs. Hughes & Schumacher did have some coaching experience, but Moutinho didn't. Id argue that Ramsey's footballing career has giving him plenty of exposure to good coach practice etc.
It's a gamble, but any appointment would have been.
It's shambolic even by our standards.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
I think we needed to a complete change of direction.
Root and branch job.
If this shambles comes to fruition I can only see more of the same.
If we spent £200,000 pounds just to pick Ramsey...
this, the guy knows football, speaking to people involved at the club, he is 100% committed to us, he wants to do things the right wayQuote:
Originally Posted by ccfcwelshlad
Can we assume this is a done deal then as I know you have good contacts at the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfcwelshlad
Not impressed by the appointment or the nature of it if I’m honest. Only thing that gives me a bit of hope is Ramsey is aware of what is needed behind the scenes and made reference to it. Maybe he’s had promises but need to see them actioned first as broken promises and Ramsey walking away in October of his own accord I could easily see
This is Cardiff City, things can change quickly :hehe:, but I would be surprised if it doesn't happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBirchgrovePub
Yeah, he will have had the assurances to take the job. There was chat elsewhere that Choo had gone in with a derisory wage offer, that wasn't the case. However, reading between the lines, it's been a drawn out process to get to a position where everyone is happy.
I think it's been said elsewhere that VT must trust Ramsey, to give any concession to things like a restructure of staff. I think this is true. I would like to think they wouldn't promise things just to let him down, I would hope VT has that trust and respect in Ramsey.
Seriously, I think anything was a risk. We're a basket case, the options out there were a proper mixed bag. We could spend a fortune on Jones, who's a known hothead. Buckingham could potentially get eaten up by the size of the club (I know we are in League One, but the noise around us is surely much different to Oxford!). Evatt had big clashes with fans at Bolton. Or we could abroad and end up with another short term plan, where we turn over a load of players and staff into a new philosophy, for it not to work and we are in a similar predicament in League One as we have been in recent seasons.
Hopefully some positive movement on staff on the bench and around the club, a few signings and we can hit the ground running come August.
This is broadly where I am at. NJ would have been fun. But we need to rebuild the club in the right way. And we need to build on the single success story of the last few years which is the academy. Ramsey knows what wrong with the club, the squad and with individual players. He has worked within an environment of excellence so he knows what good looks like. If it is Rambo I'm happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfcwelshlad
Certainly looking like today is going to be the day. Very rare I disagree with Welshlad, but, if it is Ramsey, the last six weeks and more seems to have been a waste of time and money.