Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Isn't this a case where the initial symptoms of Covid had dispersed but the damage caused by the virus were still present? The two people I know who had Covid months ago are still not back to full health.

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in normal circumstances yes, but this guy has been in and out of hospital with pneumonia for a few years ( and actually caught covid while being in for pneumonia ), so i think the family thought pneumonia would have been the cause of death

There are also thousands not counted as Covid deaths who passed away 28 days after being diagnosed. Im sure many of those still passed away as a result this virus had on their body.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Just been listening to a scientist on the radio saying that this "moonshot" scheme could feasibly work, but it just sounds so Johnson doesn't it? An announcement made about some grandiose scheme, stacks of media coverage and then, just as with the tracing app and the world beating track and trace system, it fizzles out into either mediocrity or non existence. When he was Lord Mayor of London, they were vanity projects which had little effect on people's lives, but the stakes are completely different now and people's lives are at stake.

When has one of Johnson's predictions regarding Covid been shown to be correct? He and his party still enjoy the support of millions, but I would suggest that, when it comes to the virus, they do not have the confidence of the country because of a combination of bungling and the clear breach of trust created by the Dominic Cummings episode.

The devolved Governments of the other home countries appear to have retained the trust of most people and back in March when Johnson addressed the country about the virus, polls showed that a large majority were behind him, but now the reaction will be different I feel - on Tuesday, a Government Minister admitted to the Commons that Johnson's Government were proposing to break international law when it comes to Brexit and a day later he's threatening people with fines if they do not obey laws that come in on Monday, it's not a good look.

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I agree with you, this moonshot thing will never ever happen. 10 million tests a day? Give it a rest

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https://twitter.com/i/status/1303977345787801600

It's the video with a man from Rotherham talking about his recent experience in a supermarket.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

:facepalm:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1303977345787801600

It's the video with a man from Rotherham talking about his recent experience in a supermarket.

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Jesus Christ

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Originally Posted by blue matt

in normal circumstances yes, but this guy has been in and out of hospital with pneumonia for a few years ( and actually caught covid while being in for pneumonia ), so i think the family thought pneumonia would have been the cause of death

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Have a read of this, old fruit:
https://publichealthmatters.blog.gov...vid-19-deaths/

Latest.

Drop in RCT.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...-live-18895607

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Originally Posted by Hilts

Latest.

Drop in RCT.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...-live-18895607

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Merthyr on the brink they keep saying.
Scotland have now implemented the 6 people rule aswell. I wonder if Drakefords planning the same? Its tricky as all the hotspots are the central valley areas where as the rest of Wales seem to be fine.

My neighbour just phoned to book a test and he was told the nearest testing site available was in BRISTOL !!!!

He lives in Llanishen, Cardiff

Due to an increasing number of positive COVID-19 cases and to prevent a future lockdown, Council Leaders in Merthyr Tydfil & Rhondda Cynon Taf are asking all residents to take action now to avoid the need for a formal local lockdown in the near future.

The voluntary actions requested from residents, which are recommended with immediate effect, and include:

• Only using public transport for essential purposes, which includes travel to education, work, essential medical appointments, shopping and visiting supermarkets;
• Working from home for the next few weeks if you are able to do so. Actively seek the support of all employers to ensure that those that can work from home do so;
• Wearing three layer face coverings or masks, where it is safe to do so, whilst in work, in supermarkets and other indoor or crowded public spaces (recommended for age 12 and over);
• Do not visit care homes, unless it is an end of life visit where full PPE will be required.

Both Councils have made clear that Schools will remain open and home to school transport will continue to operate in accordance with the latest Public Health Wales guidance.

Cwm Taf Morgannwg University Health Board and the two local authorities are recommending for residents and family members in households who were previously part of the NHS Shielding Scheme, to ask their employers if it is practical to work from home. Residents are also urged to assess the risks associated with their day to day life and avoid, where possible, crowded public places, particularly indoor public spaces. This Advice does not mean the NHS Shielding Scheme, at this time, is restarting.

Both Councils are already taking action to ensure all large supermarkets, retail stores and licensed premises adhere to the Coronavirus Regulations that seek to control, minimise and prevent the risk of exposure to Covid 19. South Wales Police continue to actively enforce current Wales-wide covid-19 regulations with residents, alongside the Councils’ environmental health teams.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

the cases they've had in Scotland have not been associated with schools though. the few cases they've had in schools have been teachers who have caught it elsewhere transmitting it to other teachers

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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...r-one-22598425

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The wife’s a teacher. If she comes home with a cough...

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Just been listening to a scientist on the radio saying that this "moonshot" scheme could feasibly work, but it just sounds so Johnson doesn't it? An announcement made about some grandiose scheme, stacks of media coverage and then, just as with the tracing app and the world beating track and trace system, it fizzles out into either mediocrity or non existence. When he was Lord Mayor of London, they were vanity projects which had little effect on people's lives, but the stakes are completely different now and people's lives are at stake.

When has one of Johnson's predictions regarding Covid been shown to be correct? He and his party still enjoy the support of millions, but I would suggest that, when it comes to the virus, they do not have the confidence of the country because of a combination of bungling and the clear breach of trust created by the Dominic Cummings episode.

The devolved Governments of the other home countries appear to have retained the trust of most people and back in March when Johnson addressed the country about the virus, polls showed that a large majority were behind him, but now the reaction will be different I feel - on Tuesday, a Government Minister admitted to the Commons that Johnson's Government were proposing to break international law when it comes to Brexit and a day later he's threatening people with fines if they do not obey laws that come in on Monday, it's not a good look.

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It’s Boris being Boris.

All show no substance.

The utter twat.

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Originally Posted by Jordi Culé

It’s Boris being Boris.

All show no substance.

The utter twat.

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Just read that cases of gonorrhoea in UK are highest since records began!

Some people are definitely not 'social distancing'

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Originally Posted by Hilts

There are also thousands not counted as Covid deaths who passed away 28 days after being diagnosed. Im sure many of those still passed away as a result this virus had on their body.

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I think many died with the virus rather than of the virus.

However as you say many others died more than 28 days after being diagnosed at least partially because of the efect of the virus.

I suppose in the months and years to come attempts will be made to clarify the figures.

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Originally Posted by Michael Morris

Due to an increasing number of positive COVID-19 cases and to prevent a future lockdown, Council Leaders in Merthyr Tydfil & Rhondda Cynon Taf are asking all residents to take action now to avoid the need for a formal local lockdown in the near future.

The voluntary actions requested from residents, which are recommended with immediate effect, and include:

• Only using public transport for essential purposes, which includes travel to education, work, essential medical appointments, shopping and visiting supermarkets;
• Working from home for the next few weeks if you are able to do so. Actively seek the support of all employers to ensure that those that can work from home do so;
• Wearing three layer face coverings or masks, where it is safe to do so, whilst in work, in supermarkets and other indoor or crowded public spaces (recommended for age 12 and over);
• Do not visit care homes, unless it is an end of life visit where full PPE will be required.

Both Councils have made clear that Schools will remain open and home to school transport will continue to operate in accordance with the latest Public Health Wales guidance.

Cwm Taf Morgannwg University Health Board and the two local authorities are recommending for residents and family members in households who were previously part of the NHS Shielding Scheme, to ask their employers if it is practical to work from home. Residents are also urged to assess the risks associated with their day to day life and avoid, where possible, crowded public places, particularly indoor public spaces. This Advice does not mean the NHS Shielding Scheme, at this time, is restarting.

Both Councils are already taking action to ensure all large supermarkets, retail stores and licensed premises adhere to the Coronavirus Regulations that seek to control, minimise and prevent the risk of exposure to Covid 19. South Wales Police continue to actively enforce current Wales-wide covid-19 regulations with residents, alongside the Councils’ environmental health teams.

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Went shopping in the Co op in Treorchy this morning, and saw little evidence of compliance with the request to wear masks - about 20 per cent of customers maybe, I think people will have to be told that they have to wear masks.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Went shopping in the Co op in Treorchy this morning, and saw little evidence of compliance with the request to wear masks - about 20 per cent of customers maybe, I think people will have to be told that they have to wear masks.

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Shops do not want to enforce it because it causes problems and hostility towards their staff, who are not qualified or experienced in dealing with this.

Police do not have the resources to police it.

In some cases people are simply unaware of what the rulings are in specific areas.

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Originally Posted by qccfc

Shops do not want to enforce it because it causes problems and hostility towards their staff, who are not qualified or experienced in dealing with this.

Police do not have the resources to police it.

In some cases people are simply unaware of what the rulings are in specific areas.

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I didn't see any of the staff wearing a mask either, but, you would assume the Welsh Government wants everyone in Merthyr and RCT to wear one while they are in a shop and I can't see it happening unless they tell people they have to wear them.

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Originally Posted by lisvaneblue

Just read that cases of gonorrhoea in UK are highest since records began!

Some people are definitely not 'social distancing'

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I'm no expert but I'm fairly sure wearing a face mask would be pretty useless in stopping the spread of that virus.

The choice has been made for them now, wear your mask or don't come in to shop. I was in Tesco last night and whilst most people are still being cautious and respecting other shoppers, there are still morons leaning over people, standing too close, yapping in the isles, etc etc. I feel like punching them sometimes! :hehe:

Can't see us getting down the city this side of Christmas thats for sure. :frown:

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Went shopping in the Co op in Treorchy this morning, and saw little evidence of compliance with the request to wear masks - about 20 per cent of customers maybe, I think people will have to be told that they have to wear masks.

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They are going to have to wear them from Monday.

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Originally Posted by qccfc

Shops do not want to enforce it because it causes problems and hostility towards their staff, who are not qualified or experienced in dealing with this.

Police do not have the resources to police it.

In some cases people are simply unaware of what the rulings are in specific areas.

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Down here ( im in England ) a very very high % wear them, in the past week ( or 10 days ) when ive been out and about, ive seen 1 Gypsy family, Asian bloke and a complete scruffy family not wearing them, most even wear them around town ( outside ) its just 2nd nature now

Wales has until now refused to comply with WHO advice on encouraging wearing of masks in shops. While this U-turn by the Welsh Government is welcome it would be helpful if they would explain the science behind their belief that despite rising case numbers it is still completely OK to sit inside a pub for hours on end without wearing one.

got a issue due to covid19

Our girls grassroot football season starts tomorrow, just had a message that our GK's mum, our GK's sister has been sent home from from school with a " chesty cough " , her mum is taking her for a test, though has said she has asthma and always gets a chesty cough this time of the year, but safer than sorry she is having a test, so the sister ( our GK ) is staying home

Where does that leave the rest of the team, should we be isolating ? ? ?

ive googled it and found this

https://www.publichealth.hscni.net/s...Businesses.pdf

10. What to do if a member of staff or the public with
suspected COVID-19 has recently been in your workplace
For contacts of a suspected case in the workplace, no restrictions or special control
measures are required while laboratory test results for COVID19 are awaited. In particular,
there is no need to close the workplace or send other staff home at this point. Most possible
cases turn out to be negative. Therefore, until the outcome of test results is known there is
no action that the workplace needs to take.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/nhs-test...place-guidance

Alerting close contacts
When someone first develops symptoms and orders a test, they will be encouraged to alert the people that they have had close contact with in the 48 hours before symptom onset. If any of those close contacts are co-workers, the person who has developed symptoms should consider asking their employer to alert those co-workers.

Close contacts at this stage do not need to self-isolate unless requested to do so by NHS Test and Trace or a public health professional, but they should:

avoid contact with people at high increased risk of severe illness from coronavirus, such as people with pre-existing medical conditions
take extra care in practising social distancing and good hygiene
watch out for symptoms and self-isolate if they also show signs of coronavirus



Now to me that reads we need not do anything till we know its a + result ? ? , we did a specialist GK training session with our GK and 2 others from our team (one being my daughter ) on Wednesday evening, we Played a friendly last Saturday aswell when our GK played, but reading the both above we just need to carry on and wait till we find out the result

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Originally Posted by Jordi Culé

I'm no expert but I'm fairly sure wearing a face mask would be pretty useless in stopping the spread of that virus.

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And judging by the number of stray little Borises around Johnson doesn't like using dick coverings.

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Originally Posted by blue matt

got a issue due to covid19

Our girls grassroot football season starts tomorrow, just had a message that our GK's mum, our GK's sister has been sent home from from school with a " chesty cough " , her mum is taking her for a test, though has said she has asthma and always gets a chesty cough this time of the year, but safer than sorry she is having a test, so the sister ( our GK ) is staying home

Where does that leave the rest of the team, should we be isolating ? ? ?

ive googled it and found this

https://www.publichealth.hscni.net/s...Businesses.pdf

10. What to do if a member of staff or the public with
suspected COVID-19 has recently been in your workplace
For contacts of a suspected case in the workplace, no restrictions or special control
measures are required while laboratory test results for COVID19 are awaited. In particular,
there is no need to close the workplace or send other staff home at this point. Most possible
cases turn out to be negative. Therefore, until the outcome of test results is known there is
no action that the workplace needs to take.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/nhs-test...place-guidance

Alerting close contacts
When someone first develops symptoms and orders a test, they will be encouraged to alert the people that they have had close contact with in the 48 hours before symptom onset. If any of those close contacts are co-workers, the person who has developed symptoms should consider asking their employer to alert those co-workers.

Close contacts at this stage do not need to self-isolate unless requested to do so by NHS Test and Trace or a public health professional, but they should:

avoid contact with people at high increased risk of severe illness from coronavirus, such as people with pre-existing medical conditions
take extra care in practising social distancing and good hygiene
watch out for symptoms and self-isolate if they also show signs of coronavirus



Now to me that reads we need not do anything till we know its a + result ? ? , we did a specialist GK training session with our GK and 2 others from our team (one being my daughter ) on Wednesday evening, we Played a friendly last Saturday aswell when our GK played, but reading the both above we just need to carry on and wait till we find out the result

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I dont think youd need to isolate or anything as your keeper isnt positive or have symptoms.

It may be worth checking whether as a precaution the team should be playing.

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Originally Posted by Hilts

I dont think youd need to isolate or anything as your keeper isnt positive or have symptoms.

It may be worth checking whether as a precaution the team should be playing.

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Ive contacted our clubs welfare officer and messaged the other teams coach, seemed fair to let him in on the decision, if he doesnt fancy it, then fair enough

A whopping 3 cases in the county of Cardiff today

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Originally Posted by Jordi Culé

I'm no expert but I'm fairly sure wearing a face mask would be pretty useless in stopping the spread of that virus.

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You are right...you are no expert

There is plenty of evidence that wearing the correct type of face mask will help stop the wearer spreading the disease to others, should they be carrying the virus

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Originally Posted by goats

A whopping 3 cases in the county of Cardiff today

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And yesterday...and the day before, and the day before that...what were the numbers then?

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Originally Posted by lisvaneblue

You are right...you are no expert

There is plenty of evidence that wearing the correct type of face mask will help stop the wearer spreading the disease to others, should they be carrying the virus

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Jordi was talking about gonorrhoea wasn't he?

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Originally Posted by goats

A whopping 3 cases in the county of Cardiff today

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To give the bigger picture.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51888681

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Originally Posted by lisvaneblue

You are right...you are no expert

There is plenty of evidence that wearing the correct type of face mask will help stop the wearer spreading the disease to others, should they be carrying the virus

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😂😂😂

I dont think wearing a mask would stop that virus.

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Originally Posted by lisvaneblue

You are right...you are no expert

There is plenty of evidence that wearing the correct type of face mask will help stop the wearer spreading the disease to others, should they be carrying the virus

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:hehe: :hehe::hehe:

Best Whooooooooooooosh I’ve seen in ages :hehe::facepalm:

Uk cases up to 3,500 plus.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Jordi was talking about gonorrhoea wasn't he?

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It seems to have gonorrhoead over his head

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

It seems to have gonorrhoead over his head

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😂😂

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

It seems to have gonorrhoead over his head

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*Clap hands and applauds*

That is ****ing brilliant.

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Originally Posted by lisvaneblue

You are right...you are no expert

There is plenty of evidence that wearing the correct type of face mask will help stop the wearer spreading the disease to others, should they be carrying the virus

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I'm leaving this conversation now. Theres so many places I could go with that.

Lisvane Blue, you absolute sexual deviant.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Jordi was talking about gonorrhoea wasn't he?

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Gonorrhoea is not caused by a virus, so I assumed he was talking about Covid-19

It is caused by a bacteria. Very different

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Originally Posted by lisvaneblue

Gonorrhoea is not caused by a virus, so I assumed he was talking about Covid-19

It is caused by a bacteria. Very different

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:hehe: