Stay in the EU petition

Another nail in the Brexit coffin in Parliament tonight. It will be buried completely by this time next week.

Minister resigns. His seat, Watford, had 10,000 signatures on the petition. His majority was about 2000. The petition is having an effect.

Brexit is gradually dying. The Brexiteers won the Referendum but lost the argument ever since. Empty vessels.

The new referendum will have 3 questions
1 In
2 Out
3 Okey Dokey

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Originally Posted by jackrabbit

From the Telegraph:

“Truly, Brexit Derangement Syndrome has gone viral.
So far, an impressive list of characters has signed the petition. Jacob Rees-Mogg has given it his seal of approval over 8,000 times. Idi Amin, of all people, has signed it over 700 times. Journalist Julia Hartley-Brewer registered herself under the name “Remoaner McRemoanface”, seemingly without detection. One Leaver, Bruce Lawson, testing the online system’s limits, found that he could sign the petition on multiple email accounts. Others have set up automated systems to sign up over and over again.
Signatures have been pouring in from North Korea to Russia to the Vatican City. Clearly, the rest of the world feels Britain is making a huge mistake – they must do, if the Holy See, the leader of the ERG and a deceased Ugandan warlord are all united in their attempts to thwart Brexit. It emerges that the petition’s creator, one Margaret Georgiadou, had joked about killing the PM and shooting Brexiteers “with impunity” on her Facebook account. You couldn’t make it up.
All this tells us what we already knew – the petition isn’t worth the e-paper it’s written on.”

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JRMogg has 8000 different email addresses....wow...

There will be a backlash before long from brexiteers.

Brexit will never be stopped.

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

There will be a backlash before long from brexiteers.

Brexit will never be stopped.

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:hehe:

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

There will be a backlash before long from brexiteers.

Brexit will never be stopped.

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The remainers are the equivalent of the Trump Russian Collusion believers, they have swallowed the BS narrative hook, line and sinker. The only difference is Trump is still standing, while the Brexit crowd are on their knees :biggrin:

As long as the MPs of Cardiff back remain and make it as difficult as possible for the rich English elite to line their pockets (which is what we voted for) they are doing their jobs in line with the wishes of the people who voted for them.

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

There will be a backlash before long from brexiteers.

Brexit will never be stopped.

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:hehe: you can’t even tell us why you’re so desperate for it.

Interestingly there was another petition along similar lines that was raised shortly after the (advisory) referendum.
That one got slightly over 1 million votes, but the interesting thing is where the signatories were located.
In the original one the signatories were clustered around areas that were strongly remain in the (illegally campaigned) referendum, as you would expect.
This time round the signatories were a lot more evenly spread. More in remain areas, but not much more.

Also notably, in both petitions there was notably few signatories from the valleys.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

Interestingly there was another petition along similar lines that was raised shortly after the (advisory) referendum.
That one got slightly over 1 million votes, but the interesting thing is where the signatories were located.
In the original one the signatories were clustered around areas that were strongly remain in the (illegally campaigned) referendum, as you would expect.
This time round the signatories were a lot more evenly spread. More in remain areas, but not much more.

Also notably, in both petitions there was notably few signatories from the valleys.

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:yikes:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

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That shouldn't be a surprise, it is a matter of public record.

https://www.lanacion.com.py/resizer/...QCLXOEMK44.png

A group of Remainers make their way to the London protest

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One of these was a march to leave, one a march to remain.
Can you guess which?

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Originally Posted by JennyWren

Another nail in the Brexit coffin in Parliament tonight. It will be buried completely by this time next week.

Minister resigns. His seat, Watford, had 10,000 signatures on the petition. His majority was about 2000. The petition is having an effect.

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Stupid post. He got over 26000 votes in the election and Labour in second place got 24000. Total electorate vote was 58600 on a 68% turnout. How on earth do you know which 10000 signed the petition. The 10000 is only 20% of the voters in the constituency. That means the other 76000 on the electiral roll could all be leavers for all you know. The Minister has been on tv this morning. He actually support the Government Brexit deal agreed with EU and has voted for it. He just wants alternatives in case it doesnt get through to avoid no deal.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

One of these was a march to leave, one a march to remain.
Can you guess which?

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I hope we remain :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

I hope we remain :biggrin:

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Why's that?

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Originally Posted by Rjk

Why's that?

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It will be a lot more fun :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

It will be a lot more fun :thumbup:

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Let's hear what you think will happen then?

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Originally Posted by Rjk

Let's hear what you think will happen then?

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Tighter integration and further enlargement.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Tighter integration and further enlargement.

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I'm all for that. Most of the problems facing us today can only be solved working together with our neighbours

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Tighter integration and further enlargement.

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Thats basically what Hitler and Stalin wanted as well.

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Originally Posted by dml1954

Thats basically what Hitler and Stalin wanted as well.

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Hitler wanted integration? Mmm ok.

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Originally Posted by dml1954

Thats basically what Hitler and Stalin wanted as well.

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I think it was their genocide that was the issue with them pal not integration :hehe:

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Originally Posted by dml1954

Thats basically what Hitler and Stalin wanted as well.

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Yep everyone always goes on about Hitler and his agenda of multicultural integration

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Originally Posted by Rjk

Yep everyone always goes on about Hitler and his agenda of multicultural integration

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Bloody one-bollocked vegetarians.

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Bloody one-bollocked vegetarians.

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Not sure where the vegetarian or the one bollock rumour started

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Of course, brexit won't affect everyone.

It’s all posh public school dick heads playing politics, they don’t care how it ****s the work class in this country they’ll be fine. It’s all a game to them.

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Originally Posted by lardy

Hitler wanted integration? Mmm ok.

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He wanted everyone else to be part of Germany didn't he ?

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Originally Posted by dml1954

He wanted everyone else to be part of Germany didn't he ?

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I think you should go and read a history book

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

It’s all posh public school dick heads playing politics, they don’t care how it ****s the work class in this country they’ll be fine. It’s all a game to them.

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The only way you can get what you want is by taking control of parliament through the ballot box, without any involvement from the EU. I don't think your fellow citizens are up to the task though.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

The only way you can get what you want is by taking control of parliament through the ballot box, without any involvement from the EU. I don't think your fellow citizens are up to the task though.

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I disagree, it is far easier to stand up to the big business interests and the tax loophole exploiters as part of the EU. As a stand alone nation we would end up as a thatcherite tax haven.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

I disagree, it is far easier to stand up to the big business interests and the tax loophole exploiters as part of the EU. As a stand alone nation we would end up as a thatcherite tax haven.

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How could you if you were running parliament and making the laws?

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Originally Posted by dml1954

Thats basically what Hitler and Stalin wanted as well.

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Christ on a bike. I've heard it all now!

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Originally Posted by dml1954

He wanted everyone else to be part of Germany didn't he ?

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As long as they were Aryan, yes.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

How could you if you were running parliament and making the laws?

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Since WWII we have had 44 years of Tory government, compared to 30 of labour (of which almost half was tory-lite new labour).
There is nothing to suggest that the UK would elect a socialist government any time soon, especially if Scotland decides to leave in the event of a no deal.

95% of the times the UK has used it's vetoing powers in Europe has been to oppose the closing of tax loopholes, so we can remain the money laundering venue of choice.

I have even less faith that a UK government of any colour will match the EU infrastructure spending in wales

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Originally Posted by Rjk

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Of course, brexit won't affect everyone.

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Says it all doesn't it.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

Since WWII we have had 44 years of Tory government, compared to 30 of labour (of which almost half was tory-lite new labour).
There is nothing to suggest that the UK would elect a socialist government any time soon, especially if Scotland decides to leave in the event of a no deal.

95% of the times the UK has used it's vetoing powers in Europe has been to oppose the closing of tax loopholes, so we can remain the money laundering venue of choice.

I have even less faith that a UK government of any colour will match the EU infrastructure spending in wales

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Exactly why I think we need to remain, wait until the tories redraw where the constituency boundaries are too soon after we leave. Perpetual Tory governments for the foreseeable future.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

Since WWII we have had 44 years of Tory government, compared to 30 of labour (of which almost half was tory-lite new labour).
There is nothing to suggest that the UK would elect a socialist government any time soon, especially if Scotland decides to leave in the event of a no deal.

95% of the times the UK has used it's vetoing powers in Europe has been to oppose the closing of tax loopholes, so we can remain the money laundering venue of choice.

I have even less faith that a UK government of any colour will match the EU infrastructure spending in wales

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Over the last 40 years of GEs, the Tories have won every time (in some form) except for Blair's victories, which were as you say Tories-lite.

The 'we can always vote them out' line has no basis in reality. The Tories or a form of Toryism has been in charge since before I was born, and it will be the majority of my life, I'm sure of that.