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just read khan now blaming police resource for the rise in violent crime in London .I notice he also mentions Cardiff seeing a big spike in crime
Has Cardiff seen a big rise in violent crime over the last 5 years ? pretty sure it's quite low compared to most other major cities in the UK
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...cid=spartanntp
YesQuote:
Originally Posted by MOZZER2
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48053575
Trump kicks off 2020 his election campaign in Florida
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9YrnseXYAEG4a3?format=jpg
Our wonderful Westminster Govt and their policing cuts have really done their job well fair play!Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
You must be very excited.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Not really, but it is an interesting phenomenon, when against the odds a non-politician somehow manages to get his hands on the reigns of power.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdl3S_vbkD4
Out of interest what constitutes a 'massive rally' these days?
Not sure what channel that screenshot is taken from but I understood he filled a 20,000 seat stadium in Florida with his bussed in red-hated supporters. Not knocking that, it is twice the size of the sold out 'All Right!' Kinnock rally in Sheffield in 1992. It is also a few dozen more than Plymouth Argyle managed in their last sold out home match. It is, however, overshadowed by the crowd at the last Millwall sold out home match at The Den!
Maybe it is just Trump's definition of 'massive'?
You know, from Donny's Big Book Of Lies & Bullshit?
As a comparison, this is Biden's own campaign launch in his home state of Pennsylvania.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
https://news.cgtn.com/news/3d3d514d7...ee281ac9d9.jpg
125,000 people applied for tickets, and I think 25,000 were inside the event, plus they had screens outside for those who wanted to be part of it, but didn't have tickets.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
It's the conspiracies and lies season again.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The most bizarre moments from Trump's 2020 campaign rally in Orlando <a href="https://t.co/bYnfL5Shp2">pic.twitter.com/bYnfL5Shp2</a></p>— The Independent (@Independent) <a href="https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1141291532688904192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
He was particularly whiny in that clip.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
You would think that someone who has achieved world peace, cured AIDs and cancer, and built 'that wall' (bigger, better, cheaper and without a single Mexican peso) would try to sound less like a petulant 4 year old.
Gosh that is a rally .Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Don't understand how folk dont understand Trump-ism is popular in his country ,.
I'm not a fan but its democratic choice of the USA .
I do find it ironic though that other egotistic world leaders , not democratically elected of a left leaning ,Marxism, communist regimes stand in front of organised marching, flag waving ,saluting people the leader , dont get the same hatred . or comment ??
I thought Biden was curing cancer? Surely you have to do one better? :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
He's an enigma, and nobody knows how to deal with him. Nobody can land a blow on him, and he continuously taunts them. I reckon he's got the goods on them myself, a lot of people have been very quiet lately.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Oooh perhaps Boris has been watching him ,he displays the same behaviours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
I thought the idea was that Steve Bannon was in touch with Boris and Farage and previously had worked with Trump? Multiple countries seeing the rise of faux populist, anti-regulation politicians looking to improve their finances, who dismiss the media and critics without even trying to answer sensible questions.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
But, but, the economy is improving...
Thread on people being tortured and dying in Trump's detention centres: https://twitter.com/KatzOnEarth/stat...54299826855936
No comment on the criminals who have turned this into a highly profitable and illegal business? The borrowing and stealing of children to get people over the border on false promises? Thousands of people every day, with totals running into the millions. Are you saying this should continue unchecked indefinitely? It's easy to take potshots, but this was going on under Obama. Trump didn't make the laws that allow this to happen, they were already in place before he became president. You can't run a country with open borders, because you will end up without a country. The democrats are sick turning this into a political tool, and talking about concentration camps. Nobody was forced by the US government to go there, nobody. There are already rules in place for asylum seekers, and these are being ignored and circumvented.Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">CNN's Angela Rye says America is headed toward implementing the same "death camps" that Nazi Germany used during the Holocaust <a href="https://t.co/kkWEa0eZgo">pic.twitter.com/kkWEa0eZgo</a></p>— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1141195497551454215?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Can you see the difference between these pics?<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TrumpRalllyOrlando?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etf w">#TrumpRalllyOrlando</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WednesdayWisdom?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"> #WednesdayWisdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/W7F8k50z7T">pic.twitter.com/W7F8k50z7T</a></p>— Bell (@BellSchmid) <a href="https://twitter.com/BellSchmid/status/1141427670963621889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Trump love now off the scale from Wales-Bales I see.
Something almost heroic in the obsession. He trawls those far right and white supremacist websites as a service to the rest of us!
Maybe time for a new MAGA (Morons Are Governing America) hat?
I just fast-forwarded to the logical conclusion of where surge and others are heading.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Detention camps > death camps > Trump is Hitler
Regarding trawling websites, the only place I visit is Twitter :biggrin:
What's he going to be like once he gets off that fence he's been sitting on?Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
:hehe: So much thisQuote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
There ain't nothing wrong with calling out BS when you see it. You might believe in fairy tales but I dont.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
Stop stalking me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
(Isn't that how this works now?)
I am just correcting your misconceptions, but there is no need to thank me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
I don't know what "correcting your misconceptions" means so it would be difficult for me to thank you anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Never mind :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
They go on about Trump on Mexicans hes got nothing on the old guard
As many as 1.3 million people may have been swept up in the Eisenhower-era campaign
https://www.history.com/news/operati...54-deportation
See also: Hitler wasn't a massive fan of Jews so anything that comes afterwards that isn't as bad can't be criticised.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
FFS.
So, someone who has spent the last three or four years on here telling us that the real enemy is a global "elite", becomes a serial defender of Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson (Eton, Balliol College, Oxford), Jacob William Rees-Mogg (Westminster School, Eton, Trinity College, Oxford), Nigel Paul Farage (Dulwich College - a fee paying independent school) and an American (educated at a fee paying school, then a boarding school, Fordham University
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fordham_University
and the Wharton School
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wharto...f_Pennsylvania )
whose billionaire status comes from inherited wealth and has the gall to tell anyone who dares to disagree with him that they lack original thought and are inferior to him when it comes to intelligence? We really do live in strange times :hehe:.
Who are you replying to and what is it in connection with?Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
It's just an observation and I would have thought it was obvious who I was talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Your brain has been addled by the Guardian :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Yeah, fancy me not being able to recognise Messrs Johnson, Rees-Mogg, Farage and Trump for the men of the people they so obviously are.
You should know by the way the press treat them that they are not part of the team. They only have shake things up a bit, everything else is down to the people to ensure they put the right candidates forward in future elections. Boris only has one job, and that is to return sovereignty to Westminster. Once he has achieved that he becomes redundent in my book.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Ah... the sovereignty myth!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
This is part of the Little Englander narrative that has the UK giving all that money to the European superstate, run by a shadowy arm of the Globalist Illuminati (High priestess - Hillary Clinton), that insists on making or subverting all our laws and making us buy straight bananas?
In truth sovereignty is pooled through the EU - with increasing control over decisions made via the elected parliament or through inter governmental meetings. Most of the fact checking reports i have read over the years say that the UK has very very little imposed on it that it doesn't agree with, or indeed initiate. In some ways the UK has been imposing it's views on other European countries through the EEC/EU for 45 years - despite the German-French axis. Apart from the gravy-train bureaucrats insisting on straight bananas, there has been very little to get excited about (unless you are wtiting the leader columns for the Sun, Mail, Express etc).
The sovereignty myth also assumes that national governments (through law making and revenue raising) control what happens within their borders, or across their borders. Ever since the start of global capitalism (not your construct of Globalism) and the post-war total reliance on fuel, material and food imports to much of the world, that has been untrue. What is sovereignty worth if all it means is the ability of elected MPs or judges (much hated by the advocates of national sovereignty) to be blown away by a computer virus or an oil price hike? Governmental power over laws and money is important, but they are just a couple of levers amongst many - and the people holding the other ones don't live in Westminster!
I was thinking more about trade deals that best serve our own economic interests, and determing our own economic future. Why are you so determined to stay in the EU at any cost?Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
I don't think I am determined to stay in the EU at any cost. But I am happy to stay (and hope to see reforms) on the basis of the current and anticipated future costs. I expect us to leave, though (but maybe not by the next deadline).Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
In the 1970s (if I had been old enough to vote) I would have probably voted against joining the EEC. A lot of people on the political left supported Brexit on the strength of their opposition four decades or more ago. They voted against the Bosses Club. But I agree with most on the left (and the TUC) that the EU has evolved to become a major protector of environmental and employment rights, and to potentially be a progressive bloc in a world where we have to work together to achieve anything good. It still has 1950-70s 'free market' anti-statism baked into its' DNA, but compared to the USA or Russia (and probably Brazil and India) it is a milder version.
The argument that constantly amazes me though is the one that talks about 'our' interests as if a shared culture of watching the Morecambe & Wise Christmas Special means that I have the same interests and values as Boris Johnson or Jacob Rees-Mogg! I have no common interest with them (and nor do many of the people who slavishly support them and their party). Even less Nigel Farage and his supposed non-racist UKIP creation. I feel more in common with public sector workers in Belgium or people in former steel cities in central Europe, or even with Spanish farmers, than I do with wealthy old-Etonians and proud former members of the Bullington Club! If my future is going to be directed by a Tory (or Christian Democrat) I would prefer, on balance, that it was Angela Merkel calling the shots rather than Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson!
That and an end to wars in Europe - which always seemed to me to be a genuine and powerful reason for European unity.
Welsh, British and European - sounds good to me.