Both decisions fueled by greed and success, how people can't see the similarities, is beyond me.
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One completely removes competition and endangers the existence of the entire football pyramid, the other we wore a different colour shirt at home for a bit, same as many other clubs have done, until it was clear the fans didn't like it, then we changed back. There are some similarities but the two things are not comparable at all in terms of impact or importance.
This has clearly been meticulously planned by the money men at the top of the game.
They would have expected a backlash from the fans and from UEFA but clearly they've figured that they would be able to ride it out and that they are on solid enough ground legally.
The only thing that can stop this now I think is if the response from UEFA and the reaction from the fans is a LOT stronger than they anticipated.
The initial sounds out of UEFA are promising, but whether they will follow through with it remains to be seen.
I have little faith in the remaining football club owners, apparently some have already said thy liked the idea of playing without the big teams, and others will be all too easily enchanted by the carrot being dangled of the remaining 8 places in the league that aren't already accounted for.
I also doubt that any protest by the fans will be coherent or severe enough to have any effect, but I would be happy to be proven wrong.
Yep, not even remotely the same.
I don't even think the shirt change was fuelled by greed and success, more so ignorance and arrogance.
This proposal is absolutely about greed, and those pushing for it will know that they are shafting everyone else in order to get more for themselves
A powerful, and impressive, denunciation of the ESL proposal from Everton - I’ll add the caveat that, with Premier League clubs especially, it’s hard to avoid the suspicion that they would have jumped at the chance if they’d got an invite themselves.
Nevertheless, I think the statement hits the right notes and I feel the term “preposterous arrogance” is very appropriate, when you consider that the six are, effectively, saying we’re off to form a league that is for a large part, like a closed shop, but we’ll also carry on in our current league as if nothing’s happened;-
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...eague-20423045
that's true and if Everton were offered the place instead of spurs I'm guessing they would have jumped at the chance.
however, at this time we need to amplify all voices against this and unite, not dismiss others for (blatant) hipocracy.
if uefa and the fans can put enough pressure on these clubs then I think they'll blink first, and as soon as 1 or 2 bottle it then the whole thing comes tumbling down.
https://www.caughtoffside.com/2021/0...ing-cold-feet/
Make of that what you will. Chelsea & Man City apparently reported on talksport earlier.
"Strong differences of opinion emerging in private between breakaway clubs. Some of execs involved believe they're being hung out to dry & are beginning to get cold feet. They're nervous & disappointed about way it's been handled. One says: “This is not what we signed up for”
yep, if they keep putting up Perez as a spokesman for all this it'll come crashing down before the end of the week, the guys a lunatic.
Apparently the 3bn the club's will divide between them for being a founder member is a loan from j p Morgan, that will need to be repaid.
they are predicting annual income of £5,BN, but as yet don't have any broadcasters signed up to it, if there is a strong enough reaction from fans and uefa this could seriously reduce the appetite for broadcasters
Although comparisons are inevitable, I honestly don't see any direct correlation between the formation of the Premier League and the formation of the European Super League. After all, the former was never intended to be a closed shop. It was always intended to be competitive. Indeed, the founding members included Blackburn, Coventry, Ipswich, Middlesbrough, Norwich, Nottingham Forest, Oldham, QPR, Sheffield Wednesday and Wimbledon, and others such as Crystal Palace, Leeds United, Sheffield United and Southampton, who've all been far from permanent fixtures in the top flight since.
the premier League was formed to boost the TV revenue, and to keep a bigger proportion of that amongst the top league (who "earned" the money).
there were people at the time who wanted it to be a closed shop, and there have been many attempts since to make it so - all resisted. I think ex Bolton chairman Phil Gartside was often pushing that agenda from memory.
this seems like a much more extreme version of that - generate more income, keep it amongst the big boys and prevent them from being relegated
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Bill Shankly's grandson wants Liverpool statue removed after being 'appalled and embarrassed' by FSG: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...rpool-20424279
It's embarrassing that clubs built by Shankly and Busby are being treated this way by billionaire owners. Liverpool fans recently persecuted by The Sun and, bit more historically, Barcelona fans persecuted by Franco are finding that current owners would have sided with those persecuting because of shared wealth.
No doubt the part in the presentations given by JPM's executives to the heads of the six families, sorry football clubs, headed "cons" was a quick one liner along the lines of there will be a backlash at first but we will sweeten up with x,y,z...
The headline news and worldwide condemnation they were not prepared for.
These people have family and friends who are being blackballed and neighbours who, instead of waving, now turn their backs on them as they drive out of their gates in their Bentleys.
Bless 'em.
I wonder if the compromise for this will be something like parachute payments for missing out on European football. big ones
What we’ve not heard much of is an attempted justification from the twelve for their actions - having read the advertising bollox revealed here, perhaps that’s understandable;-
https://www.theguardian.com/football...ying-breakaway
On the other hand, maybe more of this sort of thing from Florentino Perez will win the doubters around?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sp...interview.html