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Re: Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.
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Rjk
do you understand the reason that scientists think that this warming period is different to previous ones?
Why do the government funded scientists think that this warming period is different to previous ones?
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Re: Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.
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Wales-Bales
Why do the government funded scientists think that this warming period is different to previous ones?
do you not know? If so why are you convinced they are wrong?
on the question of funding, there has historically been very little money for climate science, and some very wealthy industries happy to fund climate denial. Many government policies to try to address climate change will have a retardant effect on the economy, so there is considerable pressure on politicians to ignore it also.
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Re: Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.
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the other bob wilson
Fascinating use of the word "cult" lately in this thread seeing as it is those using it who are the cultists.
I Googled the term modern definition of the word cult just now and this came up - it perfectly captures what I believe the word cult has come to mean in today's society;
"The term “cult” refers most often to a group of people with usually atypical beliefs living in relative isolation from the world."
Do the gifted crew on here believe that the Met Office is a member of the cult they refer to? I'd say m0st people would read something like this;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66304220
cast their minds back to what had just happened a year ago in the UK, look at what is happening in southern Europe currently (don't forget a leading member of the naysayers on here was telling everyone there was nothing to worry about there a few days ago :facepalm:) and conclude that there may be something to this human induced climate change stuff after all.
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Re: Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.
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Rjk
do you not know? If so why are you convinced they are wrong?
on the question of funding, there has historically been very little money for climate science, and some very wealthy industries happy to fund climate denial. Many government policies to try to address climate change will have a retardant effect on the economy, so there is considerable pressure on politicians to ignore it also.
Nice mantra, but it seems like you are trying to convince yourself more than anybody else :biggrin:
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Re: Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.
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Wales-Bales
Nice mantra, but it seems like you are trying to convince yourself more than anybody else :biggrin:
:shrug:
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Re: Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.
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Rjk
:shrug:
1. Government funded scientists say the end is nigh.
2. The cult scream "do something".
3. The government proceed to work quietly with a group of billionaires on a multitude of intertwined solutions, that nobody questions or understands what effects it will have on their lives. <--- We are here.
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Re: Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.
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Wales-Bales
Google is a cult training algorithm :hehe:
Fiddling while Greece burns.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66322608
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Re: Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.
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the other bob wilson
Very small sample, but something that may be a concern, what’s the best solution going forward do you think ?
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Re: Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.
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the other bob wilson
havent they come out and blamed arson?
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Re: Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.
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TheGoose
havent they come out and blamed arson?
They did, and it seems that there was some arson, but I think it’s become too widespread now for it to be the case everywhere.
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the other bob wilson
They did, and it seems that there was some arson, but I think it’s become too widespread now for it to be the case everywhere.
well ill defer to your knowledge on wildfires!
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Re: Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.
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TheGoose
havent they come out and blamed arson?
Some arson. Some spontaneous.
All bigger, longer lasting, and harder to control because of the extreme temperatures and baked dry soil and vegetation.
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Re: Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.
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TheGoose
well ill defer to your knowledge on wildfires!
The fires are on at least three separate islands and there’s sixty four of them.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/worl...-b1096291.html
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Re: Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.
This isn't to be taken as a comment on wider issues, but seriously, how shite is the weather here this summer?
I just checked and this 19c cloudy drizzle is here for the next 10 days at least
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Re: Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.
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the other bob wilson
The WEF must have deployed an army of arsonists.
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Re: Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.
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JamesWales
This isn't to be taken as a comment on wider issues, but seriously, how shite is the weather here this summer?
I just checked and this 19c cloudy drizzle is here for the next 10 days at least
And the hottest June on record.
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Re: Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.
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jon1959
And the hottest June on record.
and globally July is the hottest month ever recorded
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Re: Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.
But Climate Change is not a problem!
CO2 is great - plants love it!
More people die of cold than heat - at least in Sussex!
And anyway it was a bit nippy and drizzly in Barry last week so it's obviously all nonsense!
Other detailed climate analysis available from this Frost-Lawson propaganda and lobbying group:
https://www.desmog.com/debunked-lord...cy-foundation/
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Re: Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.
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jon1959
But Climate Change is not a problem!
CO2 is great - plants love it!
More people die of cold than heat - at least in Sussex!
And anyway it was a bit nippy and drizzly in Barry last week so it's obviously all nonsense!
Other detailed climate analysis available from this Frost-Lawson propaganda and lobbying group:
https://www.desmog.com/debunked-lord...cy-foundation/
obviously not going to click the link but the amount of angst people have for this topic just genuinely surprised me
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Re: Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.
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TheGoose
obviously not going to click the link but the amount of angst people have for this topic just genuinely surprised me
Why and why?
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Re: Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.
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TheGoose
obviously not going to click the link but the amount of angst people have for this topic just genuinely surprised me
It's a cult and if you don't fall in your are far right, this topic is not questionable, just like the other cult of resent years, dem's the rules. I'm sure you will have had a looksey at the climate nonsense, Co2 is a trace element in the atmosphere and is at around 421 ppm (0.04%) and human activities contribute only a small portion of this 421 ppm, plenty of climate scientists getting the same treatment as the C19 ones who questioned it. The transition is already being made from climate warming to climate boiling!! :hehe:
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Re: Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.
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Rjk
and globally July is the hottest month ever recorded
Which scientists have said this
For every one scientist stating global warming, there is another who can prove otherwise..
It’s just that one side gets suppressed more.
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Re: Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.
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TWGL1
Which scientists have said this
For every one scientist stating global warming, there is another who can prove otherwise..
It’s just that one side gets suppressed more.
Nonsense.
It is not a 50:50 split of 'opinion' between scientists across the world.
97% of scientists working on climate agree on the facts of global warming and agree that human action is driving rises way above the historical cyclical norms.
From what I can see and read the majority of 'bought' opinion is on the side of climate change denial and the apologists for Big Oil - as it has been for decades. That minority viewpoint is amplified through social media campaigns and major sections of the print and online media. Not the major broadcast players in the UK - BBC/ITV/Sky - but plenty of the right wing press and massive sections of the new media reflect and amplify that view.
Traditional wealth and power is still mainly behind climate change denial - it is certainly not acting in the interests of the poor and the vulnerable.
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Re: Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.
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jon1959
Nonsense.
It is not a 50:50 split of 'opinion' between scientists across the world.
97% of scientists working on climate agree on the facts of global warming and agree that human action is driving rises way above the historical cyclical norms.
From what I can see and read the majority of 'bought' opinion is on the side of climate change denial and the apologists for Big Oil - as it has been for decades. That minority viewpoint is amplified through social media campaigns and major sections of the print and online media. Not the major broadcast players in the UK - BBC/ITV/Sky - but plenty of the right wing press and massive sections of the new media reflect and amplify that view.
Traditional wealth and power is still mainly behind climate change denial - it is certainly not acting in the interests of the poor and the vulnerable.
I’ve no idea what the actual split is , neither do you , but I don’t see any mainstream articles with an alternative viewpoint.
That being said , it will be the poor and vulnerable who this policy will effect more than most as you say.
ULEZ a case in point.
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Re: Yet some will have you believe that there’s nothing to see here.
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TWGL1
I’ve no idea what the actual split is , neither do you , but I don’t see any mainstream articles with an alternative viewpoint.
That being said , it will be the poor and vulnerable who this policy will effect more than most as you say.
ULEZ a case in point.
the poor and vulnerable will also pay a high price if we do nothing