The Transfer Rumour Thread

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Originally Posted by Rjk

still plenty of time for any of them to come good.

if someone wanted to sign Robertson or Salech the. I think they'd need to part with considerably more than we did in order to get them. Fish probably too.

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Daland is 25. If he comes good, I will be amazed. He's so far off the level required.

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Originally Posted by City123

A low level? Osijek are in the Croatian top flight and we're in League 1!

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Croatian top flight is not a good standard

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Originally Posted by City123

Why? We're in the third tier, the amount we could demand for any of our players lowered upon relegation and that's presuming none of them have release clauses

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that might be how it works on football manager

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Originally Posted by Rjk

Croatian top flight is not a good standard

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It's a lot better than League One!

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Pardon?

Daland and Simic have been total disasters, Fish and Robertson haven't increased in value and Salech cost a fair bit

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That's a bit if a rant/spit.

You haven't really addressed what has been said.

But you are quite correct in saying that Simic and Daland have not (yet) been successful signings. (I doubt Simic ever will be). I'm not sure Luton fans would say anything different about McGuinness.

Overall the signings of the 5 will have seen an uplift in value. Salech may sell for more than the whole lot cost together. Robertson and Fish at £1m each were good signings. It was the performance of senior players that led to our relegation last season not the 21 year olds.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/card...ers/verein/603

Daland is an interesting one, clearly has some quality. I think BBM will like his ball playing ability. He has a fundamental flaw as to strength in contact/challenge. If that could be corrected (big if) he could be a very good player alongside a traditional 5. I think that a Jupiler Pro 1 or Eredivisie team would still take him at £1m+ if we looked to sell. He's proven himself at that level.

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

It's a lot better than League One!

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is it?

Simply put, the signings we made in the summer and January windows last season have to be seen as failures collectively - the league table tells you that and the stories we got agt the beginning of February with the recruitment team patting themselves on the back for how well they'd done. were proved to be completely misplaced.

I watched my first League One predictions podcast yesterday and we were down to finish seventh in what the person presenting the show said was going to be the strongest competition seen at this level in some time. The presenter admitted himself that it was too early to make serious selections yet, but I was still a little disappointed to hear him saying we'd miss out on the Play Offs, but then I thought again and i must say that, looking at the players that reported back for training yesterday, seventh is flattering us.

With all of this news of takeovers floating about,, it's hard to know how ambitious we're going to be in the transfer market, but, whatever sort of budget we're working to, the recruitment team and transfer committee have to be more street wise and realisitc than they were a year ago if we're to be promotion challengers.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Simply put, the signings we made in the summer and January windows last season have to be seen as failures collectively - the league table tells you that and the stories we got agt the beginning of February with the recruitment team patting themselves on the back for how well they'd done. were proved to be completely misplaced.

I watched my first League One predictions podcast yesterday and we were down to finish seventh in what the person presenting the show said was going to be the strongest competition seen at this level in some time. The presenter admitted himself that it was too early to make serious selections yet, but I was still a little disappointed to hear him saying we'd miss out on the Play Offs, but then I thought again and i must say that, looking at the players that reported back for training yesterday, seventh is flattering us.

With all of this news of takeovers floating about,, it's hard to know how ambitious we're going to be in the transfer market, but, whatever sort of budget we're working to, the recruitment team and transfer committee have to be more street wise and realisitc than they were a year ago if we're to be promotion challengers.

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I think it will be a strong league one this coming season

Luton still have parachute money, which is a massive advantage in a league where most clubs spend net about 1m a season at the very most.
Us and Plymouth should be expected to be strong, likewise the clubs who lost in the playoffs.
And you can also throw in Bolton and Reading into the mix who I think should be stronger than they were last season.

So already that's 8 clubs in the mix.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

I think it will be a strong league one this coming season

Luton still have parachute money, which is a massive advantage in a league where most clubs spend net about 1m a season at the very most.
Us and Plymouth should be expected to be strong, likewise the clubs who lost in the playoffs.
And you can also throw in Bolton and Reading into the mix who I think should be stronger than they were last season.

So already that's 8 clubs in the mix.

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The bloke doing the podcast had Luton and Huddersfield going up automatically - apparently, the latter have been splashing the cash this summer.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

The bloke doing the podcast had Luton and Huddersfield going up automatically - apparently, the latter have been splashing the cash this summer.

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Most of those podcasters are hopeless; the bookies have us as second favourites.

https://www.oddschecker.com/football...-one/promotion

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Originally Posted by Rjk

that might be how it works on football manager

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And in reality. None of our younger players have proven themselves capable of consistent Championship level performances, our older players appear to have declined culminating in relegation. Therefore value decreases.

Not only that but we also can't hold out as long when negotiating as players want to jump back up, both Luton and Plymouth are already losing their starting striker, do you really think Plymouth would have taken 700k for Hardie this time last year?

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

The former was an ić who wasn't up to scratch.

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The level is high in this thread 🤣

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Originally Posted by City123

And in reality. None of our younger players have proven themselves capable of consistent Championship level performances, our older players appear to have declined culminating in relegation. Therefore value decreases.

Not only that but we also can't hold out as long when negotiating as players want to jump back up, both Luton and Plymouth are already losing their starting striker, do you really think Plymouth would have taken 700k for Hardie this time last year?

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Hardie only went for 700k because there was a clause in his contract

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

The bloke doing the podcast had Luton and Huddersfield going up automatically - apparently, the latter have been splashing the cash this summer.

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Brought in 5 players already

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Simply put, the signings we made in the summer and January windows last season have to be seen as failures collectively - the league table tells you that and the stories we got agt the beginning of February with the recruitment team patting themselves on the back for how well they'd done. were proved to be completely misplaced.

I watched my first League One predictions podcast yesterday and we were down to finish seventh in what the person presenting the show said was going to be the strongest competition seen at this level in some time. The presenter admitted himself that it was too early to make serious selections yet, but I was still a little disappointed to hear him saying we'd miss out on the Play Offs, but then I thought again and i must say that, looking at the players that reported back for training yesterday, seventh is flattering us.

With all of this news of takeovers floating about,, it's hard to know how ambitious we're going to be in the transfer market, but, whatever sort of budget we're working to, the recruitment team and transfer committee have to be more street wise and realisitc than they were a year ago if we're to be promotion challengers.

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There is hope that young players coming back will be better than senior players who featured prominently last season. Im thinking J Colwill , Lawlor , King and Isaak Davies can hopefully stay fit.

Maybe a couple of others as well Troy Perret is apparently very highly rated.

I hope we can clear out some senior pros who let us down badly last season.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

is it?

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Dinamo Zagreb and Hajduk Split, or Burton and Doncaster? Come on.

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Originally Posted by AdrianAlston

Daland is an interesting one, clearly has some quality. I think BBM will like his ball playing ability. He has a fundamental flaw as to strength in contact/challenge. If that could be corrected (big if) he could be a very good player alongside a traditional 5. I think that a Jupiler Pro 1 or Eredivisie team would still take him at £1m+ if we looked to sell. He's proven himself at that level.

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He has a fundamental flaw where he can't defend, he doesn't know where he's supposed to be, he's slow in thought and in action.

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Originally Posted by Hilts

There is hope that young players coming back will be better than senior players who featured prominently last season. Im thinking J Colwill , Lawlor , King and Isaak Davies can hopefully stay fit.

Maybe a couple of others as well Troy Perret is apparently very highly rated.

I hope we can clear out some senior pros who let us down badly last season.

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Joel Colwill couldn't get a sniff at Exeter and King was a squad player at Stevenage. We need to be realistic with them.

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

He has a fundamental flaw where he can't defend, he doesn't know where he's supposed to be, he's slow in thought and in action.

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That first game against the Jacks, he looked really useful, and then looked like a parks player after that, it’s a strange one, but the very least you should expect from a centre half is for him to able to stand his ground and not get knocked over by a strong wind, never mind an incoming centre forward looking to win the ball in the air

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Dinamo Zagreb and Hajduk Split, or Burton and Doncaster? Come on.

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opta stats has the Croatian league very slightly stronger on average with Dinamo Zagreb a bit of an outlier in Croatia.

Osijek the team Simic is linked with are somewhere between Leyton Orient and Wycombe Wanderers according to Opta.

it's very close to League one standard, they have the championship as significantly stronger.
we are the lowest ranked championship side abd are ranked above all but 2 league one teams and all but 3 HNL sides, so there's almost no overlap.

of course these kind of stats could be pretty unreliable, as comparing different leagues is difficult.

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Joel Colwill couldn't get a sniff at Exeter and King was a squad player at Stevenage. We need to be realistic with them.

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I agree. It's a big ask. But the hope is he will be better than the likes of Chambers.

He played 40 games last season including 18 for Exeter.

Simic like Tsunoda crazy signings. Any money we can retrieve will be a huge bonus.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

opta stats has the Croatian league very slightly stronger on average with Dinamo Zagreb a bit of an outlier in Croatia.

Osijek the team Simic is linked with are somewhere between Leyton Orient and Wycombe Wanderers according to Opta.

it's very close to League one standard, they have the championship as significantly stronger.
we are the lowest ranked championship side abd are ranked above all but 2 league one teams and all but 3 HNL sides, so there's almost no overlap.

of course these kind of stats could be pretty unreliable, as comparing different leagues is difficult.

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You think? Come on, Osijek have beaten PSV over 2 legs in fairly recent history

Dinamo Zagreb didn't even win it, and Hajduk came third.

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Originally Posted by Hilts

I agree. It's a big ask. But the hope is he will be better than the likes of Chambers.

He played 40 games last season including 18 for Exeter.

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He only started 9 league games for Exeter, you'd hope he could be better but lets not get carried away

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Originally Posted by Rjk

Hardie only went for 700k because there was a clause in his contract

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So a release clause like I mentioned as one of the options in my original comment?