Jewish group walks away from Labour

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Are you asking if I watched all of the video that I posted or something else?

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Yes the video .

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Originally Posted by RonnieBird

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9178326.html

Most people see voting for labour as dangerous because it would put a lunatic into 10 Downing Street, or because it would extend the Parliamentry stalling tactics on Brexit.

Easy to ignore the even more important issue of anti semitism, but I'm glad to see that Jews have made a clear indication that they won't be victimised again without protest.

Imagine a British government with open anti Semitic tendencies, which insists upon the nation being subordinate to the Germans in the EU.

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Well ,it's a long time since I raised this matter here, and to my surprise I came under withering fire from certain people.

I'd have forgotten all about it ,except I was so shocked at the levels of hostility here from such people as John1959, Cyril Evans and a few others, notably Dorcas.
Terms like " your sort" and "you people" were casually aimed at me and I knew just how ugly and hurtful the words of true bigotry and bare faced racism could be.

I don't suppose for one moment that the few 'bad apples' will reconsider their hateful prejudice , or apologise for defending the indefensible, but at least we can now see them for what they are.

I wonder whether they feel ashamed , because they should be !

Corbyn, the arch apologist for such people has been suspended from the Labour Party and the current leader of that party has finally undertaken to deal with it. He never fulfilled his dreams and it is a great thing that enough people stood up against the engrained racism of those who'd have followed him into another chapter in the bloody history of anti semitism and genocide.

What I've got to ask of the hardcore here who thought they could justify anti semitism is whether they will publicly and voluntarily disassociate themselves from Labour now, or wait till they are rooted out and exposed by Starmer's new policy of expelling them ?

They know EXACTLY who they are, and if they have one shred of human decency ,they should admit that they were seduced by the age old fanaticism of " racial purity" and seek some form of counselling with a view to redemption.

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Originally Posted by RonnieBird

Well ,it's a long time since I raised this matter here, and to my surprise I came under withering fire from certain people.

I'd have forgotten all about it ,except I was so shocked at the levels of hostility here from such people as John1959, Cyril Evans and a few others, notably Dorcas.
Terms like " your sort" and "you people" were casually aimed at me and I knew just how ugly and hurtful the words of true bigotry and bare faced racism could be.

I don't suppose for one moment that the few 'bad apples' will reconsider their hateful prejudice , or apologise for defending the indefensible, but at least we can now see them for what they are.

I wonder whether they feel ashamed , because they should be !

Corbyn, the arch apologist for such people has been suspended from the Labour Party and the current leader of that party has finally undertaken to deal with it. He never fulfilled his dreams and it is a great thing that enough people stood up against the engrained racism of those who'd have followed him into another chapter in the bloody history of anti semitism and genocide.

What I've got to ask of the hardcore here who thought they could justify anti semitism is whether they will publicly and voluntarily disassociate themselves from Labour now, or wait till they are rooted out and exposed by Starmer's new policy of expelling them ?

They know EXACTLY who they are, and if they have one shred of human decency ,they should admit that they were seduced by the age old fanaticism of " racial purity" and seek some form of counselling with a view to redemption.

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No problem. All you have to do in my case is point to the terms "your sort" and "you people" and I will happily apologise. In case you can't then just say sorry before you scoot back to your echo chamber!

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Originally Posted by RonnieBird

Well ,it's a long time since I raised this matter here, and to my surprise I came under withering fire from certain people.

I'd have forgotten all about it ,except I was so shocked at the levels of hostility here from such people as John1959, Cyril Evans and a few others, notably Dorcas.
Terms like " your sort" and "you people" were casually aimed at me and I knew just how ugly and hurtful the words of true bigotry and bare faced racism could be.

I don't suppose for one moment that the few 'bad apples' will reconsider their hateful prejudice , or apologise for defending the indefensible, but at least we can now see them for what they are.

I wonder whether they feel ashamed , because they should be !

Corbyn, the arch apologist for such people has been suspended from the Labour Party and the current leader of that party has finally undertaken to deal with it. He never fulfilled his dreams and it is a great thing that enough people stood up against the engrained racism of those who'd have followed him into another chapter in the bloody history of anti semitism and genocide.

What I've got to ask of the hardcore here who thought they could justify anti semitism is whether they will publicly and voluntarily disassociate themselves from Labour now, or wait till they are rooted out and exposed by Starmer's new policy of expelling them ?

They know EXACTLY who they are, and if they have one shred of human decency ,they should admit that they were seduced by the age old fanaticism of " racial purity" and seek some form of counselling with a view to redemption.

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Sorry, my level of hostility to pathetic, bigoted trolls like you is undiminished. I have never used terms like 'your sort' or 'you people' but if I did in your direction I would make clear it was about people who peddle UKIP-lite bile, approve antisemitic tropes about George Soros, promote a hierarchy of racism, are apologists for ethnic cleansing and apartheid, call Israeli Jewish cartoonists 'Nazis', and invent quotes from others in order to denounce them! If you think anyone else on here has justified antisemitism (apart from Organ Morgan maybe - he doesn't accept the term!) show us where. Hens teeth!

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

No problem. All you have to do in my case is point to the terms "your sort" and "you people" and I will happily apologise. In case you can't then just say sorry before you scoot back to your echo chamber!

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Youve only got to read back through this thread.
It's there and it's a matter of record, however much you misrepresent the dialogue which took place. Which phrases you happen to use I'm not sure but you were certainly in the group of arch deniers.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Sorry, my level of hostility to pathetic, bigoted trolls like you is undiminished. I have never used terms like 'your sort' or 'you people' but if I did in your direction I would make clear it was about people who peddle UKIP-lite bile, approve antisemitic tropes about George Soros, promote a hierarchy of racism, are apologists for ethnic cleansing and apartheid, call Israeli Jewish cartoonists 'Nazis', and invent quotes from others in order to denounce them! If you think anyone else on here has justified antisemitism (apart from Organ Morgan maybe - he doesn't accept the term!) show us where. Hens teeth!

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So, Jewish people who don't like Soros are anti Semitic ? As for the rest of it about cartoonists and ethnic cleansing, that's nothing to do with me.
Interesting if entirely false allegations. What are you saying now? That Jewish people were the ones who supported the holocaust ? I've heard that before too, but it says more about you than anything else.

In any case, the case is proven now , so you can spend as many years in denial as you like. The people know the truth of what lies behind it all and I'm glad to say they don't support it, so I'm sure you won't deceive them again.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fWJmVYqKcUAhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fWJmVYqKcUA

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Originally Posted by RonnieBird

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fWJmVYqKcUAhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fWJmVYqKcUA

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Oy Vavoy

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Oy Vavoy

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Unbelievable !
At least you don't try and hide behind weasel words though.

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Originally Posted by RonnieBird

Unbelievable !
At least you don't try and hide behind weasel words though.

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No weasel words from me Sir Jim, I won't reverse ferret.

Nice to have you back by the way, Ive missed our banter.

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Originally Posted by RonnieBird

Youve only got to read back through this thread.
It's there and it's a matter of record, however much you misrepresent the dialogue which took place. Which phrases you happen to use I'm not sure but you were certainly in the group of arch deniers.

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Funny that. Apart from pointing out that there was no general election in 2006 my only contribution to this thread was to call your early posts the work of a third rate wind-up merchant.

Having seen some of your subsequent contributions I fear this could be considered libellous....by any proper third rate wind up merchants that read them.

"" those who deny there is a problem are part of the problem ""

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Originally Posted by life on mars

"" those who deny there is a problem are part of the problem ""

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

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*Originally Posted by*life on mars*

"" those who deny there is a problem are part of the problem ""

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Originally Posted by life on mars

*Originally Posted by*life on mars*

"" those who deny there is a problem are part of the problem ""

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

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How long do you think before LoM comes up with some indefensible bull where someone will post Keir Starmer's words back to him. I'll give it less than a fortnight!

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

How long do you think before LoM comes up with some indefensible bull where someone will post Keir Starmer's words back to him. I'll give it less than a fortnight!

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You do not like the truth do you , hey man up it happened Labour were caught , hopefully the man in charge can now clean up the party once again and bounce out Boris .

Seems to happen every decade or so.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

You do not like the truth do you , hey man up it happened Labour were caught , hopefully the man in charge can now clean up the party once again and bounce out Boris .

Seems to happen every decade or so.

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Let's just call it as it is... LoM is thick. Not a bit thick. Thick. He's constantly wrong and when it's pointed out he either ignores it, waits for someone else to reply so he can hang onto their coat tails and agree with their post or he simply responds with something irrelevant to your post.

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Not doing anything to dispel my point are ya, LoM?

You seem to one a one-man crusade to convince yourself that you're proving a point about the people who usually disagree with you on here are defending Corbyn and Labour in light of the report's findings. Yet you've been asked to point out which posts in this thread have done that and you've just gone off on tangents.

I look forward to your well thought out response :-)

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Not doing anything to dispel my point are ya, LoM?

You seem to one a one-man crusade to convince yourself that you're proving a point about the people who usually disagree with you on here are defending Corbyn and Labour in light of the report's findings. Yet you've been asked to point out which posts in this thread have done that and you've just gone off on tangents.

I look forward to your well thought out response :-)

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I think he's written so much contradictory and poisionous shit on here that the only way to stop his head exploding is to project views onto people that don't hold them to make him feel better.

I mean if you held a consistent view that anti-semitism in all its forms is abhorrent why would you dismiss a massacre at a US synagogue by blithely saying that this thing has been going on since Billy the Kid so nothing to see here. A question it seems he finds impossible to answer.

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

I think he's written so much contradictory and poisionous shit on here that the only way to stop his head exploding is to project views onto people that don't hold them to make him feel better.

I mean if you held a consistent view that anti-semitism in all its forms is abhorrent why would you dismiss a massacre at a US synagogue by blithely saying that this thing has been going on since Billy the Kid so nothing to see here. A question it seems he finds impossible to answer.

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Summed up nicely, Cyril.

He also posted that "Jewish Americans especially in New York state and the Eastern Seaboard have huge infrastructures , finance and influence."

He also repeatedly referred to Jewish people as "The Jew".

Ronnie Bird jumped to his defence on every occasion, despite being critical of everyone else and calling them anti-Semitic (but, like LoM, was guilty of attributing words to people who never posted them).

If the anti-Semitism issue had involved the Tory party, LoM wouldn't have breathed a word about it (neither would Ronnie Bird) because neither of them care about the issue really, they are just using it to beat up the Labour Party.

LoM has posted more obvious racism on CCMB in the last few years than anyone else that I can think of.

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Not doing anything to dispel my point are ya, LoM?

You seem to one a one-man crusade to convince yourself that you're proving a point about the people who usually disagree with you on here are defending Corbyn and Labour in light of the report's findings. Yet you've been asked to point out which posts in this thread have done that and you've just gone off on tangents.

I look forward to your well thought out response :-)

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Always tell when you hit a brickwall with your argument , just to help the Labour in its current state believes it past version held antisemitism views it probably exits with certain supporters who are still in denial.

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Summed up nicely, Cyril.

He also posted that "Jewish Americans especially in New York state and the Eastern Seaboard have huge infrastructures , finance and influence."

He also repeatedly referred to Jewish people as "The Jew".

Ronnie Bird jumped to his defence on every occasion, despite being critical of everyone else and calling them anti-Semitic (but, like LoM, was guilty of attributing words to people who never posted them).

If the anti-Semitism issue had involved the Tory party, LoM wouldn't have breathed a word about it (neither would Ronnie Bird) because neither of them care about the issue really, they are just using it to beat up the Labour Party.

LoM has posted more obvious racism on CCMB in the last few years than anyone else that I can think of.

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Still in denial its very sad you can't raise yourself beyond selective views , Labour party found guilty on counts , best you grab a new cause as the new Labour party doesn't fit your narrow narrative

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Still in denial its very sad you can't raise yourself beyond selective views , Labour party found guilty on counts , best you grab a new cause as the new Labour party doesn't fit your narrow narrative

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What are you on about? "denial"? I've posted my views already in the thread that TOBW posted. If you were genuinely bothered by people's views on the matter you would have seen that I said that the result of the enquiry "...was pretty damning." and also said
"Can Corbyn keep his position within the party after this? If he stays on it will be an albatross around the neck of Labour, surely."

Which part of that is in denial, LoM? You can't just keep using words that you don't understand to prove a point that doesn't exist.

Myself and Cyril are merely pointing out that you're the last person who should be throwing around comments about racism after the history of racist posts that you've made on here.

You still can't come up with a response to Cyril asking you why you referred to Billy The Kid after the murder of 11 Jewish people in a Synagogue. Give it a try, why don't you? Or are you...



In denial?

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Always tell when you hit a brickwall with your argument , just to help the Labour in its current state believes it past version held antisemitism views it probably exits with certain supporters who are still in denial.

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Word soup again. No idea what you're on about.

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Summed up nicely, Cyril.

He also posted that "Jewish Americans especially in New York state and the Eastern Seaboard have huge infrastructures , finance and influence."

He also repeatedly referred to Jewish people as "The Jew".

Ronnie Bird jumped to his defence on every occasion, despite being critical of everyone else and calling them anti-Semitic (but, like LoM, was guilty of attributing words to people who never posted them).

If the anti-Semitism issue had involved the Tory party, LoM wouldn't have breathed a word about it (neither would Ronnie Bird) because neither of them care about the issue really, they are just using it to beat up the Labour Party.

LoM has posted more obvious racism on CCMB in the last few years than anyone else that I can think of.

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Tbf most of LoM's messageboard heroes are closet or card carrying anti-semites. WB spent pages defending the Unite the Right torchlit Rally that chanted "Jews will not replace us" and regularly sounds off about George Soros as some kind of shylock-like maniputator. Organ Morgan is a full fat holocaust denier and Bilderburg/Goldman Sachs conspiracy screamer yet all we hear from LoM is how sad he is that he no longer articulates his views here.

To understand the absurdity and hypocrisy of his position the core element of the Labour Party debacle about anti-semitism was that it allowed people to think that the perceived sins of the Israeli state gave free rein to people who may have detrimental views about Jewish people more generally to feel comfortable in articulating them.

Yet LoM, however much he denies or tries to ignore it, is on record as saying he will never buy a Chinese takeaway from them because what they did around Covid.

Same racist message as the one he spends hours trying to project onto others without a scintilla of evidence to support.

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

Tbf most of LoM's messageboard heroes are closet or card carrying anti-semites. WB spent pages defending the Unite the Right torchlit Rally that chanted "Jews will not replace us" and regularly sounds off about George Soros as some kind of shylock-like maniputator. Organ Morgan is a full fat holocaust denier and Bilderburg/Goldman Sachs conspiracy screamer yet all we hear from LoM is how sad he is that he no longer articulates his views here.

To understand the absurdity and hypocrisy of his position the core element of the Labour Party debacle about anti-semitism was that it allowed people to think that the perceived sins of the Israeli state gave free rein to people who may have detrimental views about Jewish people more generally to feel comfortable in articulating them.

Yet LoM, however much he denies or tries to ignore it, is on record as saying he will never buy a Chinese takeaway from them because what they did around Covid.

Same racist message as the one he spends hours trying to project onto others without a scintilla of evidence to support.

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We should give LoM the benefit of the doubt on his impeccable non-racist credentials. Here was his view on getting a Chinese takeaway and the context (he always gets taken out of it).

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I will officially never want to eat Chinese ever again .

They can stick thier noodles as far up there back end as possible.

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https://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.ph...y-robbing-gets

I think it is only fair if we give LOM an opportunity to apologise for his racist and misogynistic posts.

This has hurt you all your wonderful Labour party with its appalling behaviour ,it has put in power the biggest clown in history , what an achievement

I've never pretending to be all inclusive or display righteousness as a this awful political party did .

People don't vote for me Labpur party however should be beyond this behaviour, and better than me .


Try and get over your loss and be mean enough to realise your party let you and so many of its core supporters down.

You can pick out as many of my quotes as you like I really don't care , politicians however are supposed to be beyond this behavour ,better than me, and lead by example, being found guilty of 23 counts is appalling , and your new leader thinks the same , bd has said so,
and good on him , and yes he will need to become a lite version of Blair to get into power, which will, hurt ,enjoy the ride, its called democracy ,will of the people has won thank god and the project is over, just a few more suspensions or removals to go to add to the removal of Bailey , Nadia Whittome, Corbyn ,Williamson and the dreadful Livingstone ,,clear em out I say .

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I think it is only fair if we give LOM an opportunity to apologise for his racist and misogynistic posts.

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Not about me ,your moving the goalposts just shows how weak your arguments are on this matter, Labour is guilty on all counts 23 of them .

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Not about me ,your moving the goalposts just shows how weak your arguments are on this matter, Labour is guilty on all counts 23 of them .

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

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you suggesting this didn't happen, man up admit your a busted flush with your silly hikd like replies

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Originally Posted by life on mars

you suggesting this didn't happen, man up admit your a busted flush with your silly hikd like replies

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What's wrong with my silly hikd like replies?

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

What's wrong with my silly hikd like replies?

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"" those who fail to recognise there is a problem , are part of the problem "

Just in case you have forgotten the OP with your petty moving the goalposts it was : (Jewish group walks away from Labour)

Your lack of comment to the issue , speak volumes .

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Originally Posted by life on mars

"" those who fail to recognise there is a problem , are part of the problem "

Just in case you have forgotten the OP with your petty moving the goalposts it was : (Jewish group walks away from Labour)

Your lack of comment to the issue , speak volumes .

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Oh do f**k off you sanctimonious little c**t :hehe:

Aren't there some Chinese restaurants or some brown people born in the UK that you deem not to be "natural born British" that you can have a go at?

I've said my piece on the anti-Semitism issue, I've already reminded you once what my views were - you keep choosing to ignore it because it doesn't suit your narrative (which is that you want me to defend Corbyn... and I haven't).

I've called you out on dozens of examples of bigotry and misogyny (including the defence of paedophiles and other sexual predators) which make you the last person on here that I'd take shit from about the anti-Semitism issue - even if I had defended Corbyn!

You're really struggling without the backup of the other scumbags on here, aren't you?

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Oh do f**k off you sanctimonious little c**t :hehe:

Aren't there some Chinese restaurants or some brown people born in the UK that you deem not to be "natural born British" that you can have a go at?

I've said my piece on the anti-Semitism issue, I've already reminded you once what my views were - you keep choosing to ignore it because it doesn't suit your narrative (which is that you want me to defend Corbyn... and I haven't).

I've called you out on dozens of examples of bigotry and misogyny (including the defence of paedophiles and other sexual predators) which make you the last person on here that I'd take shit from about the anti-Semitism issue - even if I had defended Corbyn!

You're really struggling without the backup of the other scumbags on here, aren't you?

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There we """Oh do f**k off you sanctimonious little c**t " go the old nasty side of socialism , inclusiveness for all , and hard man behind a keyboard .

That's me done on this one ( game set and match )

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Originally Posted by life on mars

There we """Oh do f**k off you sanctimonious little c**t " go the old nasty side of socialism , inclusiveness for all , and hard man behind a keyboard .

That's me done on this one ( game set and match )

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If those words hurt you more than the ones where I called you a bigot/racist/misogynist/paedophile defender... you've not only lost the argument, you've lost the f**king plot :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

If those words hurt you more than the ones where I called you a bigot/racist/misogynist/paedophile defender... you've not only lost the argument, you've lost the f**king plot :hehe:

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But he fessed up to some of that in this late night outburst, probably posted just after Lynchburg, Tennessee got called for Trump

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I've never pretending to be all inclusive or display righteousness as a this awful political party did .

People don't vote for me Labpur party however should be beyond this behaviour, and better than me .

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But he fessed up to some of that in this late night outburst, probably posted just after Lynchburg, Tennessee got called for Trump

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I think that post is probably still hungover :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

I think that post is probably still hungover :hehe:

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shame on you both trivialising this matter ,explains a lot .

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Originally Posted by life on mars

shame on you both trivialising this matter ,explains a lot .

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Sorry, thought you had taken your tennis racquet away after game set and match.

What I am not trivialising are two things.

Any shred of evidence that I have posted, supported or condoned anti-semitism in the Labour Party and

Copious amounts of evidence that you are a racist, misogynist.

Now if you have proof to support the former or to disprove the latter then put up or shut up.