Precisely, they are ****ed on this issue and have to carry on holding their nose and accept that, eventually, they will be on the wrong side of history and have questions to answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
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Precisely, they are ****ed on this issue and have to carry on holding their nose and accept that, eventually, they will be on the wrong side of history and have questions to answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I want to know what you were doing there ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
Counting the kids Israel and Palestine conflict 2000 until today.
https://countingthekids.org/
That’s children’s mind, unbelievably barbaric and inhumane :frown:
Don't know how long they are in place but had to sign official secrets act back then so I, m keeping schtumQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Whose implying it is?Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Of course it isn't, although I'm not entirely comfortable with fat middle aged men singing about the Battle of the Boyne, or being up to their knees in Fenian blood from over 300 years ago.
Your nuance on the blip again or the similarities don't quite suit your narrative?
I've observed one and the social events around it. It was interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
Nothing to report as dangerous as your experience thankfully.
I would be genuinely interested to see any references you could provide from the Gospels (i.e. the New Testament) which demonstrate this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
Bloody hell lets just say it as it is Jews are not liked even though they are probably the most persecuted race on earth since Christ ..
Labour and left organisations are aligned to Muslins.
This effects Labours policy on immigration ,small boats etc etc
Labour has a history of pro Palestinian no matter what happens.
Labour will sit in the room with Hamas . Hezbollah, attend rally's , funerals etc etc .
Labour doesn't seem to bring together a plan or view for that region as it fits their voting narratives in Muslim areas so its best to appear anti Israel , USA .
Has the party changed since Anti Semitism row , probably mnot its just hidden .
If you want to test my theory try and hold a pro Israel march / event for Oct 7th atrocities or other deaths in that region .
Hate to admit this I'd rather Corbyn's honesty on the matter above instead of the say nothing approach or hold ones nose as this will play out in the run up to the GE in the Tories favour.
this sums it up so well
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jews-Dont-C.../dp/0008399476
David Baddiel’s account the abuse he and his dad received was appalling
To this day jews in UK have to have security at schools and graves are desecrated more so of other faiths
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jews-Dont-C.../dp/0008399476
"Jews are the only objects of racism who are imagined – by the racists – as both low and high status. Jews are stereotyped, by the racists, in all the same ways that other minorities are – as lying, thieving, dirty, vile, stinking – but also as moneyed, privileged, powerful and secretly in control of the world. Jews are somehow both sub-human and humanity’s secret master"
" It doesn’t matter how rich you are, because the racists will smash in the door of your big house that they know you don’t deserve anyway and only own because you’re Jews."
" But to these ears, the reflex need always to follow the phrase anti-Semitism with ‘and all types of racism’ is the left’s All Lives Matter."
I was reading something the other day that micro plastics might cause Alzheimer's, have you been eating bubble wrap for dinner again?Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
What a load of nonsense.
Well done on discovering Jews face racism.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
read the book .Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
Try not absorb everything Hamas or the left report or tell you , they are as bad as the other sides for fake news m, equally capable of manipulating caring folk , using innocents to gain popularity with the media , even at the expense of their death Hamas has no interest in Palestine without the conflict there are a bust flush who would have to turn to crime as we know it , there is a very a very worrying aspect to why it was Oct 7th this that goes way beyond Israel and Gaza innocents.
read the book ,take the blinkers off , if your a supporter of Hamas i feel sorry for youQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
You really are a sad twat aren't you.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
I understand you have a compulsion to troll the board, but there is no need to accuse people of being Hamas supporters because they call out your bullshit.
He needs to ****off, and i don't think that i have ever thought that about someone on here. Mike should get rid of him, he's nothing more than a ****.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Bit late in calling out personal abuse aren't you guys?
Labour will attend funeralsQuote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
What are you talking about ?
Are you smoking crack ?
Matthew 5: 38-42Quote:
Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
If people are supporters of Hamas simply because they are heartbroken at seeing daily images of innocent souls, predominantly, children being slaughtered in the hundreds day after day by a brutal, bloodthirsty war machine and without even the most rudimentary means of defence then you're out of touch with both reality and humanity.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Collective punishment of the weak by the strong is a war crime.
you do understand the whole point of hamas going full medieval was to provoke a massive backlash don't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
It takes two to tango.Quote:
Originally Posted by + the native hipster
Eh? That's the complete opposite of an eye-for-an-eye philosophy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ 39 But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. 41 If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. 42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.”
Please keep the bible , religion , the Koran and all the other cobblers out of this
All that is what has got the middle east in the mess its in in the first place
Ok I haven't read it as extensively as you so I concede. However the notion of revenge being a legitimate reaction to attack was prevent within the community of the Holy Land in those times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
Let the Tango begin. Hamas doesn't give a flying feck about innocent Palestines. You'd have to a fool not realise that Hamas knows when they attack Israel the backlash follows and innocent Palestinian people die, that makes them as evil as Israel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
Turn the lights on, this is a simply a proxy war.. Iran is petrified that Saudi is willing to cosy up to Israel. That's it in a nutshell.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
ObviouslyQuote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
try again, you do understand that full going full medieval would provoke a massive responseQuote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
Not necessarily. The enlightened amongst us are aware of the fine old attribute self-restraint. That'll lern 'em!Quote:
Originally Posted by + the native hipster
Why obviously?Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
No one disagrees for a moment that they are horrific, evil terrorists and I quite agree they have no regard for the welfare of their own people. The answer to this conflict lies within the centre ground and not with the two sets of extreme protagonists on the periphery.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
The ( Hamas)-run Gazan Health Ministry said more than 7,000 people have died.
Those figures cannot be independently verified.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
Totally agree the Palestinians should give them up .
Then democratic elections begin run by the UN .
Israel then forced to accept the Palestinian states existence.
Israel then seperates itself from them .
Palestinian then allows independent UN checks to take place over a 10 year period to stop any organisation arming themselves or building tunnels under civilians .
First incursion taken by any Palestinian force thr deal is dead and Israel ceases the land .
Bet you Hamas ( aka Iran /Isis / Jihad ) would never agree to a peaceful solution as this is about continuing the Islamic cause against the evil West.
Soon as Saudi got closer to Israel this occurred, ask yourself why ?.
Why wouldn't you bet me Israel wouldn't agree to a peaceful solution?Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
I don't need to ask myself why the initial terrorist attack occurred after overtures between the Saudis and Israel. Hamas is sponsored by Iran which is religiously opposed to the Saudis, apart from political issues. I don't know enough about the nuances of Islamic sectarian beliefs and policies but I do know the Saudis are no saints themselves. Perhaps Hamas thought the Palestinian people would be sold down the river in any deal involving the Saudis
If you are pinning your hopes on a long lasting solution to this hitherto intractable problem involving exclusively an Israel/Saudi bi partisan deal with US sponsorship then I think you are naiive in the extreme. Any deal that will stick will need to include Iran because, like it or loathe it, it has skin in this game.
So naturally you doubt the figure! Does it make you feel more at ease with the carnage and suffering?Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
https://x.com/toryfibs/status/171778...LhmySD2aRt-GNg
Baroness Warsi is on point here she has also , spoke out about Islamophobia in british politics/her party in the past
She used to be a right wing tory but she's clearly following her brainQuote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Should be a Liberal really , certainly more in the middle than starmer the hopeless idiot .....although I think he's caught in no man's land to be fair to him
Israel stepping things up.
Yup, not nice, saw some horrible stuff on X before I came out, how and where does this end?.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
I guess, with the total destruction of Hamas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathblue
The problem with that is if the Gaza strip is also totally destroyed along the way, it's possible you just create more Hamas's of the world.
I have no idea where it's going.