No wonder that people are pissed off and don't bother listening anymore. These two lunatics are blathering on and losing their audience.
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No wonder that people are pissed off and don't bother listening anymore. These two lunatics are blathering on and losing their audience.
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'We are sticking to the regional model, England is now considered one region'Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Hopeless, isn’t it? Absolutely ****ing hopeless. It seems these people have learned nothing at all during the last seven months about messaging and communication with the public.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Morris
What should they be saying? The first lockdown relied on people being scared and it seems to me that they're hoping for the same thing again.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
A great deal less. And what they do say they should be saying far more concisely and clearly. A multitude of complicated slides with two ‘experts’ droning on and on helps nobody.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Is someone going to ask him is he going to resign.
He locked down too late last time and the useless tw@t has done it again. No acknowledgement either that hes got it wrong again.
Those feckin slides are doing my head in.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Agree with you about the slides, I couldn't make head nor tail of most of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Almost like that's the point!Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Whitty 'there are no good solutions all solutions are bad'. They really are Professor Doom and Gloom.
He's combed his hair hasn't he - things must be serious. He's not being "Boris".
Quite. What we really need is another uplifting message from Johnson saying a world-beating Test and Trace system is just around the corner. Feel reassured already!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Neither has Boris since about September.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Weve already got a world class track and trace.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
I think you will find that the one just around the corner that will really sort things out this time is even better...Duh!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Things will be better by Spring. Boris says so. Something to look forward to I suppose.
It is a great unknown I guess , listening to the scientists tonight they use the words like projects, modelling, predicting , I hope they have it right as others will suffer from non Covid health issues , can't wait to see the review if this ever ends .Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
has anyone got oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
I missed the start of the press conference.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Usually I find the slides Messrs Vallance and Whitty produce fairly clear.
I was going to have a look because Sky has the option of going back for the last hour but because they stopped the conference on BBC 1 ( can't delay Strictly for a national emergency can we)I switched to the BBC News channel and can't now see the start.
I'll take your word for it though
Show a bunch of slides suggesting young people are spreading the virus only to then announce you're keeping the universities and colleges open
Genius.
No idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
We were told we were having one though.
The slides were deliberately over-complicated to try and mask the fact that the reason we are where we are now was because of the political decisions that were made in that timeframe.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
.but the slides are a feature of the 'modelling' , which SAGE etc. have been so committed to since day 1. What the slides don't illustrate is that practically every prediction that they have made has been significantly wrong. As many epidemiologists disagree with SAGE as agree with them, but tonight the BBC brought out at least half a dozen different ones all saying the same. I can understand to a degree why the main news channels desist from airing views and opinions that may run counter to the Govt's/SAGE's message, but - not just in the UK, but in Germany, France, Spain, Italy - there's a growing consensus that the incumbent scientists and governments are 'winging it'. No real idea how to beat the virus, but too far down the road to change direction..Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
https://fullfact.org/health/coronavi...boris-johnson/Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
"" those who deny there is a problem are part of the problem ""Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Two weeks....barely two hours
Id rather watch the rugby than watch a replay of that and i feckin hate rugby.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elwood Blues
and the furlough system gets extended
Hmm didn't Andy Burnham the Manchester Mayor plead for this to happen just 2 weeks ago when they went into tier 3
not fair on the people that lost there jobs at the end of the last one
Didn't he say at one point many many moons ago that the whole thing would be over in 12 weeks?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Or was it 12 blue moons in a month of Sundays?Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
I don't think the virus will ever be over. It's like the flu. You can vaccinate against it but still people get it and die from it.
Somehow we are going to have to live it providing mortality rates can be kept to acceptable levels whatever figure that might be.
dont be bringing me into it...
Like the flu, this virus will have no vaccine only something to hopefully suppress it.
So we need to accept this and all learn to live with it, be sensible adhere to the 2 metre rule, masks the jury is out if they actually do anything 🤔
Protect the vulnerable and elderly but we cannot expect them to shield indefinitely and be locked away. So I would have supermarket's, shop's and DIY stores at least two days a week be for the people who need to shield to get out and do their shopping, have a cup of tea in a cafe something to eat and feel relatively safe while the rest of us respect and not be selfish aragont #$%$#........
We need to start learning to live with this virus.
The one just around the corner is already here and you get it at Boots for £180 a test. Over 95% accurateQuote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Pleased to see that the army being called upon to aid distribution of it for the NHS and of course it will be free. Not saying it will be a game changer but to be able to be tested minutes ahead of seeing relatives in a nursing home or similar could make a big difference to people with results in 15 minutes.
Hope we get it here in Wales
10m tests a day he said. Hes said a lot of things though.Quote:
Originally Posted by lisvaneblue
There is a Flu vaccine and it's very effective most yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by Its been emotional
No there is no vaccine they estimate what strength the strain is going to be and inject you with the strain to build antibodies.
Why would you need the jab yearly?
An injection that contains weakened or killed strains of a virus to enable your body to develop an immunity to it is called a vaccine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Its been emotional
Most flu vaccines are quadrivalent, that is they contain weakened or killed virus from the four most commonly strains of flu around at the time
vaccine
/ˈvaksiːn,ˈvaksɪn/
noun
a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.
"there is no*vaccine against*the virus"