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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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Originally Posted by
stevo
If I was angry I wouldn't be going so easy on you.
You've found something that interests you, it's obviously a welcome diversion from seriously examining the claims of Christ and/ or having a robust world view, so I await anything you can present (within your telepathic sphere) that deals with any of mankinds deepest needs and can be examined as tangibly in the same manner the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ can?
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
As the content was a tad fluffy I looked up a synopsis of the tests concerned and, as a result of what I read and knowing about James Randy's challenge, I wasn't interested enough to spend more time returning to the podcast series.
Similarly, the claims on the internet a few days ago about columns under the pyramids seemed rather fanciful when scrutinised.
I'm not sure what you mean by fluffy. The podcast is narrated by Ky Dickens who is a journalist. All she is doing is covering important scientific work being undertaken by a Dr Diane Powell, whose research has shown beyond doubt that many autistic children have telepathic capabilities and can prove this with 100% success rates.
https://thetelepathytapes.com/
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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Mrs Steve R
I'm on part 10 of the Telepathy tapes and like you say it's fascinating, no spoilers but part 9 is a tough one, very moving and makes you think.
Yes, it's heart-breaking to think that these people go through their entire lives being completely misunderstood by the "experts" and treated as no-hopers.
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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Originally Posted by
stevo
I'm not sure what you mean by fluffy. The podcast is narrated by Ky Dickens who is a journalist. All she is doing is covering important scientific work being undertaken by a Dr Diane Powell, whose research has shown beyond doubt that many autistic children have telepathic capabilities and can prove this with 100% success rates.
https://thetelepathytapes.com/
What are your thoughts on the Wikipedia page that includes the screed:
"After seeing the short video clips from the website, both Jonathan Jarry of the McGill University Office for Science and Society and psychologist Stuart Vyse independently concluded the tests are derived from the rapid prompting method, a variation of the scientifically discredited technique of facilitated communication. For Vyse and Jarry, with the parent holding the board that the child needs to point to construct a response, or holding the child themselves, the most likely explanation is that the parent is steering the child to the right answer, consciously or not (through the ideomotor effect).[2][12] About facilitated communication techniques, the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry states that "studies have repeatedly demonstrated that FC is not a scientifically valid technique for individuals with autism"; the American Psychological Association and the American Academy of Pediatrics also published position statements against their use.[12][13] The Association for Science in Autism Treatment issued a statement supporting Vyse's conclusions: "the Telepathy Tapes podcast spreads misinformation about the authenticity of facilitated communication and the presence of paranormal abilities in nonspeaking autistic individuals."[1]
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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Originally Posted by
stevo
I'm not sure what you mean by fluffy. The podcast is narrated by Ky Dickens who is a journalist. All she is doing is covering important scientific work being undertaken by a Dr Diane Powell, whose research has shown beyond doubt that many autistic children have telepathic capabilities and can prove this with 100% success rates.
https://thetelepathytapes.com/
I agree that this issue is fascinating and should be taken very seriously.
In what way/s do you think this research answers the big questions including life after physical death and how that will be for each individual?
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
What are your thoughts on the Wikipedia page that includes the screed:
"After seeing the short video clips from the website, both Jonathan Jarry of the McGill University Office for Science and Society and psychologist Stuart Vyse independently concluded the tests are derived from the rapid prompting method, a variation of the scientifically discredited technique of facilitated communication. For Vyse and Jarry, with the parent holding the board that the child needs to point to construct a response, or holding the child themselves, the most likely explanation is that the parent is steering the child to the right answer, consciously or not (through the ideomotor effect).[2][12] About facilitated communication techniques, the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry states that "studies have repeatedly demonstrated that FC is not a scientifically valid technique for individuals with autism"; the American Psychological Association and the American Academy of Pediatrics also published position statements against their use.[12][13] The Association for Science in Autism Treatment issued a statement supporting Vyse's conclusions: "the Telepathy Tapes podcast spreads misinformation about the authenticity of facilitated communication and the presence of paranormal abilities in nonspeaking autistic individuals."[1]
They actually deal with that issue in the podcast series and it's not the only form of response used in the tests. It seems Jonathan Jarry and Stuart Vyse haven't done their due diligence here and are just keen to discredit it as it goes against everything they've believed in all their academic lives. This is true for all the topics I'd like to cover.
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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truthpaste
I agree that this issue is fascinating and should be taken very seriously.
In what way/s do you think this research answers the big questions including life after physical death and how that will be for each individual?
The telepathy tests have hinted towards a common consciousness (Ep. 2 iirc), due to the way thoughts appear to enter the minds of child and mother instantaneously. There are plenty of other lines of enquiry that hint towards this idea of a collective consciousness too. There's a lot to take and the only way my line of thinking will make sense to anyone is if we deal with each of these topics one at a time. And it will take time.
With that in mind, the topic of remote viewing would be the logical next step. But I don't think we're done yet on telepathy.
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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Originally Posted by
stevo
The telepathy tests have hinted towards a common consciousness (Ep. 2 iirc), due to the way thoughts appear to enter the minds of child and mother instantaneously. There are plenty of other lines of enquiry that hint towards this idea of a collective consciousness too. There's a lot to take and the only way my line of thinking will make sense to anyone is if we deal with each of these topics one at a time. And it will take time.
With that in mind, the topic of remote viewing would be the logical next step. But I don't think we're done yet on telepathy.
So far a collective consciousness is not a departure from God's claim that humans are distinct to the animal kingdom and have a spiritual dimension, an eternal essence and a conscience which would at some level be inter-connected.
Nevertheless do continue to share here as you get more information.
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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Originally Posted by
stevo
They actually deal with that issue in the podcast series and it's not the only form of response used in the tests. It seems Jonathan Jarry and Stuart Vyse haven't done their due diligence here and are just keen to discredit it as it goes against everything they've believed in all their academic lives. This is true for all the topics I'd like to cover.
OK. I don't know about those individuals.myself or about any vested interested they may have.
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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Originally Posted by
stevo
The telepathy tests have hinted towards a common consciousness (Ep. 2 iirc), due to the way thoughts appear to enter the minds of child and mother instantaneously. There are plenty of other lines of enquiry that hint towards this idea of a collective consciousness too. There's a lot to take and the only way my line of thinking will make sense to anyone is if we deal with each of these topics one at a time. And it will take time.
With that in mind, the topic of remote viewing would be the logical next step. But I don't think we're done yet on telepathy.
I agree, so what do you currently see as the conduit for this information?
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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truthpaste
I agree, so what do you currently see as the conduit for this information?
What information, the remote viewing stuff, telepathy or the common consciousness?
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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Originally Posted by
stevo
What information, the remote viewing stuff, telepathy or the common consciousness?
Any of it? For example the internet connects people across the world instantly and is now the norm, but it didn't just conveniently appear so we could send messages, images etc without being put in place and properly managed.
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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truthpaste
Any of it? For example the internet connects people across the world instantly and is now the norm, but it didn't just conveniently appear so we could send messages, images etc without being put in place and properly managed.
I've no idea what you're getting at there. But to answer your initial question:
Books (lots of them)
Journal articles
Documentaries
Podcasts
YouTube videos
all the usual places you get information and am happy to reference. But is there any point in referencing any of these things on here. Will anyone read, watch or listen to them? When I posted a link to the Telepathy Tapes, I got the feeling most people had already formed a judgement about the topic before listening to a single episode.
In the scientific world there is a small but growing number who realise it's time to break away from some of the long accepted scientific models, such as the materialistic big bang theory and evolution. A completely new way of thinking is required where attempts to find a grand unified theory have long failed.
And my view on reality can be explained by science rather than filling those gaps with God.
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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Originally Posted by
stevo
I've no idea what you're getting at there. But to answer your initial question:
Books (lots of them)
Journal articles
Documentaries
Podcasts
YouTube videos
all the usual places you get information and am happy to reference. But is there any point in referencing any of these things on here. Will anyone read, watch or listen to them? When I posted a link to the Telepathy Tapes, I got the feeling most people had already formed a judgement about the topic before listening to a single episode.
In the scientific world there is a small but growing number who realise it's time to break away from some of the long accepted scientific models, such as the materialistic big bang theory and evolution. A completely new way of thinking is required where attempts to find a grand unified theory have long failed.
And my view on reality can be explained by science rather than filling those gaps with God.
1. The man who knows God hasn't thrown ANY true science out of the window.
2. Science can often (not always) tell us the HOW, but really struggles with the WHY.
3. The bigger questions are of the 'WHY' type, so science has a glass ceiling which prevents the seeker from finding the answers they seek; all they can confirm is that something is happening?
My question above wasn't dismissing the Telepathy Tapes as I listened in particular to No.9; the question is this, given the unseen connections and definite links between individuals, who or what is responsible for the 'network' that makes these connections?
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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truthpaste
the question is this, given the unseen connections and definite links between individuals, who or what is responsible for the 'network' that makes these connections?
All living things, rather than some greater being or deity.
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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stevo
All living things, rather than some greater being or deity.
Yes, I'm more than aware you are being extra careful to leave yourself totally separate from a divine being you are accountable to.
However 'all living things' is as much a logical answer as every computer in 1995 suddenly connecting with each other without any planned world wide web!
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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truthpaste
Yes, I'm more than aware you are being extra careful to leave yourself totally separate from a divine being you are accountable to.
However 'all living things' is as much a logical answer as every computer in 1995 suddenly connecting with each other without any planned world wide web!
What is your fascination with cryptic references to the Internet?
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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stevo
What is your fascination with cryptic references to the Internet?
It's not complicated or even a mystery unless you've been on another planet since 1995?
I am using that (the internet) as an illustration because it is something we all use and are aware of. Now rather than suggest there is an issue with my choice of illustration, could you address the key issue of HOW all such living beings are potentially connected and how that 'system' came to be?
Thanks.
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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truthpaste
It's not complicated or even a mystery unless you've been on another planet since 1995?
I am using that (the internet) as an illustration because it is something we all use and are aware of. Now rather than suggest there is an issue with my choice of illustration, could you address the key issue of HOW all such living beings are potentially connected and how that 'system' came to be?
Thanks.
I was using the Internet before 1995. I think I'm done with your condescending tone. I'm sure Jesus never spoke like that.
Thanks.
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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stevo
I was using the Internet before 1995. I think I'm done with your condescending tone. I'm sure Jesus never spoke like that.
Thanks.
Jesus called a spade a spade, He would accuse you of entertaining 'doctrines of demons'. I paid you respect by watching your videos and listening to a number of your audio tapes and asking you about them; recently I've been asking you one simple question a few different ways and you've evaded the question every time; so I must conclude you have no idea how to answer and are simply enjoying the latest distraction on offer.
My apologies for confusing you with someone who really wanted to know the answer to the (main discussion) question.
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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Originally Posted by
truthpaste
Jesus called a spade a spade, He would accuse you of entertaining 'doctrines of demons'. I paid you respect by watching your videos and listening to a number of your audio tapes and asking you about them; recently I've been asking you one simple question a few different ways and you've evaded the question every time; so I must conclude you have no idea how to answer and are simply enjoying the latest distraction on offer.
My apologies for confusing you with someone who really wanted to know the answer to the (main discussion) question.
Speaking on behalf of Jesus now, are you? We are honoured!
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Speaking on behalf of Jesus now, are you? We are honoured!
Christians have been doing that for almost 2000 years, well spotted.
If His Word is quoted appropriately then there's no issue, if it's simply someone's opinion then it's probably irrelevant.
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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truthpaste
Christians have been doing that for almost 2000 years, well spotted.
If His Word is quoted appropriately then there's no issue, if it's simply someone's opinion then it's probably irrelevant.
That’s your opinion is it?
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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truthpaste
Christians have been doing that for almost 2000 years, well spotted.
If His Word is quoted appropriately then there's no issue, if it's simply someone's opinion then it's probably irrelevant.
This is why it is impossible to have a discussion with you,you are correct all of the time very predictable.
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Re: "I'm convinced that death is not the end for us whatever happens after that"
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
That’s your opinion is it?
It's God's Word to His Church:
"If anyone speaks, they should do so as one who speaks the very words of God. If anyone serves, they should do so with the strength God provides, so that in all things God may be praised through Jesus Christ. To him be the glory and the power for ever and ever. Amen" - 1 Peter 4:11
