Coronavirus: overhyped fear-mongering or potential mega doom?

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

Are you still a bit sore about the whole 'Plandemic' thing? It looks like you're still sore.

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I'm not sore at all. This place is reserved for entertainment purposes only.

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

I'm not sore at all. This place is reserved for entertainment purposes only.

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Keep up the entertainment then, Organ.

We're eagerly awaiting 'Plandemic 2: Electric Boogaloo'.

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

I'm not sore at all. This place is reserved for entertainment purposes only.

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You have been wonderful entertainment with your confident but terrible predictions and scoops.

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

I'm not sore at all. This place is reserved for entertainment purposes only.

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In fairness you have provided plenty of entertainment with the plandemic, it was a shame you disappeared for 5 days after it mind. I was worried you'd be assassinated for providing top secret info.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

In fairness you have provided plenty of entertainment with the plandemic, it was a shame you disappeared for 5 days after it mind. I was worried you'd be assassinated for providing top secret info.

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Be careful Morg it's a trap. Just because he put a 5 in the post doesn't mean that you were actually missing for 5 days.

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Originally Posted by lardy

You have been wonderful entertainment with your confident but terrible predictions and scoops.

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I read an online .pdf book last year filled with anecdotes from those who lived through the 30-month siege of Leningrad during WW2. There came a point where there was barely enough food to feed Red Army defenders; civilians were left to do the best they could for themselves. So many of the elderly, infirm and those without family support quietly starved to death. For the rest a survival instinct kicked in and when all pets and rodents had been consumed their attention turned toward their neighbours. The larger they were the more they were eyed.

The moral of this tale is if your username is a reference to your waist measurements then you may well receive unwelcome attention in a world where some resources quickly become unobtainable.

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

Be careful Morg it's a trap. Just because he put a 5 in the post doesn't mean that you were actually missing for 5 days.

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It's flattering that some take a keen interest in my posting history. They've been played well.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

In fairness you have provided plenty of entertainment with the plandemic, it was a shame you disappeared for 5 days after it mind. I was worried you'd be assassinated for providing top secret info.

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Many struggle to separate parody and satire from what's not in some of my output at this forum. I vaguely recall a comment made by you perhaps as long as a year ago in which you stated you had difficulty distinguishing. Because of your inability I continue to receive many bites from you which provide me with much amusement. Quite a few others have also been deliberately reeled in but most of them have become annoying as they're miles behind you cognitively speaking. One who's not is the Heisenberg character but is nevertheless quite tedious. I don't recall targeting him for some fun so am unaware what irritated him previously which is a shame because if I did know I'd play on that same weakness intermittently.

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

I read an online .pdf book last year filled with anecdotes from those who lived through the 30-month siege of Leningrad during WW2. There came a point where there was barely enough food to feed Red Army defenders; civilians were left to do the best they could for themselves. So many of the elderly, infirm and those without family support quietly starved to death. For the rest a survival instinct kicked in and when all pets and rodents had been consumed their attention turned toward their neighbours. The larger they were the more they were eyed.

The moral of this tale is if your username is a reference to your waist measurements then you may well receive unwelcome attention in a world where some resources quickly become unobtainable.

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Oh my god, I just saw that your post was made at 15.09. Does that mean 15th September? You understand these things so much better than me. How could you have posted this over six months ago?

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

It's flattering that some take a keen interest in my posting history. They've been played well.

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tbf you were sending out Party Invites to all Board Members asking them to bring a bottle to the particular post in question. It's not one to easily forget. I bought a crate of Koronaburg2015 especially which I am working my way through. Both the post and the drink help to brighten the day in these tough times and for that I thank you!

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

It's flattering that some take a keen interest in my posting history. They've been played well.

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Yeah you made us all look really stupid in that thread, well played :thumbup:

By Jove, the penny still hasn't dropped your end. You nor anyone else hereabout are in my head, so to speak. I don't follow any poster around or check when or at what intervals they submit messages.

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

By Jove, the penny still hasn't dropped your end. You nor anyone else hereabout are in my head, so to speak. I don't follow any poster around or check when or at what intervals they submit messages.

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

Many struggle to separate parody and satire from what's not in some of my output at this forum. I vaguely recall a comment made by you perhaps as long as a year ago in which you stated you had difficulty distinguishing.

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You sure?

If you can identify a contradiction in those two messages then you're trying too hard.

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Originally Posted by lardy

You have been wonderful entertainment with your confident but terrible predictions and scoops.

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You're the king of entertainment after giving three years of BS Russia collusion scoops :hehe:

From surveying what's unfolding, envisioning lockdowns without end in the UK, it's becoming easier by the week to understand that deagel.com's 2025 projections, which I posted earlier in this thread, may prove accurate and that Britain's economy and population will indeed decline to a greater extent in percentage terms than any other country worldwide will.

Here's the forecast again http://www.deagel.com/country/United-Kingdom_c0209.aspx for those who missed it.

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

From surveying what's unfolding, envisioning lockdowns without end in the UK, it's becoming easier by the week to understand that deagel.com's 2025 projections, which I posted earlier in this thread, may prove accurate and that Britain's economy and population will indeed decline to a greater extent in percentage terms than any other country worldwide will.

Here's the forecast again http://www.deagel.com/country/United-Kingdom_c0209.aspx for those who missed it.

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I think what is sure to happen is a huge hike in anything we purchase as it was after the recession and those prices never fell back back including as W.B pointed out recently the introduction of VAT to 20% never went back .

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

From surveying what's unfolding, envisioning lockdowns without end in the UK, it's becoming easier by the week to understand that deagel.com's 2025 projections, which I posted earlier in this thread, may prove accurate and that Britain's economy and population will indeed decline to a greater extent in percentage terms than any other country worldwide will.

Here's the forecast again http://www.deagel.com/country/United-Kingdom_c0209.aspx for those who missed it.

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Is there an explanation how the UK is going to shed 51 million people in the next 5 years?

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Is there an explanation how the UK is going to shed 51 million people in the next 5 years?

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This might help.

Another one of Morg's bogus sites feigning to be a credible source. Even though they have been at this for a number of years they overwrite the incorrect forecasts with new ones. Conspiracists are never wrong you know. Unfortunately some spark in that thread saved some of their historical inaccuracies for posterity.

https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/q...25-legit/39380

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

From surveying what's unfolding, envisioning lockdowns without end in the UK, it's becoming easier by the week to understand that deagel.com's 2025 projections, which I posted earlier in this thread, may prove accurate and that Britain's economy and population will indeed decline to a greater extent in percentage terms than any other country worldwide will.

Here's the forecast again http://www.deagel.com/country/United-Kingdom_c0209.aspx for those who missed it.

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The URL for that says 'c0209' so can we assume that it was written circa-209AD?

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Is there an explanation how the UK is going to shed 51 million people in the next 5 years?

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Plandemic I think

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Plandemic I think

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The authors of the estimate, who are of course nameless, specifically exclude the impact of any demic, be it pan or plan, in arriving at the figures.

As noted in the sceptical website I posted the narrative to the estimate, which has no provenance states:

We assume that the official data, especially economic, released by governments is fake, cooked or distorted in some degree.

ie Only illuminati know the true figures.

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

The authors of the estimate, who are of course nameless, specifically exclude the impact of any demic, be it pan or plan, in arriving at the figures.

As noted in the sceptical website I posted the narrative to the estimate, which has no provenance states:

We assume that the official data, especially economic, released by governments is fake, cooked or distorted in some degree.

ie Only illuminati know the true figures.

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We would need to lose on average 28,000 people per day everyday for 5 years to make that figure unless the Coronavirus and/or another cataclysm descends upon us.

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

We would need to lose on average 28,000 people per day everyday for 5 years to make that figure unless the Coronavirus and/or another cataclysm descends upon us.

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I particularly liked the precis of the website by one of the sceptical reviewers:

think of it this way: there is some random website out there that makes (1) extremely extraordinary claims, (2) they don't provide any sources or methodology as to how they managed to make these conclusions, (3) the origin and affiliations of this website are also unknown. Furthermore, (4) the only people who seem to take this seriously (instead of being skeptical like you) are people who run crackpot websites.

Presumably a crackpot website was where the tinfoil surfer picked it up in the first place.

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

I particularly liked the precis of the website by one of the sceptical reviewers:

think of it this way: there is some random website out there that makes (1) extremely extraordinary claims, (2) they don't provide any sources or methodology as to how they managed to make these conclusions, (3) the origin and affiliations of this website are also unknown. Furthermore, (4) the only people who seem to take this seriously (instead of being skeptical like you) are people who run crackpot websites.

Presumably a crackpot website was where the tinfoil surfer picked it up in the first place.

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A website quoted by people who claim they aren't as gullible as the rest of us.....

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

A website quoted by people who claim they aren't as gullible as the rest of us.....

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It wouldn't be the same if they didn't look down their noses at us gullible clots.

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Is there an explanation how the UK is going to shed 51 million people in the next 5 years?

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Yes, mass emigration post economic collapse. What's below is what was part of their explanation in 2017 but I'm unable to locate it there today. It offered no reasoning as to why their forecasts then resulted in a net loss of 500 million from what was the world's total population then (and is higher today). The purchasing power of currencies of those countries worst affected decline the most.

The collapse of the Western financial system will wipe out the standard of living of its population while ending ponzi schemes such as the stock exchange and the pension funds. The population will be hit so badly by a full array of bubbles and ponzi schemes that the migration engine will start to work in reverse accelerating itself due to ripple effects thus leading to the demise of the States....We see a significant part of the American population migrating to Latin America and Asia while migration to Europe - suffering a similar illness - won't be relevant.

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Originally Posted by lardy

It wouldn't be the same if they didn't look down their noses at us gullible clots.

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It's the impression they try to put across that they are never surprised by anything that happens as well - they knew it was going to happen, but they didn't bother saying anything beforehand.

The much loved Bill Gates seems very informed about all things virus and vaccine related.

Bill Gates: As things get back to ‘semi-normal,’ it’s impossible to overstate the pain that lies in the years ahead - https://www.marketwatch.com/story/bi...ead-2020-04-23

This quote stood out: ‘It is impossible to overstate the pain that people are feeling now and will continue to feel for years to come... No one who lives through Pandemic 1 will ever forget it.’

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

The much loved Bill Gates seems very informed about all things virus and vaccine related.

Bill Gates: As things get back to ‘semi-normal,’ it’s impossible to overstate the pain that lies in the years ahead - https://www.marketwatch.com/story/bi...ead-2020-04-23

This quote stood out: ‘It is impossible to overstate the pain that people are feeling now and will continue to feel for years to come... No one who lives through Pandemic 1 will ever forget it.’

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This is usually a fun game...

What are you implying?

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Is there an explanation how the UK is going to shed 51 million people in the next 5 years?

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Shed ??
Surely they will be culled ??

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

This is usually a fun game...

What are you implying?

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I hadn't heard anyone describe this COVID-19 outbreak as Pandemic 1 prior to reading his remarks. Had you? I think you should be infinitely more concerned about what he was implying.

In the full article at The Economist he doesn't qualify any of his remarks with I think/I believe. He has a habit of speaking about how the future will pan out with the air of someone who's not speculating. He also makes little effort to conceal his relish for the economic misery it will cause which he displayed again with those comments I pasted.

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

Yes, mass emigration post economic collapse. What's below is what was part of their explanation in 2017 but I'm unable to locate it there today. It offered no reasoning as to why their forecasts then resulted in a net loss of 500 million from what was the world's total population then (and is higher today). The purchasing power of currencies of those countries worst affected decline the most.

The collapse of the Western financial system will wipe out the standard of living of its population while ending ponzi schemes such as the stock exchange and the pension funds. The population will be hit so badly by a full array of bubbles and ponzi schemes that the migration engine will start to work in reverse accelerating itself due to ripple effects thus leading to the demise of the States....We see a significant part of the American population migrating to Latin America and Asia while migration to Europe - suffering a similar illness - won't be relevant.

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So 77% of the UK population will emigrate withing five years. 51 million people. Interesting.

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Is there an explanation how the UK is going to shed 51 million people in the next 5 years?

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4.78 million people in the UK are already living in sheds to maintain social isolation and have time away from their families. After just 4 weeks that is excellent progress towards the new World Order target of 51 million. The problem will be for people without a garden and the space to build a shed - but Bill Gates is developing an app for that and George Soros will fund it. I think you should give this prediction the consideration it deserves, and not dismiss it out of hand. It wasn't an accident that B&Q opened up again this week - it is all part of the masterplan!

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

So 77% of the UK population will emigrate withing five years. 51 million people. Interesting.

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I'm not suggesting deagel will be proved correct, only that the odds of them being accurate have shortened considerably since the turn of the year and are set to stay on that trajectory with every passing day of lockdown conditions.

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

I'm not suggesting deagel will be proved correct, only that the odds of them being accurate have shortened considerably since the turn of the year and are set to stay on that trajectory with every passing day of lockdown conditions.

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Let's be specific. Do you maintain that the loss of 51 million people in the UK is likely within 5 years? Tell us what odds that you put on it.

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

I hadn't heard anyone describe this COVID-19 outbreak as Pandemic 1 prior to reading his remarks. Had you? I think you should be infinitely more concerned about what he was implying.

In the full article at The Economist he doesn't qualify any of his remarks with I think/I believe. He has a habit of speaking about how the future will pan out with the air of someone who's not speculating. He also makes little effort to conceal his relish for the economic misery it will cause which he displayed again with those comments I pasted.

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I don't need to know what he's implying as it states in the article that your link is sourced from:

https://www.gatesnotes.com/

He has said that he thinks that it's first modern pandemic and has called it Pandemic 1 in his article. What the f**k are you taking from it that had got you so concerned?

You have read what you wanted to take from the article (like you appear to do with every bit of information you receive) and, let's be honest, without ever coming to the correct conclusion.

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Let's be specific. Do you maintain that the loss of 51 million people in the UK is likely within 5 years? Tell us what odds that you put on it.

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I have never maintained a decline of that size is likely. More likely, sure, as outlined in my previous reply to you.

My odds of that happening? 500-1.

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Originally Posted by Heisenberg

I don't need to know what he's implying as it states in the article that your link is sourced from:

https://www.gatesnotes.com/

He has said that he thinks that it's first modern pandemic and has called it Pandemic 1 in his article. What the f**k are you taking from it that had got you so concerned?

You have read what you wanted to take from the article (like you appear to do with every bit of information you receive) and, let's be honest, without ever coming to the correct conclusion.

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Presuming you're not on a wind-up: In spite of what he, and evidently you, conveniently choose to forget, swine flu in 2009 was declared a pandemic. Unless you contend that 2009 was too long ago to be adjudged as 'modern'.

At the second time of asking then - can you tell me of someone else, anyone else, who has chosen to define COVID-19 as Pandemic 1?

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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.

I have never maintained a decline of that size is likely. More likely, sure, as outlined in my previous reply to you.

My odds of that happening? 500-1.

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:hehe: I’ll give you 1,000,000 to one on the population decreasing by 51million in the next 5 years. Send me a tenner now and you’ll be quids in if you’re right :thumbup: