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Originally Posted by
Nelsonca61
They have almost given up on getting Trump, Bill Barr is becoming the new target.
It's all part of the same thing, they never thought they would lose, and now all of their malfeasance is badly exposed. Anybody who is against Trump is against the rule of law, no matter what the character of the man is. If this problem is not addressed now, it will happen again to somebody else. People should be careful about what they wish for, and it should be noted that Bernie Sanders was also taken out by the Democrats in the 2016 elections.
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
It's all part of the same thing, they never thought they would lose, and now all of their malfeasance is badly exposed. Anybody who is against Trump is against the rule of law, no matter what the character of the man is. If this problem is not addressed now, it will happen again to somebody else. People should be careful about what they wish for, and it should be noted that Bernie Sanders was also taken out by the Democrats in the 2016 elections.
Anybody......literally anybody who is against Trump is against the rule of law??? Ein volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer
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cyril evans awaydays
Anybody......literally anybody who is against Trump is against the rule of law??? Ein volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer
It's not about Trump, he's just the guy who was in the wrong place at the wrong time in 2016. The next time it will be somebody else, someone who you might even like. Your problem is you have personalised the whole situation around Trump, and it's got feck all to do with him. And for some reason you are giving the bad actors who were attempting to subvert the democratic process a free pass.
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
It's not about Trump, he's just the guy who was in the wrong place at the wrong time in 2016. The next time it will be somebody else, someone who you might even like. Your problem is you have personalised the whole situation around Trump, and it's got feck all to do with him. And for some reason you are giving the bad actors who were attempting to subvert the democratic process a free pass.
Jeez I owe you an apology. I thought all the Trump is playing 4 dimensional chess, three steps ahead genius who should get the Nobel Prizes for Peace and Literature stuff laced with pictures of every rally (unfortunate word) was heartfelt when all the time you would have done the same for any guy or gal who was in the wrong place at the wrong time in 2016.
When it comes to the subversion of the democratic process stuff we can't help going back to the fundamental facts that these bad actors a) publicly announced a reopened investigation on Hilary Clinton's e-mail servers that immediately showed a 4pc reduction for her in the opinion polls and b) went to significant lengths to suppress the fact that they had opened an investigation of the Trump campaign's links to Russia which might have had a counter-balancing effect. This latter point was confirmed (without fanfare on your behalf) by the IG this week.
He also seems to be still investigating unauthorised communications by FBI officers (not sure if these were the same ones texting very pro-Trump messages with each other on official phones) with Rudy Giuliani but I presume these guys were patriots rather than bad actors!
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cyril evans awaydays
Jeez I owe you an apology. I thought all the Trump is playing 4 dimensional chess, three steps ahead genius who should get the Nobel Prizes for Peace and Literature stuff laced with pictures of every rally (unfortunate word) was heartfelt when all the time you would have done the same for any guy or gal who was in the wrong place at the wrong time in 2016.
When it comes to the subversion of the democratic process stuff we can't help going back to the fundamental facts that these bad actors a) publicly announced a reopened investigation on Hilary Clinton's e-mail servers that immediately showed a 4pc reduction for her in the opinion polls and b) went to significant lengths to suppress the fact that they had opened an investigation of the Trump campaign's links to Russia which might have had a counter-balancing effect. This latter point was confirmed (without fanfare on your behalf) by the IG this week.
He also seems to be still investigating unauthorised communications by FBI officers (not sure if these were the same ones texting very pro-Trump messages with each other on official phones) with Rudy Giuliani but I presume these guys were patriots rather than bad actors!
You are partly correct in your first paragraph, because they picked on the wrong guy, somebody who was prepared to fight back.
Regarding the the Hillary emails, their hand was forced. McCabe was witholding Weiner's laptop and the NYPD were threatening to go public if no action was taken, hence the sham investigation and double-quick exoneration. It appears you are either a master of the dark arts of misinformation and half-truths, or you're just not as bright as you think you are. I wonder which one it is? :wink:
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Re: The Donald Trump thread
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
You are partly correct in your first paragraph, because they picked on the wrong guy, somebody who was prepared to fight back.
Regarding the the Hillary emails, their hand was forced. McCabe was witholding Weiner's laptop and the NYPD were threatening to go public if no action was taken, hence the sham investigation and double-quick exoneration. It appears you are either a master of the dark arts of misinformation and half-truths, or you're just not as bright as you think you are. I wonder which one it is? :wink:
You wouldn't have any evidence to support your stated facts would you? I always love your either/ors as well. You know the either you're a housebound self-obsessed narcissistic ****wit or that's not true because you go for a walk occasionally type! ......oops nearly forgot:-)
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cyril evans awaydays
You wouldn't have any evidence to support your stated facts would you? I always love your either/ors as well. You know the either you're a housebound self-obsessed narcissistic ****wit or that's not true because you go for a walk occasionally type! ......oops nearly forgot:-)
Your problem is that you believe everything you hear from the same people who told you the Steele Dossier was verified. If they lied about that, what else did they lie about? Just a guess, but probably everything :-)
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Wales-Bales
Your problem is that you believe everything you hear from the same people who told you the Steele Dossier was verified. If they lied about that, what else did they lie about? Just a guess, but probably everything :-)
Interesting that everyone seems to fall into two camps with you, those who always lie or those who always tell the truth. Let's test the theory with real world examples.
Would you say that if Donald Trump told more than 13k false or misleading claims since he swore the oath of office then he probably lies about everything?
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Impeachment (not removal WB and LoM) comes another step closer
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-us-canada-50787094
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lindsey Graham. "If a Republican president would have done this, let me just say this, it would be a good test for us..."<br>h/t <a href="https://twitter.com/LGsConscience?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@LGsConscience</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/barubin?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@barubin</a> <a href="https://t.co/NfJGobgvvL">pic.twitter.com/NfJGobgvvL</a></p>— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) <a href="https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/1205634545640448001?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 13, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Re: The Donald Trump thread
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Heisenberg
Is it true that Democrats are defecting to the Republican Party because of impeachment? :wave:
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Graham invites Giuliani to testify about recent Ukraine trip :yikes:
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...t-ukraine-trip
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Re: The Donald Trump thread
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Geez the Chuckle Brothers have reformed. I will try to watch that charade!
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Nelsonca61
And nothings going on according to cyril :shrug:
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Originally Posted by
Nelsonca61
They were informed nearly two years ago and did nothing. It looks like the IG report has forced their hand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6Qbfu3-4aE
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Trump has successfully played the "I am the victim" approach and will get away with it. The Republican Senate will find him "not guilty" of course and all his red neck supporters across the country will be ecstatic; indeed it could even enhance his position with the great Republican American voters. I guess the old adage that you get the leaders you deserve comes to mind.
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Gofer Blue
Trump has successfully played the "I am the victim" approach and will get away with it. The Republican Senate will find him "not guilty" of course and all his red neck supporters across the country will be ecstatic; indeed it could even enhance his position with the great Republican American voters. I guess the old adage that you get the leaders you deserve comes to mind.
He wasn't supposed to get past the gatekeepers, but he's no Corbyn and in this case being a gobby shite helped him, as nobody else would have passed go.
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lardy
I bet he's shaking in his boots!
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The Orange Blimp has spent three years draining the middle class. No wall, nobody locked up, no indictments.
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
The Orange Blimp has spent three years draining the middle class. No wall, nobody locked up, no indictments.
You do him a disservice Organ. There is a long list of his appointed campaigners, lawyers, confidants and advisers who have been indicted, prosecuted, sentenced and imprisoned. Just nobody outside his group of "only the best selected" people to reach the first steps on that journey.
Still with a supine Attorney General and his pet poodle on watch some can live in hope I suppose!
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Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
You do him a disservice Organ. There is a long list of his appointed campaigners, lawyers, confidants and advisers who have been indicted, prosecuted, sentenced and imprisoned. Just nobody outside his group of "only the best selected" people to reach the first steps on that journey.
Still with a supine Attorney General and his pet poodle on watch some can live in hope I suppose!
Is that a vote of confidence for the illegal surveillance of innocent people for political purposes?
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Wales-Bales
Is that a vote of confidence for the illegal surveillance of innocent people for political purposes?
More a critique of the people who have posted on here for an epoch quoting that Obama/Clinton/Lynch/Brennan/Podesta/Abedien/Awan/Page/Ohr (x2)/multiple FBI are about to be stormed away to Guantanamo Bay on criminal charges brought by Sessions/Rodgers/Mueller(!)/Horowitz/Huber/Little Rock FBI/South New York DA Office/Barr/Durham.
In that epoch the only thing that has happened to date is a tribe of people close to Donald Trump have been convicted and jailed. Would you agree on the basis of the facts to date?
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cyril evans awaydays
More a critique of the people who have posted on here for an epoch quoting that Obama/Clinton/Lynch/Brennan/Podesta/Abedien/Awan/Page/Ohr (x2)/multiple FBI are about to be stormed away to Guantanamo Bay on criminal charges brought by Sessions/Rodgers/Mueller(!)/Horowitz/Huber/Little Rock FBI/South New York DA Office/Barr/Durham.
In that epoch the only thing that has happened to date is a tribe of people close to Donald Trump have been convicted and jailed. Would you agree on the basis of the facts to date?
No.
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Wales-Bales
No.
Fair enough. Not very often we get an unequivocal statement from you.
So based on the fact that Obama/Clinton/Lynch/Brennan/Podesta/Abedien/Awan/Page/Ohr (x2)/multiple FBI haven't to date been stormed away to Guantanamo Bay on criminal charges brought by Sessions/Rodgers/Mueller(!)/Horowitz/Huber/Little Rock FBI/South New York DA Office/Barr/Durham.
And to date it is only a tribe of people close to Donald Trump have been convicted and jailed. What factual evidence do you have to disagree on the basis of the facts to date?
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cyril evans awaydays
Fair enough. Not very often we get an unequivocal statement from you.
So based on the fact that Obama/Clinton/Lynch/Brennan/Podesta/Abedien/Awan/Page/Ohr (x2)/multiple FBI haven't to date been stormed away to Guantanamo Bay on criminal charges brought by Sessions/Rodgers/Mueller(!)/Horowitz/Huber/Little Rock FBI/South New York DA Office/Barr/Durham.
And to date it is only a tribe of people close to Donald Trump have been convicted and jailed. What factual evidence do you have to disagree on the basis of the facts to date?
I don't know how you can still support an organisation that thought manipulating the secret FISA court to spy on innocent political opponents was a good idea. I think you would have enjoyed life in the old Soviet Russia/East Germany where people snitched on their neighbors.
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Wales-Bales
I don't know how you can still support an organisation that thought manipulating the secret FISA court to spy on innocent political opponents was a good idea. I think you would have enjoyed life in the old Soviet Russia/East Germany where people snitched on their neighbors.
What evidence do you have that I support any organisation? I simply asked the King of fact to contradict that to date a load of people close to Trump are criminals and many more people who you have smeared to date aren't. You said on the basis of the facts to date that you disagreed. I just want to understand on what basis.
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cyril evans awaydays
What evidence do you have that I support any organisation?
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
:hehe:
Well done on s******ing at the first sentence. Now try the factual substance of the rest of the conversation where you seem impotent in being able to contradict the facts that to date the only people having any criminal indictment are those close to Trump and to date you can't point to the numerous people you have unfairly prostituted on this Board as about to get their collar's felt as being anywhere near the Justice system.
Given that you are a few steps ahead of the game and even then even your follower can just about handle the facts above. What can you give LoM to keep him worshipping false idols?
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
It's almost poetic ,so anyway, wheres this impeachment?
It's here. Your wait is over.
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lardy
It's here. Your wait is over.
I bet he'd rather be impeached than get caught fraudulently abusing the secret FISA court to illegally spy on his political opponents.
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lardy
It's here. Your wait is over.
I wonder if he'll even acknowledge it. Strange, since he's used the term 'impeachment' more than any other poster.
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Heisenberg
I wonder if he'll even acknowledge it. Strange, since he's used the term 'impeachment' more than any other poster.
Let's not hold our breath.
In the mean time, the Do Nothing Dems have been reading Trump's 4d chess book and look to be withholding the articles until they can guarantee a fair trial. Trump's plan was not to have a fair trial to allow him to get off easily.
He doesn't seem happy about being outsmarted.
https://www.politico.com/amp/news/20...achment-087814
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lardy
Let's not hold our breath.
In the mean time, the Do Nothing Dems have been reading Trump's 4d chess book and look to be withholding the articles until they can guarantee a fair trial. Trump's plan was not to have a fair trial to allow him to get off easily.
He doesn't seem happy about being outsmarted.
https://www.politico.com/amp/news/20...achment-087814
The fake Impeachment is all about trying to get Mueller grand jury material from the courts, some of which was obtained by defrauding the FISA court to spy on the Trump campaign.
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Wales-Bales
The fake Impeachment is all about trying to get Mueller grand jury material from the courts, some of which was obtained by defrauding the FISA court to spy on the Trump campaign.
I know you have had a tough week but let's get through your latest cry for help! Might take a few steps though!
Fake Impeachment.. Just as real as the last one you have spent applauding.
It's all about trying to get Mueller Grand Jury material from the Courts.....let's pause there.
Setting aside the fact that you have been doing the conspiracy thang! When his brief got filleted asking for material outside her case why do you think impeachment is about some kind of fishing expedition?
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Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
I know you have had a tough week but let's get through your latest cry for help! Might take a few steps though!
Fake Impeachment.. Just as real as the last one you have spent applauding.
It's all about trying to get Mueller Grand Jury material from the Courts.....let's pause there.
Setting aside the fact that you have been doing the conspiracy thang! When his brief got filleted asking for material outside her case why do you think impeachment is about some kind of fishing expedition?
There is already a case in the court system seeking access to the Mueller grand jury testimony. Let's see if the Dems now say that they need this information to prepare for a Senate impeachment trial :sherlock:
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US Attorney John Durham goes after CIA Director Brennan's communication records..
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/19/u...ennan-cia.html
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Originally Posted by
lardy
Let's not hold our breath.
In the mean time, the Do Nothing Dems have been reading Trump's 4d chess book and look to be withholding the articles until they can guarantee a fair trial. Trump's plan was not to have a fair trial to allow him to get off easily.
He doesn't seem happy about being outsmarted.
https://www.politico.com/amp/news/20...achment-087814
Yep, life on mars is avoiding Trump's impeachment like the plague.
As for your link - good work from Pelosi for a change. I'm actually impressed.